Homeopathy

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Homeopathy

Postby miss_c_jones » Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:37 pm

Hi Everyone,

After being offered the solution of being on long-term antibiotics by my doctor, which i decided against, i felt i would just have to accept my condition and be thankful that i'd already found a fella who thought i was beautiful even with this horrible condition. It was then suggested by a friend to visit a homeopath that had successfully cured his gout.

After an hour-long in depth session, discussing medical and family history, lifestyle, diet, personality traits, likes/dislikes etc. she put me on a weeks course of Arsenicum Album, and although both family members and myself noted a slight improvement whilst taking the tablets, since coming off them the rosacea is back with full force. I have follow up appointment with her today so will see what she says.

I just wondered if anyone else had tried the homeopathy route and if you've had any success?

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Re: Homeopathy

Postby fanny » Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:55 pm

Welcome to the Board,
I'm hoping one of other members has used homeopathy for I have not. Have you tried anything else aside from antibiotics?
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Re: Homeopathy

Postby WrinkledClue » Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:54 pm

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Re: Homeopathy

Postby miss_c_jones » Fri Jul 22, 2011 8:10 am

Hi,

I understand many of you being sceptical of alternative medicine, but I really do feel that there is nothing more modern medicine can offer me, and at the age of 23 I'm not prepared to just accept my rosacea.

After my second consultation yesterday, my homeopath has explained that she will not tackle my symptoms as a whole but use different medicines to remove each individual symptom.

I honestly don’t care if it's a placebo effect if it works…I will keep you posted.

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Re: Homeopathy

Postby LoisAnne » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:16 am

When you are on the antibiotics, do they help a lot? If so you might consider using Oracea which is a low dose doxycycline that is time released and made just for Rosacea. Supposedly it is low dose enough that it does not act as an antibiotic but as an anti inflammatory medicine. What other treatments have you tried? I hope that the homeopathic doctor can help you but I would not totally write off standard medical treatment. Hopefully new treatments will be found for us.
Do keep us posted if you find alternative medicine that does work for you.
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Re: Homeopathy

Postby spencer » Sat Jul 23, 2011 4:14 am

Hi,

I'll be graduating soon from my homeopathy program (next week! yippee!). It's a five-year program that includes pharmacology, nutrition and other lifestyle factors, philosophy, etc. I also did an undergrad and Masters in both the Arts and Sciences. I mention this because homeopaths usually know more than just homeopathy, so even if you don't benefit from the homeopathy you will probably benefit from other suggestions. Having said that, I have tried everything to balance my hormones, which were exacerbating rosacea symptoms. I tried bio-identicals, herbs, acupuncture, dietary changes, etc., and while these worked for a time, nothing ever fully helped the main issues (anxiety, depression, insomnia following a miscarriage). I found that homeopathy was the gentle push I needed to get back into balance. The remedy I have found most helpful for my flushing has been Belladonna, by the way, if flushing happens to be an issue for you. It works almost right away. On a side note I also began taking Grape Seed Extract, which helped prevent the flushing in the first place. But I needed to be treated for the underlying emotional issues before the rosacea could fully come under control. You will find that the rosacea is just a symptom of a much deeper issue. It is easy to just blame it on a vascular issue or other rosacea theories, but this doesn't explain why the rosacea exists in the first place.

For any doubters of homeopathy, just try it on babies or animals and you will realize it is not the placebo effect. Also, all of the allopathic studies that have ever been done on homeopathy test it through a very narrow lens. For example, they might give the same remedy to bunch of people with the same symptoms. Well, guess what, we are all unique individuals and therefore all of our symptoms are for different reasons. Yes, they could be as a result of diet or a virus that's going around or something pretty easy to diagnose (e.g. chicken pox virus or scurvy), therefore all requiring the same remedy or supplement, but oftentimes symptoms are the result of something unique for each person. Therefore, you need a practitioner to discern what the most appropriate remedy is for each individual. They might get it wrong, for sure, but at least you won't have the debilitating side effects that long-term use of some allopathic meds can create. So, if you get 10 rosaceans you might find that they all have unique constitutions, unique body chemistry, unique genetics, and therefore require a unique diet and exercise plan, as well as a unique remedy.

There are different types of homeopathy out there. I practice dual prescribing, which is different from the classical approach to homoepathy. It sounds like your homeopath practices the latter. It's all about different homeopaths having interpreted Hahnemann's writings differently. But getting back to your questions. Homeopathy is an effective tool, to be sure, but as is the case with any other healing modality, you want to also combine it with good diet and other healthy lifestyle habits. Please let me know if you have any other questions and sorry for the overload of information.
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Re: Homeopathy

Postby Peacock » Sat Jul 23, 2011 8:58 am

With all due respect to those practicing Homeopathy, lets be clear on what the current medical research suggests (most specifically on the recommended use of Belladonna for Rosacea flushing).

Currently, there are no completed medical trials or documented medical research to suggest Homeopathy works in any shape or form in the treatment of Rosacea.

At a cost most likely exceeding a licensed and medically approved dermatologist, Homeopathy can be a huge (not covered by insurance) financial burden to an individual in search of a Rosacea cure. Unproven supplements (turmeric pills, glycine, vitamins, acne lamps,etc...) and a "natural" approach can prove to be a mental and financial hardship on the individual.

If an individual with Rosacea is suffering or struggling with Emotional issues and or Nutritional issues, experts in both of those fields should be pursued.
A properly educated and licensed Therapist or Nutritionist is the route to go.

Choice. We all have freedom of choice. If someone wants to pursue a Homeopathy journey ....fine, so be it. Let us know your results in 90 days, 6 months and then one year.Let us know the cost of the supplements and 'visits'.Up until this point, I have seen zero published cases in the medical literature.
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Re: Homeopathy

Postby oldredlady » Sat Jul 23, 2011 2:14 pm

I don't know much about homeopathy, but have my fingers crossed your treatments work for you. :)

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Re: Homeopathy

Postby spencer » Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:40 pm

Hi,

I'll try and keep the conversation focused on the topic at hand, but first I'll offer an "alternative" viewpoint. Many naturopaths and homeopaths have been to school for 7-9 years. This includes an undergraduate degree and 4-5 years post-graduate study. One of the differences between a more conventional doctor and a so-called "alternative" practitioner is that the former prescribes synthetic drugs and the latter prescribes herbs, homeopathics and other supplements. Both use remedies derived from plant, animal or mineral with the only difference being that one is synthetic and the other is not. There is a time and a place for each.

Allopathic medication can be prohibitively expensive while a bottle of homeopathic pills sets you back for no more than $7.99. For my patients that don't have the money to by supplements, we focus more on diet. Many practitioners offer a sliding scale when it comes to cost and when I graduate I will be able to write receipts to meet the requirements of most insurance companies. Some homeopaths are registered with naturopathic associations, so is acceptable to insurance companies that cover naturopaths. For people without private insurance, it can get expensive if you're seeing someone every week, but with homeopathy it really isn't necessary to see a practitioner that often. You're paying that practitioner for their time and won't be seeing him/her more than once every 6 weeks. At least that's been my experience. Also, some homeopaths will include the price of remedies with the consultation fee. The homeopath I see costs $55, it's covered by insurance, and I see her every 2 months. But, yes, Peacock is right. You can really spend a lot of money on alternative treatments if you want to, but there are ways around this. As far as recommending to see a nutritionist, etc., I'm not sure that this is a valid argument. Many naturopaths and homeopaths have studied nutrition for years, while there are some nutritionists with a certificate from a 1 or 2 year course. There are exceptions of course. There are many nutritionists who have also been to school for years. It's worth doing the research! As for severe emotional issues, it is best to seek the advice of a specialist (psychiatrist, psychologist, etc.). However, there are many remedies that can help while one is going through this challenge.

As for published cases in medical literature, I mentioned before how flawed these studies are. In all of these trials, the same remedy was given to every patient for the same condition. Yet, as I have already mentioned, we are all individuals with unique reasons for our condition. Therefore, you might require a different remedy for each patient. To discern the most appropriate remedy, you need a homeopath. No such homeopath exists in these studies. As for a homeopathic trial being done on people with rosacea, no such trial exists that I'm aware of. And the Belladonna remedy I mention works for me, but might not work for the next person...so it is not something I recommend without consulting a practitioner. In the field of homeopathy, we see rosacea as a symptom not as a disease. The cause of that symptom(s) will be different in every individual. There is no "one-size-fits-all" approach.

Peacock, you are right about choice. It comes down to choice. There are MDs in my program, for example, who chose to leave their field for homeopathy. They felt let down by their field and the heavy emphasis on pharmaceuticals. They felt like they were hurting people more than helping them, always suppressing symptoms only for them to come back in some other form. There is a time and a place for conventional medicine vs. alternative treatment. I feel very fortunate to have access to both.
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Re: Homeopathy

Postby CrabbyCathy » Sun Jul 24, 2011 3:46 am

Spencer, if you were near me, I'd come see you! Hmmm. I wonder if there is a naturopath near me? Is there a site where I can search for a good one, like the one for Derms?

If you try more things on yourself, or find something that helps you or others, I hope you share with us also :)

I think there are also MD's who chose to use homeopathy, Eastern medicine, what have you, in conjunction with traditional methods.

IMO, it also comes down to doing your research, just as you would for a derm, MD, someone who will do your IPL......don't pick someone out of a hat. Do your research, be informed, and make good decisions :)
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