Just How do you Kill Demodex Mites ?

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Demodex mites and rosacea seem to be a popular, if not somewhat controversial pairing.Even though there is no proven link between rosacea symptoms and the presence of demodex mites, many rosacea sufferers are interested in eliminating demodex mites to see if their rosacea symptoms improve.

So just how can you kill them ? Demodex mites are tiny, and live naturally in everyone’s skin, but sometimes in abundance with rosacea papules and pustules. They are quite difficult to kill.

Read on if you’d like to know more about how to elminate demodex mites.

First of all, why would you want to eliminate them ?

There may be some new evidence that proteins from a bacteria that can be isolated from demodex mites cause an immune reaction in rosacea sufferers. I’m still not a believer in the involvement of these critters in the cause of rosacea.

Just in case more evidence is found in the future, though, demodex mites are worth further understanding. Indeed demodex mites might be proven to not be involved in the pathogenesis or rosacea.

Mites and Faeces

Some recent publicity related to demodex mites conjured some impressive images of what demodex mites look like and might be doing in your skin. These comments lead to lots of headlines and articles that might confuse you even more about the role of demodex in rosacea. Here are some quotes attributed to Dr. Kavanagh, one of the few researchers making actual progress in this direction.

Rosacea may be caused by mite faeces in your pores

15:57 30 August 2012 by Debora MacKenzie

Kevin Kavanagh of the National University of Ireland, in Maynooth, now thinks he has discovered the cause – and it isn’t for the faint-hearted.

Tiny mites – eight-legged arachnids related to spiders – live in the pores of our facial skin. They are particularly fond of the hair follicles of eyebrows and eyelashes, and the oily pores most common on the nose, forehead and cheeks. Called Demodex, the mites eat sebum, or facial oil, and colonise your face at puberty.

They crawl about your face in the dark to mate, then crawl back into pores to lay their eggs and die. Healthy adults have around one or two mites per square centimetre of facial skin. People with rosacea, however, can have 10 times as many, says Kavanagh. Research suggests that the stress that causes flare-ups of rosacea changes the chemicals in sebum, making it better food for mites.

Rosacea often improves with antibacterial drugs that don’t affect the mites, such as tetracyclines. Kavanagh thinks this is because rosacea is caused by a reaction to bacteria in the mite’s faeces.

Demodex does not have an anus and therefore cannot get rid of its faeces. “Their abdomen just gets bigger and bigger, and when they die and decompose they release their faeces all at once in the pore,” says Kavanagh. When the mites are numerous, he believes that the material is enough to trigger an immune reaction, inflammation and tissue damage.

Killing Demodex Invitro (in the test tube)

We know from the paper In vitro and in vivo killing of ocular Demodex by tea tree oil, that various oils and solutions can kill demodex mites quite quickly in the test tube.

Solution Demodex Kill Time
100% alcohol 4 minutes
50% tea tree oil15 minutes
100% tea tree oil4 minutes
100% carraway oil4 minutes
100% dill weed oil14 minutes

Note that carraway oil and dill weed oil are toxic to the eye.

Studies have also confirmed that ether, xylol, benzene, Danish (compound polysulfide ointment) ointment can kill demodex in a few minutes.

Note that demodex mites have a life cycle of 14-18 days.

Ivermectin

Ivermectin is used in dermatology against some parasitic infestations in humans. The drug is used in the treatment of patients with different forms of scabies, human body lice, head lice, demodecicosis, et. al. Published literature includes a case study of one patient who was treated with topical permethrin and oral Ivermectin. In another case report of one patient, the papules and pustules of rosacea were difficult to treat until oral ivermectin was included in the treatment regime.

Several rosacea sufferers on the rosacea-support email group report success in treating their rosacea with Ivermectin, but the benefits were only short lived.

Ivermectin (Stromectol, Mectizan, Ivomec, Oramec, Cardomec) has been patented as a treatment for rosacea.

I would advise extreme caution should you consider a 0.5% Topical Ivermectin prescription like Sklice, which is only for the scalp and hair.

Galderma has recently started selling Soolantra, a 1% Ivermectin Cream for the treatment of the papules and pustules of rosacea. Soolantra is showing promising results as a mainstay treatment for rosacea.

Tea Tree Oil

Tea Tree Oil (TTO) is sourced from the Melaluca tree which is native to Eastern Australia. Tea Tree Oil has been shown to kill demodex mites in as little as 4 minutes. External application of undiluted tea tree oil and/or at inappropriate high doses has been associated with toxicity, including death, in cats and other animals.

There is so much interest in the properties of tea tree oil that a research group has been created within the School of Biomedical, Biomolecular and Chemical Sciences at The University of Western Australia.

In a recent study, TTO was used to eliminate demodex mites living in the eyelashes of ocular rosacea sufferers. Study participants were given weekly lid scrubs with 50% tea tree oil and a daily lid scrub with a tea tree shampoo. After six weeks all 6 participants showed improvement in conjuctival irritation and inflammation.

TTO is not soluble in water, but is soluble in alcohol, but sadly that would be unsuitable for use around the eye. Tea Tree Oil can be diluted 50% in Macadamia nut oil for use around the eyes. Lid scrubs with 50% Tea Tree Oil did produce irritation in the participants but the effect was found to be minimised if care was used to avoid spilling it into the eye.

Full strength tea tree oil should never be used anywhere on the face.

Kwellada/Elimite (Permethrin)

Back in 2000, Annette Anderson advocated using Permethrin 5% on the face to eliminate the mites. Permethrin was originally used to treat scabies. She warned that getting it in your eyes burns terribly and that the instructions mention that you should not use it on your face. A few members of rosacea-support had bad reactions to using permethrin on their face, so use Permethrin with extreme care. In the U.S., 5% Permethrin (Elimite Cream) is only available by prescription.

If you are considering Permethrin in any form it would be wise to consider Dr. Linda Sy’s advice to “solicit the cooperation and supervision of their respective dermatologists, get a KOH skin scraping to establish the presence of florid demodex population … Participants try the Permethrin on a small area of face first, to determine if any immediate severe problem exists”.

Seabuckthorn Oil

Despite claims on various internet sites, I have not been able to find any published evidence that Seabuckthorn oil kills demodex mites. If you know of some evidence, please post in the comments below. In the meantime, please disregard any claims that you find that Seabuckthorn Oil kills demodex mites.

A natural approach

For those interested in a more natural approach to treating rosacea including using Olive Leaf Extract and Tea Tree Oil see Rachelle’s Alternative Treatments for Demodex Mites.

Selenium Sufide

Note that despite some media coverage relating to Selenium Sufide (the active ingredient in Selsun shampoo);

Your Health:

The active ingredient in the shampoo, selenium sulfide, might help control the Demodex skin mite population that triggers the inflammation associated with rosacea. People use the shampoo to wash their faces gently.

(Joe Graedon is a pharmacologist, and Dr. Teresa Graedon is a medical anthropologist and nutrition expert.)

Selenium Sulfide has not been found to kill demodex mites.

Over to You

Have you tried any treatments to eliminate demodex mites ? Did you have a bad reaction them ? any suceess ? Feel free to leave a comment below.

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  1. Mike Marca says:

    I just had my first major breakout since I started using both Pro-Tech-Skin and Pine Pitch Salve. I used both alcohol soakings and rife therapy to put it down. Sometimes I just need to kill the mites instead of moving them out. I lasted two months without a breakout. I will start it up again. Hopefully it last for another two months. Mike

  2. Della Sacks says:

    Mike – I posted the following 2 days ago :

    Bought this 3 days ago with the moisturizer from same company and shampoo. Wow. I have had demodex for at least two years and as a person who never had a blemish on her English skin, it was devastating. I had managed to control it, but as soon as I put it on my face, the mites ran for the hills. This morning, after only one day of treatment, my skin seems clear. What a response. The mites had even invaded my lips and the inside soft tissue of the mouth. This morning, there is a huge improvement. Even the rosacea, which was minor, is significantly less – almost gone. As I said, I did have this under control (so I thought), so my face was was relatively clear, but I now realize how many of these blighters were hiding. I had them in the eyelashes, but again I had controlled the situation but not cured it. As soon as I put the face cleanser on, they disappeared within seconds. I know that this is not the end of them and I know about the cycle, but if I use this everyday, at least my skin is clear and I know they are being killed in the hair follicles. They did get into my hair and I started using TTO with coconut oil which stopped the itching. I will wash my hair again today with the shampoo and I am confident it will take care of the situation. I will report back soon to report my findings. The three products are Demodocia face wash, face cream, and hair shampoo. Worth every penny.

    This morning after using it 2x a day, this is the third day, I cannor see any mites on my face, rosacea is almost clear, and the ones inside my mouth are gone. These products come with a guarantee so money back after three months. The face wash tends to turn the skin red, but who cares. This is the best I have come across. I will do it for 90 days and if my face is clear after that period, I will assume they are gone. I like the moisturizer, so I will use it in the future. They say it works, I am thrilled with the results. The hair shampoo has stopped the itching and i also thought they had gone to the back of my neck. I could feel these bumps. All gone. They are most likely back in the hair follicles, but that’s okay as they die there and cannot come out at night to proliferate. Makes sense to me I actually paid $82 on Amazon and received it the next day. That includes tax and I got free shipping. The Umgex costs about $480 Australian dollars Their dollar is worth about 70 cents. I was not willing to invest that much so tried the Domodocia. It is cheaper and it works. Try it. It clears the face, hair and neck – or anywhere you put it. Good luck and let me know how you do. Della

    • Christine says:

      hi I read your comment. But I’m not sure what products you are using could you please send me a list of all your products you’re using that you mentioned in your post that seem to really help. Thank you Christine

    • Stephanie says:

      What were your results of your 90-day treatment plan with Domodocia?

  3. Mike Marca says:

    Della, your Demodocia contains Sea Buckthorn oil and TTO. I have tried both of these, but thanks for the infro. Mike

    • Della says:

      Yes I know but as of this morning I don’t have one mite on my face or in my mouth. Last night I was able to literally pick them off the side of my mouth while they tried to escape. Today my skin is as clear as it was two years ago. At this point I don’t care what’s in it , I will use it. I did react to tto but it was because I used it full strength. I have tried the other stuff too, but never In This format and strength. Whatever else is in it, it is working. Now my head is not itching and I noticed less hair fallout. I can only tell you my experience, what I experience last night with my mouth was proves to me that this is actually killing the suckers. I have had success with several products but only to control them. But reasonntells me this is different. Maybe it is a stronger control, but if there is no other breakout in 90 days the cycle is broken. I have nothing to lose. Good luck.

      • Monikita says:

        Della, I cannot find that Demodocia products anywhere.. can you please tell me where you bought it?

  4. Monikita says:

    Just found on Amazon.com. Is it possible to find it somewhere in uk? :/

  5. Della Sacks says:

    I did some research and it seems it is only on Amazon. This is what I found about purchasing.

    Shopping on Amazon.com from United Kingdom. … You can get almost anything on Amazon.com and ship it to United Kingdom through Borderlinx. You can buy from the USA on Amazon.com: dvds, books, the kindle, toys, headphones or clothing, jewelry and kitchenware. And with Borderlinx you can ship it to United Kingdom.

    Hope this helps

  6. Anthony says:

    Hey Thanks for this support group and info on how to kill these things
    Im, in Australia and very comforted knowing there is help out there
    I have suffered since 2002
    Thanks to this forum and community i finally realize what has been causing my skin conditions

    Flowers of Sulfur internally and externally do help dry the skin buts still really itchy
    Dettol Alcohol and the Dettol original soap bars you can find on eBay certainly calm the skin

    If its not too much trouble can some one lead me to a good product that will kill them for good

    Thanks

    • JIMR says:

      This worked for me. I purchased Ivermectin that they use for horses but as many have posted it has no real bad side effect and other countries prescribe it, and it is easy to measure out the correct dose. Make sure you buy the ones others have recommended and don’t have other stuff in the paste besides Ivermectin. They make gel caps that people put essential oils in to take orally and they worked great to put a 250 pound dose in, then put the other side of the capsule on and take orally. My first dose I took by putting paste on back of tongue and it has a terrible flavor so the gel caps worked great. At the same time I also started the mix of Butt-paste, Nu-stock, and TeaTree oil and a few other oils (google it). My face blew up!! I mean the worst outbreak I have ever had, it was killing the mites. The Butt Paste mix really dries the skin so I would only do it every 2 or 3 days then in between the Pro-Tec, or Pine-tree suave and/or a TeaTree oil coconut mix. I waited 4 days and took another dose of Ivermectin, then same suave routine. My neck and chest then broke out which has never happened, the mites that were still alive were migrating away from my face, so now I was putting the sauve mixes on my lower neck and chest and face, they moved even lower and to my sides. With the Ivermectin I did 1st dose, waited 4 days 2nd dose, waited 4 days 3rd dose, waited 7 days 4th dose, waited another 7 days 5th dose. I spaced the doses out to try and kill any eggs that hatched, the timing is not real scientific, I may look more into the life cycle and timing, but it seems to work. My face is the best it has been in 8 years after just 4 weeks. I still have some pustules on my chest, sides and stomach area, and a few minor ones on my face but I think I’m winning the battle. Oh, I also used TeeTea OIl shampoo and the sulfur soap when showering and washed my sheets every other day, and since my Gym had a Dry sauna I used that too since I was there for the possibility that sweating out and the heat may also help. So I kinda did an all out Nuke, but I think it was the Ivermectin and the Butt-paste/Nu-stock combo that did most of the work. So an update, my face is still clear a few little pimples not even sure they are mites, one weird thing all the little black heads on my nose are gone! Not sure but maybe the mites lived there, I was pinching them out but have always had them no matter what. Now I’m just using tea tree oil shampoo, and every once in a while a mix of tea tree oil and coconut oil to keep face moist, and a suave mix I found on another site. I started this treatment 4 weeks ago and the mites were gone on my face and chest after 2 weeks, and the skin on my face feels like new. Just a warning you may want to stay home the first week, my face blew up after the Ivermectin and using the paste mix, My face was crazy ugly with pustules (dead mites in my pores) worst it had ever been.

      • annerainbow says:

        Hi I’m so glad for you that your skin is great now! A small note of caution with ivermectin though, I’m a veterinarian and have used it extensively to treat demodex in dogs. Overdosing can have SEVERE outcomes. It can cross the blood brain barrier and result in seizures and blindness. Please use caution with the dosing as it is usually in micrograms not milligrams which is confusing if you don’t deal with drug dosing regularly.

        • JIMR says:

          Thanks for the information. Why is it not available in the USA for human use yet. It is used in other counties to treat dermodex in people with great results, just like I had. Hopefully it will be coming soon.

          • annerainbow says:

            Is there any country it has been licensed for internal use? I’d love to know details if you have researched this. I think there is a topical product now available in Australia, but it’s not as effective topically in animals, so I’m not sure how it would go in humans. I think any drug that may have some brain interaction is very very costly and risky to license because of the possibility of psychiatric issues. There is an amazing drug for arthritis that we use all the time (pentosan polysulfate) but it will apparently never be released for humans because it may cause a slightly increased risk of suicide in people with a prior history of depression. :/…. Again tho, I’m so glad your skin is good now!

          • JIMR says:

            annerrainbow look at this. It is also used orally for scabies http://www.webmd.com/drugs/drugreview-1122-ivermectin-oral.aspx?drugid=1122&drugname=ivermectin-oral

            Just not in the USA yet, that I know of

          • JIMR says:

            Another site on script for human use
            https://www.drugs.com/pro/ivermectin-tablets.html

          • JIMR says:

            annerainbow – Soolantra® (ivermectin) Cream, 1%, Now Approved. How much does Soolantra cost?
            Soolantra is a topical medication used to treat lesions caused by rosacea. One 30-gram tube of Soolantra cream costs around $330. If your insurance doesn’t cover most of this cost, try using our Soolantra coupons or discount card to reduce the cash price of Soolantra by as much as 75%. Your Derm can write a script for it now.

      • bnrjmz says:

        I hope this works. My condition has gotten worse during the last year. I’ve seen a dermatologist and have been prescribed antibiotics and soolantra. I’ve only taken soolantra for about a week now so I suppose results remain to be seen. I just spent a lot of $ on amazon. I purchased the oral ivermectin, permethrin cream, butt paste, nu-stock, tea tree oil and Demodocia face wash, cream and shampoo. Also considering broad band light. I don’t typically run into problems I can’t solve. My condition didn’t get this bad until a woman ripped my heart from my chest and I can’t help but conclude that it is tied into stress and mental disposition. Correlation or causation? Maybe just coincidental. I also did a 12 week cycle of testosterone that probably didn’t help. I’ve been off around 8 months. From what I understand it takes about 12 to stabilize. Assuming any of these methods ended up working… I don’t know whether I would be capable of pin pointing which did the trick. I appreciate the plethora of knowledge disseminated here. Thank you all for paying it forward. If and when I find success; I shall do the same…(assuming I can identify the specific remedy).

      • JIMR says:

        If you read my above post I would like to just say to try the Ivermectin all by itself first. While all the other stuff I used might work to some degree, I’m certain now at least for me that it was the Ivermctin that killed the Dermodex mites and me having clear skin again. Read below another items I have posted. In August I posted about another site that a lady there had more detailed info on the doses for Ivermectin and how many times to take it. My above experiment was close and was just a guess from what I knew then, but this lady’s post makes it clearer on how Ivermectrin works to kill the Dermodex mite. My face is still clear after 6 months. Hope this helps you to having clear skin again too!!

  7. JIMR says:

    I have used Ivermectin ( horse paste) put in to gel caps and it has worked. Others have used the powder form and mixed with a neutral cream as a topical with good results too. I just used gel caps, they hold enough for a 230 pound man. My skin is the best it has been in 8 years, it kinda feels weird having normal smooth skin again with no pustules.

    • JIMR says:

      Oh, I forgot to mention the best part! The cost is only $7, and that is for 4 doses, that I spread out to kill any of the hatching mite eggs.

      • Della says:

        Just so people know, Ivermectin is covered by Medicare. I had to fight a little with the pharmacy, but when they actually placed the special order, I got it for $90. I have Kaiser and went to their pharmacy.

  8. Sunshine says:

    Hi All, I’ve been using the protech overnight now for about 30 days. At first I thought it was doing something but as time has gone on its back to the usual papules and pustules. I have had a very stressful time as unfortunately my father passed away so expect this hasn’t helped. I am not trying anything else with it at the moment as wanted to see the effect on its own. It has improved the condition of my skin so cover up goes on much better without lots of dry flaky bits. I’m going to carry on for now. I’m reluctant to use many other things suggested as I had a bad allergic reaction to a gel I expected to be good, and I did test it for a few days before use. It was the Dr organics snail gel that was supposed to be soothing on skin but not in my case. Mum and husband who don’t have rosacea used after me with no problem. It smelled heavy on lemongrass so maybe it was that . It left my skin scarred with tiny dots like orange peel and burned like mad. Strangely enough my nose wasn’t really affected or scarred. I’ve had rosacea mainly on my nose( type 2) for about 4 years. Had digestive issues and stress at the time. It usually gets a bit better I the summer (I’m in England) but not much improvement yet this year. I get by using cover up but it’s blooming painful with those blisters on the end of my nose. Keep posting how you are getting on as it’s very informative. Good luck all. Sunshine.

    • I’ve had these for 12 years but only recently found out what they really are.

      IMHO, the tiny dots that burned is the dying mites. Its something that happens when any chemical that they don’t like is applied to their area and soaks into the skin/flesh where they’re at.
      They’ll release some sort of “venom” as another sufferer calls it. I’ve seen it, it’s amber colored and sticky. It will literary dribble out of the pores these beasts are in. Plus when their dying whether from chemicals or their life cycle is over they’ll decompose in your pores.
      Or flesh if you’ve picked and dug at yourself log enough to not have many pores where they’re at!.As I have BTW. And they don’t excrete wastes,nope it all goes into our flesh along with their recomposing bodies. So sad that doctors just won’t take this seriously!.
      I’m afraid they’re going to think I’m crazy. “like yeah right lady,sure ya have tiny spider like mites eating your skin cells and oils while living in and reproducing in pores!”.

      One thing besides hydrogen peroxide that kills them is neosporin, they seriously HATE neosporin ointment. Plus I keep these areas coated in either talcum powder or medicated powder. Do not put medicated powder on raw flesh, even a raw bump it’ll burn so,so badly! They want moisture so the powder dries them out after I assault them with the neosporin. I just put the powder container above the area and coat it completely.

      • Carolyn Ladd says:

        Ceridwen, I was reading an older post of yours and wonder what happens when these mites die off in your pores and hair follicles? Do they just stay there and harden and you have to dig them out? And, what about the hair follicles in your scalp? Does that mean your hair has no chance if regrowing? If you have had experience with this I would appreciate knowing your experience. Thanks much!

  9. Mike Marca says:

    The Pro-Tech-Skin and the Pine Pitch Salve is still working for me. It works for awhile (about 2 months) until I get a breakout somewhere on my face (usually when my rosacea flares up a lot). I then use alcohol soakings and rife therapy to put down the breakout. After that I start all over again with the Pro-tech-Skin and Pine Pitch Salve. It seems to be working. Mike

  10. JIMR says:

    Just and update on my use of Ivermectin, I noticed a few small pustules starting up on my right cheek which has always been the worst area after my forehead. I had been using tee tree oil with coconut oil every other night after I did the Ivermectin treatment so I did every night but they did not go away, again these were very small and before I would have thought nothing of it since my face was usually way worse for the past 10 years. So on 6/4 I took another dose of Ivermectin, and poof no more pustules, no big out break like the first time, I’m assuming the tee tree oil was killin most but not all the mites so a few were spreading and laying eggs then when they died the pustules formed. My face is clear and no redness, no pustules or flaky skin.

    Again this is not a FDA approved treatment for us humans yet. I did my research and decided it was safe for me, but you can now buy by script a Ivermectin topical cream for $300 for a 30 day supply.

  11. Mike Marca says:

    Pro-Tech-Skin and Pine Pitch Salve is still working for me. They are not gone, just subdued to where I rarely feel them with few outbreaks. I do believe their numbers are down. My face is looking good. Mike

  12. Pooh says:

    I know this is an older post but I’m hoping this info can reach at least one person to whom it may help. I’ve have these mind torchering bugs for 7 months now 4 months past what I originally read it would take to get rid of them. Anyway I learned a few tips I haven’t read before that has seemed to help me. I had them horrible in my feet from showering and walking bare footed Which I have learned to do neither. I wear plastic shoes in the shower and shoes right until I step into bed. Anyways I wanted to exfoliate the dead skin from my feet and did a “Babtfoot” treatment (It’s an acid foot sock sock you wear for 30 mins+ and it removes the dead skin in a big sheet after a few weeks.) I also learned it kills the bugs deep within your feet. I did 2 a week apart now thinking it would have an effect on the bugs but much to my surprise I’ve have 1% of the trouble I was having before. I think it killed a large part of the population and possible the queen (at least I’m preying for that) I’ve also learned that I pure acetone will desolve the live and dead ones that cling under your nails. Hope this helps. By the way I’ve rubbed paper towel socked acetone on my legs when the itching got unbearable and it help but dryer out my skin. A little price for relief in my book. Good luck God Bless

  13. Mike Marca says:

    I have learned two ways to help kill or get rid of “stubborn” mites in small areas. One way is to thickly spread Pro-Tech- Skin every hour onto the area. After a while they will become lesser or gone. If this doesn’t work get a hot spoon (not too hot or you will have a burn), and touch the area. I will heat the end of the spoon in the stove flame for a few seconds. This helps me when nothing else does. Mike

  14. Simone Lariviere says:

    Hello everyone! I bought a Himalayan salt “soap bar” which is just a hunk of it shaped like soap to combat the demodex.

    My method has been to shave my face (even tho I’m female) to remove dead skin then wet the bar on one end and gently rub on my face. (*be careful* as the bar can have sharp spots so I smoothed one side by wetting and rubbing the scratchy part till smooth.)

    It kind of tingles (which I’m assuming is the demodex reacting to the salt) while it’s wet. I do it for a couple of minutes, rewetting the bar frequently as I do it. I let it dry and go to bed. You will have white patches of salt particles but who cares, you’re going to bed?? Lol

    My giant, saucer pores are almost invisible! There are some spots where I can’t even SEE pores anymore! Like the porcelain skinned people I’ve been jealous of for 35 years!!

    I’ve been doing this for about 2 months and I believe I’m well on my way to clear skin. It has never looked better! The gross blackheads are pretty much gone from the sides of my nose.

    I also noticed that it makes several layers of dead skin flake off in spots revealing softer skin underneath.

    I also took someone else on here’s advice and got the Pro tech beeswax stuff (I actually got that first) and use it occasionally in conjunction with the himalayan salt. Mostly using the salt tho.
    The salt bar was $8 so extremely cost effective.

    Sorry for the rambling lol I hope I’ve contributed something worthwhile to the conversation 🙂

    Simone

  15. Mike Marca says:

    Be shure to use Neosporin afterwards if you do decide to do the hot spoon thing. Mike

  16. Mike Marca says:

    I have one more tip that may help someone. For eyebrow mites I use clean plumbers abrasive cloth to remove the scale left on my eyebrows in the morning. Afterwards I apply Neosporin. I can’t imagine what my eyebrows would look like otherwise. Mike

    • Vladimir says:

      Hello, Mike. How is it going? And did you have itching? And know that you had problem with your eyebrows. I am loosing eyebrows. Do you know how to stop it? And where i can buy Pine Pitch Salve? Did you kill your mites?

  17. Mike Marca says:

    Yes, I have itching at times on my eyebrows by the demodex mites. When I get up in the mornings I take off the scale that the mites make on my eyebrows with clean abrasive plumber’s cloth, and use Neosporin. This scale is getting lesser as the mite levels go down. At night I use Pro-Tech- Skin. I buy it on ebay. During the day I use Pine Pitch Salve. I also buy this on ebay. If I have a major breakout of mite activity I use rife therapy, alcohol soakings, and sometimes a hot spoon onto the area (use Neosporin afterwards). You are going to loose some eyebrows from the mites. I also use an eyebrow pencil (actually liquid) to put color back into my eyebrows. My face looks normal in spite of my Rosacea and Demodex disorder. Mike

  18. Mike Marca says:

    Yes, I still have eyebrow loss. These mites are a force to be reckoned with. For the most my face looks normal now, but I do have times where it does show. I am thankful that I have taken care of them this good now. Even rife therapy is not a cure for all. Sometimes it works and sometimes it does not. This is something that I must learn to live with, unless the Lord decides to heal me. It is His will and not mine. There is nothing out there that will kill these mites for good. There are some dermatologists out there that think it is all in our heads, the bitting and everything! They will even tell you that you are somewhat crazy and need to go to a psychologist. One thing that does definitely kill the mites is the spoon thing, but even in that there is a price to pay. You can end up with a burn.
    Two weeks ago I used a heated spoon on an area where nothing else worked. I was surprised to see what was underneath the skin. I had a channel dug by the mites almost one half inch long and 3/16 inch wide. With Neosporin it took about 5 days to heal up the area. Perhaps it was a baby factory for the mites. After the area was exposed there was a lot of mite activity for at least a day around the area. I do not have a cure, but I do have a maintenance plan. Mike

    • joao370 says:

      Hello , once again Mike. You are wright this mites are bacteria that are long ago betwenn us and will not die they are the famaly of the archaea and can live in hot springs vulcans and or nuclear facilyty or even in the artic land. So they can adapt to anything.

      The key is low there numbers but you must heal your gut , leaky gut and especialy your small intestine.

      The key is to heal SIBO , you have SIBO and withouth adressing SIBO , this creatures , will never leave this secondary side effects the rosacea. I have been two times clear it least two months but without adressing sibo , the mites archedea will always come back .

      The hard thing is to now our sibo root cause you must FIX the SIBO .

      Take care MIKE

  19. Mike Marca says:

    Actually, the exposed channel was about 3/8 long and 1/8 wide. I never knew that it was there, until I opened it up with the heated spoon. Since it was completely under the skin topical treatments would not penetrate to the area. I imagine that rife therapy killed some of the mites and mite eggs, but not enough to make a significant difference. Mike

    • Della says:

      Hi Mike, Glad to hear that you are getting things under control. Prayer does help.
      I have had tremendous success with various products because I have realized that we have to attack the eggs before they hatch. I came to realize this when I thought back to the time when I first saw little white rings on my forehead when looking in my 10x magnifying mirror that I use for my makeup application. At that point I did not have outbreaks, but these rings would disappear and new ones would appear. Never knew what they were and never thought much about it until way after when the adults started to infest my skin. As I got further into trying to eradicate them, learning about the 14 day egg cycles, realizing that eggs are laid every night on my forehead, not attacking the eggs but mopping up the damage after the adults died and rotted in my skin which caused the infections, I suddenly realized I am not doing this the right way. I have to get those eggs before they hatch. Once we have an outbreak, it is too late. At this point I remembered seeing these small white circles on my forehead and realized these were the eggs, this is where it begins. If we do not get eggs, we cannot win. I started looking in that mirror every morning for the telltale signs. I starting attacking these rings, with various creams and even squeezed them to death with tweezers, and slowly the infestation started to go away. I have not had any outbreaks in quite a while and I am almost afraid to think that I am winning the battle. My main areas were nostrils, inside the mouth, corners of lips, eye lashes and brows. All those placed where they could hide. I do not work, so I have the time to research the heck out of these. Have tried several things, some worked, some did not. As you know the Nu-Stock worked well as it did kill the eggs, but it is messy. I used the demodocia products, and they helped me get it under control as it does kill the eggs. These products are for long term use, this will not go away overnight. It needs dedication 24 hours a day. While using Deodocia mite products, my research on a lot of good sites, made me realize you do not catch these from others. It is an immune system problem, in my case through taking too many antibiotics and pain killers after a nasty accident. I do not use clean sheets every day, once a week I change them, my husband and I use the same pillows as I do not know which one belongs to whom, and neither he or my children have been infected. Now if you have the mites that are not restricted to the head and they are on your body, then I cannot speak to that. If you get outbreaks on you face only, it is because you have not killed the eggs. The main reason they are gone is because I HAVE killed the eggs slowly but surely over the last six months. I did eventually decide to get a prescription for Ivermectin. My doctor did not feel comfortable but did write the prescription. What I got when I picked it up, was SKLICe which has Ivermectin 0.5% in it and is used to kill head lice on kids. I very carefully started to use this. I have been using it for about 3 weeks. I had managed to get brows under control some time ago, but eyelids are a problem. I read a blog that told me to use TTO 50% ratio with a natural oil, walnut etc, and I used it on my eyelashes with cottom swabs. They ran! but because I had surrounded my eyes with SKLICE, the only place they could go was in the creases above my eyelids. When that happened I very carefull swabbed them with SKLICE and they are now gone. I used it in my nostrils and for about a week there are no signs of them. The same around mouth and inside on the lips. I have not seen any white rings on my forehead either. I found one minute one between my brow and eyelid. I took care of that. I have not had outbreaks, and my skin is looking really good. But just because I have it under control, I realize that I still have to keep this up for 3 months. At that time it is safe to assume they are all dead; but we have to be on the alert all out lives.
      Ivermectin is extremely expensive,I believe $350. I researched it and found out that Medicare does sell it for $90. That is what I paid for it. The FDA has approved it and it has many names, Soolantra, Sklice etc. It works, but again only when you realize it is the eggs, not the outbreaks, that we have to stop. I will add, that although I was doing well with my effort, I had decided I do not care what it costs, I will buy it.
      Do not give up hope, and I sincerely hope that my experience will help if people are dedicated. If you attack the eggs, the nasty outbreaks will get less. but remember the egg cycle. I hope in three months you will all have the success that I have experienced.

      • JIMR says:

        I used the Ivermectin horse paste that I put in gel capsules using the weight scale on the tube, and had a huge break out 1 day after my first dose…the mites dying in my pores and since March have had a clear complexion, haven’t had that in 8 years or more. The Ivermectrin is $7 and enough for 3-4 doses depending on weight which I used. Now if I see what i think is a mite flareup in a pore I use Tea Tree oil and it is gone. Ivermectrin is Ivermectrin, it is a chemical compound whether it it used in horses, dogs or humans. Of course only use it after researching all the effects and benefits.

        • JIMR says:

          Oh …yes I took it orally. If you google it you will find others with the same results.

        • Della says:

          Hi JIMR, Thank you for your post.I decided to take a chance with this after reading your post. I have quite a lot of success in keeping these blighters under control, but they come back. I have Demodex just in my face and hair. Not a lot, but my problems is getting them out of the eyelashes and eyebrow, in my nose and inside my mouth. Most of the products you cannot put in these places. The egg cycles is anywhere between 10 to 21 days. But that means if the adults are active, they can lay eggs every night. So you have to be diligent every day. If you have an outbreak, it is from the adults dying and rotting in your skin.So when I read your post, I thought for $7 I will take a chance. I ordered the Horse Ivermectin after talking also with a friend who uses it on her horses all the time. She said go for it. I did. I weigh 150lbs so went for the 3 notches, each notch is for 50 lbs. I figured if it doesn’t improve I would up it one notch the next time. I took some last night and was afraid to look this morning. I thought I would not see much of a change. To my surprise, my nose is clear, my eyes look clear, my head is not itching and inside my mouth, there is an improvement in that the white patches have decreased. As I said, I had it under control but my skin looks improved just after one dose. I will do what you did and take it again in 4 days. I may not take the third and fourth dose, but will instead take another dose depending on the results. I will take a dose every month for 3 months to ensure the egg cycles is affected. This stuff is amazing. Ivermectin is available for humans at $350 a pop, and you can get it for $90 on medicare, but a lot of doctors are not wanting to prescribe it because they do not know much about this mite problem. It also shows the disgusting price for humans because the pharmaceutical companies can charge that. All that being said, I never felt nauseous, I slept well etc. I did notice some itching that I thought might be my head doing a job, but this stuff is really worth a try. I did have enlarged pores on my nose still from one of the first attacks that I had. Even they look smoother and smaller. I have had one place between my eyebrows that would not heal. Significant change this morning. This is the best recommendation that I have come across. I had toyed with the idea often as I saw this stuff on Amazon, but it was your post that made me a believer. It was very encouraging. I will follow up after I take the second dose. People, Go for it. Very encouraging.

          • JIMR says:

            Good to hear!! It sounds like you did not have a huge flare up like I did with the mites dying in the pores, man my face was an ugly mess for a few days, worst it had ever been. Maybe I just hit mine at a large adult population and their bodies full of waste. I did have a lot of pustules at that time when I started the ivermectrin. I also used TTO and the Butt paste mix, off and on during the Ivermectin, but I’m positive it was the Ivermctin that did all the work. I noticed a few small pustules this week and used TTO and it seemed to do the trick but I’m going to follow up with a dose of Ivermectin just to make sure they don’t repopulate. Again my face has not been this clear for over 8 years, it was hard to go in public sometimes because it was so bad.

          • Della says:

            The main thing is to hit the eggs before they hatch. As I have written I can see the round white circles on my four head and so I could attack those before they hatch. That is how I got it under control but there’s no way to wipe them out unless you use the ivermectin I saw the horse ivermectin along time ago and was tempted but was too chicken to do it. But when I read your report I figured I’ve got nothing to lose for seven dollars. It works. We just have to be careful not to overdose but the package I received was very easy to measure out and when I took it yesterday the only thing I realized is that I now have an appetite like a horse so I now have to fix another breakfast because I’m starving

          • JIMR says:

            Della, I was just wondering, I have never seen a demodex mite and all that I have read states they are to small to see except under a microscope. Me just guessing …….What you might have is the other mite that plagues people and is the scabie mite . They leave the same type of pustules and Ivermectin is also used to treat them, in fact it was a guy posting on another site on how he used horse paste Ivermectin to rid himself of scabies that got me to use it. Anyway I may be wrong but the treatment is the same and I’m glad you are having positive results. FYI ….I took a dose of Ivermectrin yesterday as I was noticing a few very small pustules on my right cheek that TTO was not helping much, and boom this morning I had 2 larger pustules that came up during the night. The mites died but they all died at once in a small area of my pores so it caused what I was expecting to happen if it was a true new starting of demodex mites. I may have to keep doing every few months to finally eradicate them from my skin.

          • Della says:

            I have Demodex as I have been to dermatologist. Had them for 2 years. They are only on my face. I used the nu-stock along with other stuff snd kept it to a minimum. I believe that I was quite successful in keeping it under control because I realized the egg cycle is what we have to attack and so I could actually see where the eggs have been laid in rings on my forehead. When you see that you can attack them with alcohol or I also use tweezers and immediately used nu-stock. I also believe that I had a compromised immune system caused by taking a lot of medication when I had a serious back injury and was in constant pain . The outbreaks were ongoing and not serious but I decided to look into the ivermectin . When you take prescription ivermectin you get three pills one to be taken each month. That is a 90 day cycle which will wipe out the mites. I do believe we have a chance of wiping them out completely by doing this treatment three or four times over the period of 90 days. I say 90 days because that is what I read all the time when I go on these blogs that say you should keep to eradicate them. I will do that and maybe just keep it up for a while to see how it goes. Last night I was quite surprised at the red bumps that came to the surface. But the new stock and Desitin really helps the skin and this morning when I woke up it was clear. I am going it because The various things I am using are ruining my skin. I will do another run Tomorrow to see what the results are. If the results are good that will be it for a couple of weeks and then I would do one treatment each month for two months. You obviously had a really bad attack and it was not under control. So you may have to repeat this treatment for at least 90 days. I have read other reports from a lot of people that have done this and they are completely satisfied and several of them Have written on the blogs that this has cured it. Some people use the cream ivermectin. But I think actually taking the oral will be more effective. Try looking on your four head with a magnifying mirror. That might proliferate on the four head and they can do that every night. I can actually see faint white rings which are the eggs. If you see them take a dose. Remember these mites proliferate every night so eggs are hatching all the time. If you are having breakouts that is the result of the adults dying. I am not sure if this is true, but I also read somewhere that ivermectin actually kills the eggs. So you may have a residual of adults hanging around and that is why you are still having the outbreaks. Keep killing the eggs and eventually it will be gone. The Rosales also disappears over time. Egg cycle is 10 to 21 days. Just keep doing what you are doing and gradually it will disappear. Do not wait for outbreaks, thry will stop once the eggs are not hatching anymore.

          • Yvonna says:

            My face is a mess. I don’t want to leave the house. I have tried everything and can not rid myself of these buggers. I am taking a garlic milk recipe now and face is really broke out…. How do I use the Ivermectin? I am 145lbs. So sick of having mites…. I have fought this for years. Please help. Thanks in advance.

          • Della says:

            Same as me. Three notches. Take it 3 time in a row, once every 6 days. I did wait a month after that and took another dose as I had it in my mouth. Wanted to make sure. Skin is clear as a bell. Do not panic if the breakout gets worse. It is because the adults rot when they die. Be patient and see after a week your skin will start to repair. You take it three times as the egg cycle is 21 days and it kills the newly hatched eggs. Good luck and let us know how it is going.

    • Della says:

      Sorry I forgot to mention, the rosacea is gone also.

  20. Della says:

    This morning my skin is so improved.. It is soft and looks more like it did 2 years ago. I will take another dose just to make sure that they are all gone. I cannot see anything on my skin with the magnifying mirror. It has not looked like this, no bumps, blotches, etc. JIMR thank you for your report. I had read about the success from others with this product, but your post encouraged me. No side effects except for increased hunger which is gone today. One happy camper.

  21. Zach64 says:

    For all who use TTO… Here is a product called Cliradex (in case you have not heard of it before) that uses the most potent ingredient in TTO to kill the mites. The study says its better than TTO as TTO also has some ingredients that are antagonistic to this really potent ingredient (T40). Here is the study… https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3860352/

    My wife is using the wipes nightly and her bad case of roseacea is gradually improving a great deal.

  22. Vladimir says:

    Jimr, how many notches did you take for your 225? Coz i dont know how your gel capsules looks like. Guys, do you have some news?

    • Della says:

      Vladimir, Each notch is 50 lbs. I user 3 notches. Another way to take it is take a piece of bread, put gel in the bread, do not chew, just swallow. When the gel comes out,it is in a tube form, so squeeze on a plate. Make smaller pieces of thin bread according to how easy you can swallow without chewing. The idea is to form it so that the gell is in the inside and you do not taste it. You most probably should take 200lbs which is 4 notches. Try that first and see what kind of response you get. You could up it a bit on your second dose. I made the swallowing easier as I coated it with jam and it slid down very well.
      Yesterday I took my second dose. I waited 5 days between doses. So far nothing has happened on my face as the first dose worked well. I have a couple of breakouts on the hairline. You most probably have a lot more than I did as I have been controlling them for about a year. Expect a big outbreak as it really works. I also used Nu-stock (which is also an animal product and costs about $10) which I got on Amazon, as the outbreaks happened. I mixed 50/50 with baby Desitin on my face. Desitin you can get in Target, Walmart, etc. This mixture is soothing to the skin and helps to get rid of all the red lumps and bumps etc. that you can see after taking the Ivermectin. It contains sulfur which is good for the skin. I put it on at night, it is messy but cover your pillows with a towel. JIMR also used that.

      This is the best remedy by far. I have read that many have been in remission for several months. My pharmacist friend said go for it! It costs $7 as opposed to the new FDA approved Ivermectin for humans that costs $350. No side effects, except I ate more for 3 days, and if I get closure to this awful situation, then hey so be it. If I get another outbreak in 6 months, or whenever, hey I will do this again. I can live really well with this remedy. Good luck to you. Update us all on what your results are.

  23. Della says:

    Huge success! Eyebrows absolutely clear, skin amazing, mouth seems clear, nostrils clear, eyelashes clear although that took longer. I actually smeared the horse Ivermectin topically on those places and it worked. I took 3 doses, one each 4 days. I will wait one week and take another dose. Then sit back and wait. I have had no side effects at all. My pharmacist friend approved what I did. So anyone out there still suffering, go for it. This works.

    • Della says:

      Use Ivermectin for horses. Read all the posts about it. Not one person has reported anything bad. I am clear after two years. Take it orally. Several people have had total success

    • JIMR says:

      So glad for you. It was amazing to me too just how different the skin on my face changed, I was so use to the pustules and rough flaky skin after 8 years, now it is like new,… well for a 59 yr new face after I used Ivermectrin. For all others reading this, anyone can have a side effect to any medications so you have to do this on your own and do your research so you are sure it is what you want to do. But Ivermectrin is Ivermectrin it is a chemical compound whether it is used in animals or humans. Just make sure there are not other compounds in the paste, a few horse paste have more than just one compound.

  24. Vladimir says:

    Guys, do you have any news?

    • JIMR says:

      My face is still clear. I did take another dose of Ivermectrin when I saw a few pustules that TTO did not take care of and they are gone. Have you tried the Ivermectrin yet? If so did it work for you?

      • Vladimir says:

        19.08 I started to use Ungex product, it’s hard to get in Poland. So i will make updates. I am going to try ivermectin in 2 month. So, it looks like they are gone? Did you feel itching, and do you feel it now?

        • JIMR says:

          I felt a little itching. My face blew up once I took the Ivermectrin and was a mess for about a week. then cleared up and was the best it has been in 8 years and is still that way today.

  25. Mike Marca says:

    I tried Ivermectrin (Stromectrol) three times. It worked the first two times, but on the third time the mites adapted to it. I now just save it for emergency situations where nothing else will work. Mike

  26. Meka says:

    Hello everyone,

    I have been suffering from a mite or some sort for 2 years now. This specific mite you can’t see at all it’s transparent and I have this crawling feeling constantly on my legs, face ( around my mouth, nose, eyebrows, chin, cheek just all over your face) on my head and hairline, It also gives me this itch but no rash, bumps and no indication of mites. When there on your skin they feel like a net or a piece of lent something really light like a feather or a piece of dust. I work in a small environment and I believe they get on other people some how and they start scratching there face and head. I’ve been putting rubbing alcohol and tea tree oil all over my body to soothe the itch and stop the crawling sensation but it only lasts for a while I also I feel them in my clothes and bed sheets a lot so I’ve been washing them in hot water and putting them in the hot dryer and leaving them in extra time. Seems like I’ve done everything I could think of to get rid of this we had extermination treatments more then 5 times that didn’t work.

    Does anybody else have this similar problem? Or can you maybe give me some tips or insight. Thank you!

    • JIMR says:

      Meka, read the above post by me and Della. We used Ivermectrin Horse paste internally, and after some research it looks like it takes 4 doses to really kill them all each dose taken 3-6 days apart. Also wash bedding every few days, and used TTO. If it is a mite infestation this has worked for me and others, my face is the best it has been in 8 years, clear, no pustules, no hard flaky skin. Good luck

  27. bnrjmz says:

    When I found this forum I wasn’t necessarily skeptical of results but I was skeptical of how rapidly it would work. I stand corrected. I took 1 dose of ivermectin internally 6 days ago. I have been using demodocia, soolantra, nu stock and pro tech. Don’t think the butt paste will be necessary. Haven’t gotten around to making pine pitch salve yet (intend to tonight) but think it may also be unnecessary. I also ordered extra ivermectin. Concluded it was a cheaper alternative to apply topically rather than a $75 copay for soolantra. Pleased with results. Hopeful that this may be a long term solution. Thanks for all the advice and info

    • JIMR says:

      Good to hear bnrjmz, I was kinda at a last resort when I took it, mostly to see if it was mites or something else. Did your face break out more after taking it or just start clearing up? Della’s face cleared up with out a major break out, while mine blew up for a few days then it took a few days to clear up, and since then I get a few very small pustules and use TTO or take another dose of Ivermectrin. I don’t think it cures it forever just kills the ones you have, and then they come back little by little since all humans have the mite just a few of us get breakouts/roseacia when they die in the pores. And yes $7 for the Ivermictrin is a very cheap. I was using Finacea, prescribed by my Derm, very expensive and seemed to help a little but never was my face as clear as it is now.

      • bnrjmz says:

        My face did not break out more. Mostly started clearing up with the exception of what appears to be 1 “developing” (perhaps a mite dying?) between my eyes on lower forehead. I do not know whether my case was a bad as yours or Della’s. I was diagnosed about 14 months ago. In my early 30’s, around 6 years ago, I started getting a large pimple in the same spot 2-3 times a year. It resembled cystic acne. Nothing seemed to work on it, I would just have to wait for it to develop and ride it out. It remained that way for about 5 years. Last year I was drinking a lot of red wine and experienced some emotional trauma. Then it started to spread to both cheeks and around/ above eyebrows. When I initially saw the dermatologist they thought it might be cystic acne or herpes. The biopsy apparently confirmed that it was rosacea. I don’t know whether they tested for mites specifically or not. I suppose I should probably ask if I schedule another appointment. It really blew up 2 months into a testosterone cycle. Probably not a great idea to put mites on steroids ( in case anyone is considering it). I have only had 1 experience with blepharitis. I developed a stye around 8 months ago. I seemed as though it was infected and the eyelid was swollen. An optometrist prescribed a strong antibiotic (don’t remember what it was called) and the infection cleared rapidly… the stye remained. I eventually had to have it cut out, not a pleasant experience and one I hope to avoid in the future. I only bring this all up because this is relatively new to me and I’m skeptical and curious about diagnosis. Based on research I have done, it doesn’t appear as though a lot is known about rosacea. I am pleased to see someone like Doc Kavanagh making some progress. I’m just getting speculative. Wondering if perhaps these mites might have nothing to do with rosacea. I’m a male with a dark complexion, I don’t fit the typical profile for someone with the condition. Also wondering if the mating cycle is disrupted, perhaps it will be less likely to happen again in the future. Maybe just denial on my part, trying to tell myself what I want to hear. Time will tell. Pleased to be making progress and remaining hopeful.

        • JIMR says:

          bnrjmz, what I have read is that we all have these mites, but a few of use react to them when they die in our pores. While the Ivermectrin will kill all of the mites presently on your body, they will after time come back since they are always around and on other people too. So it seems that every 6 months or a year another dose of Ivermectrin will be needed. In between I will use TTO on any areas where a pustule erupts to try and kill off the mites instead of using the Ivermectrin. I may try using the Ivermectrin also as a topical to see if it works better than the TTO. On another note since I’m 100% sure I had the mites it makes me wonder why when I drank alcohol on occasions my face would flare up and get really bad for at least 6-8 hours? Now if I drink it nothing happens! Why would the mites react to the alcohol like that. kep us posted on how the Ivermectrin works for you.

          • Della says:

            You are born with these mites. Everyone has them. When the immune systems is under attack, sickness, alcohol, stress, etc., instead of having 1 or 2 every square centimeter they multiply at an alarming rate. There are three types of these mites, the ones that like to feed off compromised Rosacea skin are Demodex. They are mainly on the face, in hair follicles, but can try to escape our efforts to destroy and travel by burrowing along the skin and turn up on the neck and chest. If you are covered in other parts of the body they are not Demodex. The types are:

            1. Demodex mites,demodex folliculorum (which are on the face) and demodex brevis

            2. Scabies mites which live predominantly on animals, can also infect humans. They don’t normally complete their life cycle in humans, but can make for intensely itchy nights, for up to ten days.

            3. Bird mites causing the sensation of crawling on the skin, especially at night. They are also virtually impossible to get rid of without tackling their source.

            Scabies and Bird mites can be passed on to others. Demodex do not leave the hair follicles and die in the skin, hence the red sores caused by the mites. They have no anus so they die and rot and hence the postules.

            You cannot see Demodex with the naked eye, but if you have a 10x magnifying mirror, you may see minute white circles which are multiple eggs that form these circles. That is how I first noticed them and then the circles would disappear – they hatched. They live roughly two weeks, then after proliferation the cycles begins again. that is why they are difficult to control because they are hatching everyday as the eggs are laid at different times.
            I started by attacking the eggs with alcohol and tweezeers and I did reduce in infestation with certain products. But now U can destory them all at one time with the Horse Ivermectin. I did not have a mass death of mites because I had been working at controlling them over the last two years by killing the eggs. Now I hope they are all gone and never come back. Taking this stuff ORALLY has been a huge success and at present my skin is clear and I do not see any egg rings on my face. I do not know if it is forever, but if they come back, Horse Ivermecting is ready for them and I will repeat the treatment. Horses have to be dewormed every 2 to 3 months because of their environment. Ivermectin does not kill the horses, so if I am careful and do it a couple times a year if the return, then so be it. All I know is that right now they are no where to be seen.

            http://growyouthful.com/ailment/demodex-mite.php?utm_expid=14407910-26.7y2O4rRxRWCo8nxs7r-LXQ.0&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F

            Here is the link to inform yourselves. I write these blogs to help others as I received help from others. Do not give up. Horse Ivermectin works and costs about $7 on amazon. Ivermectin for humans costs $350 although some insurance covers it and you pay $90. Doctors know very little about these mites, and until recently, there were no meds. Many people have used the Ivermectin for horses and it has worked far better than anything out there. I weight 150 lbs and am 5’8″ so used three notches of Ivermectin. If you are 250lbs you beed 5 notches. I took one dose each week. and ended up taking three to kill them and one more just to make sure. so 4 does in a month. My skin is clear and has recovered somewhat from all the crap I put on my face for a year, alcohol, soaps, creams etc. that helped but were not permanent. I had no side effects from the Ivermectin. Again my pharmacist friend said go for it and my doctor laughed when I told her what I had done. Good luck and I hope this helps someone out there.

            I also pray a lot but firmly believe my answers came upstairs through being introduced to others experiences.

            Good luck and I hope this helps someone out there. Have courage.

      • bnrjmz says:

        I also have an appointment scheduled with a naturopath in 2 weeks. I have been taking a lot of probiotic to hopefully counter effects of anibiotic. I hope to diagnose anything that may be going on with gut bacteria. I would like to ween myself off of doxycycline. Wonder if it may be doing more harm than good

  28. Della says:

    What is so amazing is that they had gotten into my eyes and lashes. Also inside my mouth which when they came out at the corners, it looked like cold sores. Took the fourth dose of Ivermectin for horses. To date I am not putting anything on my face except for moisturizer. Eyelashes are clear, mouth is clear, It took longer on the eyelashes, but one my one when I cleansed my eyelashes, they would drop off. I decided to rub this stuff on the inside of my mouth, afterall I had taken it internally. Actually it tasted better that expected and the blighters did not like it. None left. Who knows how long this will last, but if we are vigilant, and watch carefully, I will repeat this treatment again if necessary.. It has to be the horse Ivermectin internally. The creams do not work so well. I was at the doctors yesterday and told her what I had done. She laughed so hard and said ‘yes, I understand, but we are not allowed to tell you to take horse medicine’. She never said a word about danger and my pharmacist friend said go for it. It has worked for me so quickly. Remember, one notch is for 50 lbs, I weigh 150lbs so I took 3 notches. I actually poured honey on the spoon and took it that way. Went down fine.

  29. Mike Marca says:

    Ivermectin is a poison! I would never take it as a continual treatment. It can be harmful. For me the results with Ivermectin was only short lived. The mites adapted to it, to where it became ineffective. I tried it three separate times. The first two times it worked very good, but the third time I tried it it did nothing at all. I recently had an out break around my left eye. It was very scary to say the least, and my eye became inflamed. What I did was to use Pro-Tech-Skin about five times a day, but I put it on very thick, even on my eyelashes. Two days later they were gone! I think Pro-Tech-Skin sticks the mites down to where they can hardly move, and they move on. Mike

    • Della says:

      Mike this is not true! The oral dose if taken according to instructions is fine. I asked my pharmacist told me it is the same as the tablets you get from the doctor which has been tested on animals. There is always a chance that with any medication you may have a allergic reactions. You can have that with any food if you are prone to an allergic reaction. Ivermectin is not a poison. All medicines are a poison if you abuse the substance. That is life. Even my doctor agreed, so do not scare people. Here is a report on Ivermectin I am copyig and posting.

      Oral ivermectin appears to be a safe medication. Ivermectin is primarily metabolised in the liver by CYP450-3A47 and has a plasma half life of 16 hours. It is almost exclusively excreted in faeces with minimal clearance by the kidneys. It therefore does not require dose adjustment for people with renal failure.

      Google “Is Ivermectin safe” and see the results. I would expect everyone to do their own research, which is what I did.

      • JIMR says:

        Mike, I’m with Della on this. I tried many things and nothing really worked it just made it not as bad for a while, but would always come back, which sounds just like what you are going through. From another site ….very good info….( look for mrsmoof post ) https://rosaceagroup.org/The_Rosacea_Forum/showthread.php?21929-Ivermectin-for-Demodex/page7 I posted how a lady mrsmoof showed how Ivermecin worked and how to take it, and sometimes it takes 4 or more doses spread out to kill them all. I think if you did the dosage like that person said you would see better results. It is what Della and I did and our faces are clear now, and for me no redness and only a few very minor pustules for over 6 months, and not just clear but it looks so much better, heck even if I have a few beers now my face does not change, before it was always a flare up after a few beers. Hope the best for you in your fight with this problem we all share.

    • Vladimir says:

      Have you tried Horse Paste? Or stromectol? And how many dose?

    • JIMR says:

      Here is another mans story on using Ivermictin

      https://rosacea-support.org/community/viewtopic.php?t=1882

      This is from Department of Dermatology, Division of General Dermatology, University of Vienna Medical School, Austria.

      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10534645

      • JIMR says:

        DETAILED DESCRIPTION USING IVERMECTIN ( taken from another site )

        In the preferred embodiment of this invention, ivermectin is administered orally to a patient with active rosacea in a dose of about 200 micrograms per kilogram of body weight per dose. Because the target organism, Demodex folliculorum, is an ectoparasite in the mite family, an effective treatment must be capable of eradicating the entire life cycle of such a microscopic insect, including egg, larval, and adult stages. For this reason, this embodiment treats such rosacea patients with at least two doses timed so that between three and seven days separate the doses. Such spacing allows time for Demodex eggs to hatch into immature mites that are killed before they can mature into egg-producing adults. While two doses has been demonstrated to be quite effective, in unusual cases where absorption is impaired, as many as four doses at three- to seven-day intervals could be employed. After ivermectin carries out its miticidal activity on skin Demodex folliculorum organisms, inflammatory responses to them begin to diminish but remnants of the dead mites still elicit some flushing and lesion formation until the cleanup processes of the body remove them, a process requiring six to eight weeks. During this initial phase of ivermectin administration, conventional anti-rosacea medications such as oral tetracycline and topical metronidazole can be employed to suppress early flareups and to give early clinical response. No such medications are needed to treat manifestations of rosacea after six to eight weeks have elapsed. After prolonged intevals of freedom from rosacea symptoms, should classic signs begin to reappear, treatment can be repeated. Such retreatments should not be necessary more than one or two times per year.

        In an alternative embodiment, ivermectin is formulated into a cosmetically-acceptible topical lotion, cream, or gel and applied to skin affected by rosacea. Because of the well-known barrier effect the skin presents to the penetration of topical medications, such a route of treatment with ivermectin would be anticipated to require once- or twice-daily applications for as long as four weeks to achieve sufficient follicle penetration and effective miticidal activity. A topical formulation that could achieve this effect would contain about 1-5% ivermectin and could be enhanced in penetration if the active agent were encapsulated inside microliposomes. Such a topical treatment would likely need to be repeated more frequently than the preferred oral embodiment, but a disease-free interval should be achieved by each course of therapy.

        EXAMPLES

        Three adult rosacea patients with varied clinical presentations and with varied disease durations are selected to illustrate the disclosed invention. These patients’ cases illustrate the effectiveness of ivermectin treatment on the different clinical manifestations of the disease.

        Patient 1

        This 44-year old Caucasian female had exhibited clinical evidence of rosacea for 1-2 years and had been treated with limited success with oral tetracycline, topical and oral metronidazole, and cortisone creams. Her facial skin exhibited mid-facial erythema and flushing with papule and pustule formation. In addition, her eyelids exhibited chronic blepharitis and repeated loss of eyelashes, which is quite typical of rosacea. She was treated with ivermectin, 200 micrograms per kilogram of body weight in each of two oral doses with an interval of four days between doses. Oral tetracycline was continued at a dose of 500 milligrams per day for the first 30 days after ivermectin was given and then was discontinued. After a mild initial flareup of mid-facial papules, the condition improved rapidly to the point that by 60 days no papules were present, all eyelashes were growing back, and she had no more flushing with heat or spicy foods. Symptoms had not returned after three months.

        Patient 2

        This 33-year old Caucasian female had the acute onset of papular and pustular rosacea involving nearly all of her cheeks and chin two months prior to her evaluation. Marked itching and redness were present, but no eye symptoms were noted. Ivermectin in two 200 microgram per kilogram oral doses given three days apart was administered along with a four-week course of oral tetracycline. The clinical signs abated quickly, with itching being gone after one week and papular lesions clearing by three weeks. At two months from the onset of treatment and one month after cessation of tetracycline, no clinical signs or symptoms of rosacea remained.

        Patient 3

        This 65-year old African-American female had suffered from severe papular and pustular rosacea of the mid-face and nose for 15 years. Tetracycline, in doses of 500-1000 mg per day had proven to be the only partially-effective medication for her. Oral ivermectin was administered in two 200 microgram per kilogram doses given four days apart and tetracycline was continued for one month in a dose of 500 mg per day. Followup at three months from the start of ivermectin therapy revealed only mild hyper-pigmentation at the sites of previous inflamed papules and pustules. The patient reported that no new lesions had been noted for six weeks prior to that 3-month evaluation.

        While these examples illustrate the preferred embodiment of this invention, the treatment of rosacea using oral ivermectin, exposure of Demodex mites to ivermectin from any route of administration will result in the elimination of the organisms and secondary amelioration of the signs of inflammation that are typical of rosacea. Therefore, the topical use of ivermectin in any vehicle that allows it to adequately penetrate into skin follicles to reach the level occupied by Demodex folliculorum will be an effective treatment for rosacea and is considered to be entirely within the scope of this invention. Changes of dosages, dosing schedules, concentrations, vehicles, and frequency of repetition of ivermectin regimens are also not considered to be outside the scope of this invention.

  30. bnrjmz says:

    Della, Jimr… You have been very helpful, I appreciate it. Mike, you’ve had some useful insight but sometimes seem to be an alarmist. Vlad, you always seem late to the party. We’ve all tried horse paste

  31. Mike Marca says:

    My face at the time is clear, and what I am doing is working. I really do not have the money now for more experimentation. I tried Stromectrol three times. The first two times it worked, but the third time it did not. I will wait for a while longer. Mike

  32. Mike Marca says:

    Ok, I bought some horse Ivermectin paste, and I will try it. My rosacea and mite infection is very minor right now, but I will use it on the small areas that give me some trouble at times. It only cost me $5.00 on e-bay.

    • Delka says:

      Mike you use it orally not on the skin. One notch for each 50lbs of your weight. It is safe. Good luck.

    • JIMR says:

      Mike, While Ivermectin works to some degree topical, it has shown to work better when taken orally. The reason is it kills all of them not just the ones where you are applying to your skin. Also I think I read that the absorption is not that good , so when they are still in the pores the Ivermectin doe snot reach them. Just my 2 cents after reading a lot of stuff on Ivermectin.

  33. Mike Marca says:

    I know, but the last time that I took Ivermectin it stopped working. I will try it again, like a horse. Mike

  34. Broady says:

    I used Ketoconazole shampoo to get rid of mite infection and it is getting better everyday. When the mites get into my head, I apply very small Ketoconazole and the mites are dead after few seconds. You can buy and use from any pharmacy.

  35. Mike Marca says:

    I took the horse medicine orally (3 1/2 knothes), and nothing really happened. I will do it again Monday. Mike

    • JIMR says:

      Mike, did it work for you? Can you give us a report on how much you took and how many doses and how many days between doses, and if you saw any improvement.

  36. Mike Marca says:

    Hi JIMR. I have taken it for three times now, every four days. Tomorrow, I will take it again. Sometimes I notice a noticeable difference, and sometimes I do not. After I take it the mite activity will subside for a day, and after that I don’t notice it working that much. I plan on taking it two more times before quitting. Perhaps, it may kick in then? If I use it with the Pro-Tech-Skin the results are a little better, but I still have the some mites! I guess throughout the years I built supper bugs. What used to work for awhile does not always produce the same results. Mike

    • JIMR says:

      Thanks for the feed back Mike,

      It has been 6 months or longer since I did the Ivermectin, and I started noticing a few very small pustules so did another 4 doses of Ivermectin and they are gone now. What was strange is that I had two small areas not real close to the small pustules that just became inflamed and kinda raw, and would even bleed, and it took about a week for them to heal up. So I’m assuming they were a colony of mites that died and infected that skin area once they died.

      My skin is now clean again and still the best it has been in at least 8 years. So for me I don’t think I will totally be rid of the mite problem, but at least now I have a way to keep it controlled. $7 every 6 months is very cheap compared to all the other options I tried that never worked.

      Hope it works for you Mike, I know how frustrating this mite problem.

      • Della says:

        The last dose I took I increased it by a notch and I had a bigger reaction. Now I see and feel nothing. My skin is fine. I guess we will see if they come back. I intend to do another trearnent in a few weeks just to make sure. I agree with you JIMR, this is the cheapest and easiest way to clear the skin. We have all been suffering for years and it may take a while to kill them all, but if I see any return, the Ivermectin treatment is the only way to go. Mike try increasing the dose one notch, it worked well for me.

      • Vladimir says:

        Hi, JIMR! Do you have postules on the same place as before? Or they are migrate?

        • JIMR says:

          basically the same area on my checks. The Ivermectin took care of it. But I’m noticing some dry flaky skin spots that if the flake of dead skin is removed it bleeds. I have had them before too and thought it was just where the mites died and infected the skin but not sure. smore look like small white circles like Della described as eeg nest.

          • Della says:

            Hi Mike, I had the same and the it may take a while to heal. My last dose I upped to 200 (I weigh 150). I have an Aloa Vera plant and I snipped a large piece off, washed it and each day cut 1 inch piece off, slit it open and squeezed it on my face and neck. That healed my skin. I also used the Desitin to calm those bad places. That worked for me. I had one spot between my eyebrows that would not heal. After taking the last dose, I squeezed that sucker and cleaned it out. In 5 days it healed and today cannot be seen. I think Ivermectin is the best. But, I am prepared to do the treatment twice a year until I am convinced that all are gone. For me this was a blessing. Horses get this every 3 months to kill the worms. I felt I should do the same until they are gone. My results are great. Just keep at it until it is gone. Then be diligent and at first signs repeat. Good luck.

  37. Douglas says:

    Nu-Stock Sulfur Ointment killed the demodex. After 2 applications I could see chandeliers hanging from the walls of my ears. Every pore was infested. The ear hairs looked black with a thick black ring at the bottom . After using alcohol, peroxide, and tea-tree oil, I finally found Nu-Stock and my 10 year battle is pretty much over. Nu stock dries everything, including the eggs. Cut it 50% with olive oil and careful near the eyes, they may burn in the morning.

    It’s finally over.

    • JIMR says:

      Here is a post from a lady that used the Nu Stock and a home made lineament that worked for her

      https://healthyyou4less.wordpress.com/tag/demodex-cure/

    • Douglas says:

      My research has shown me that once a parasite or fungus takes hold, there are other opportunistic bacteria, fungi, parasites, etc. that may also take hold. There’s a rhino-fungus that takes root in the naval cavity and is symbiotic with demodex. I read about it somewhere and it helped put the pieces together.I will be posting a blog soon (not sure where to do that) If I can help one person then I can I find some peace in this. Just be aware that there may be more than one issue and so attempt to treat opportunistic fungus and bacteria as well as the parasite.

  38. Mike Marca says:

    Yesterday I did increased the dosage one notch, but the reaction was the same. I probably knocked them down a little, but I still have them. I will try it one more time three days from now. Then I will quit if nothing significant happens. Mike

  39. Mike Marca says:

    I have now taken the horse medicine five times now, even increasing the dosage one time. The only thing I noticed is a decrease in activity for one day after taking the horse medicine. I still have the mites. I will continue doing what I did before taking this medicine. Mike

    • JIMR says:

      Sorry to hear that the Ivermectin did not give you the same good results like I and others had. Can’t figure out how that can be if it killed the mites we had but it did not kill your mites. I still get little pustules so the mites are still there to some degree but no even close to what they were when took the Ivermectin. I use the Butt paste, Nu-Stock, Castor oil, TTO and a few other essential oils mix on these small pustules and it does take care of them. You might give it a try. I’m fairly sure I will never be rid of them 100% and will use the Ivermectin orally every 6 months just to keep them to a minimum. I just had 2 small ones on my forehead a one on my neck but they are gone now after 3 days of using the above homemade suave / ointment.

  40. Vladimir says:

    Della, i want to ask you, did you have any problem with hairlose on your eyenrows and eyelashes?

    • Della says:

      Yes. This is the last place the mites are killed. I kept finding them until a couple weeks ago. One eyebrow was like a hive but they died instantly and erupted immediately. Remember if you have breakouts it is because the dead are rotting – a good sign. It takes a while for that to heal. Eye lashes are different. We lose them frequently, but they grow back. Do not worry. Just keep moving forward. I had an eruption that never healed. It has healed since the Ivermectin for horses in just a month. This is not going to go away over night and keep going until your skin improves then hit it again one more time. You are the only one that can determine when enough is enough. My skin is great now. Do I believe I got them all? No idea! But It is the only way that I am aware that works. If I have to repeat this treatment in 6 months, so be it. I am free now and enjoying it. It is common sense. It will not be over in one foul swoop. But every time you do it. They get less. Good luck.

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