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		<title>By: Sophie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sophie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 11:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pavla,

I am really sorry to hear that you have had a bad reaction.  Thank you for letting us know about the dangers of prolonged use and using Cetaphil in combination with this cream.    It sounds like an allergic reaction.

Digital Davo,

My skin improved for 4 weeks and then seemed to regress in week 5.  I discontinued use after reading Pavla&#039;s post.  I believe that the cream was starting to react with my makeup.

This week, I started using the cream again sparingly at night after washing my face with a colloidal oatmeal soap  (Aveeno moisturizing bar) rather than putting my makeup over the product and this approach seems to be working very well.  The red areas of my face have lightened considerably but there are a couple of areas that I am trying to improve.  My sister has also gone on the trial and noticed an improvement within the first 2 weeks;  her skin is significantly improved at week 4.  Her condition was very extreme with thickening of the tissue and spider veins.  

From Pavla&#039;s experience, it appears that the cream does not work on all patients and that it needs to be treated as a medication to be used with caution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pavla,</p>
<p>I am really sorry to hear that you have had a bad reaction.  Thank you for letting us know about the dangers of prolonged use and using Cetaphil in combination with this cream.    It sounds like an allergic reaction.</p>
<p>Digital Davo,</p>
<p>My skin improved for 4 weeks and then seemed to regress in week 5.  I discontinued use after reading Pavla&#8217;s post.  I believe that the cream was starting to react with my makeup.</p>
<p>This week, I started using the cream again sparingly at night after washing my face with a colloidal oatmeal soap  (Aveeno moisturizing bar) rather than putting my makeup over the product and this approach seems to be working very well.  The red areas of my face have lightened considerably but there are a couple of areas that I am trying to improve.  My sister has also gone on the trial and noticed an improvement within the first 2 weeks;  her skin is significantly improved at week 4.  Her condition was very extreme with thickening of the tissue and spider veins.  </p>
<p>From Pavla&#8217;s experience, it appears that the cream does not work on all patients and that it needs to be treated as a medication to be used with caution.</p>
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		<title>By: Pavla</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pavla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 14:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I took part in this clinical trial together with my 4-year-old daughter  starting Dec.16, 2008 and finished after 8 weeks of use.
We sent photos to Dr. Cuevas weekly.
I was informed in advance this trial shall last at least 4-6 weeks so I was not surprised when I did not find any change after 2 weeks. But already in the beginning I evaluated the cream as very greasy and informed Dr. Cuevas. I never received any standpoint to this discovery.
My daughter had no positive result after 6 weeks so we stopped use. I even  can see more redness on her face and new visible teleangiectasis. This active ingredient is not going to be a medicine for her.
I did not notice any positive change in my case after 6 weeks but also no worsening. Dr. Cuevas replied to my sceptic e-mail that it is safe to use Doxium cream longer and suggested to use it 2 more weeks.  After 8 weeks of use I did not see anything good again but have following experience.
In the end of my treatment I used mineral make-up which I removed by Cetaphil cleanser. I felt burning  immediately after Cetaphil contact with my face. I did not pay enough attention to this and cleaned my face with Cetaphil completely. It burned so much that immediate cleaning with running water did not help from burning. My face became red and today , almost 4 months later I am not OK. I am more red in compare with December 2008.  I started to use 1% metronidazol cream again in order to calm down my redness and dryness. Within 2-3 days many bumps appeared on my overdried face together with a red rash around my lips looking like some dermatitis. 1%metronidazol did not solve my problem so I went to doctor who evaluated my new bumps as ACNE. I received prescription for Fucidin gel which heals existing bumps with leaving red scars ; and  does not help to stop creating new. The dryness was finally solved by Rozex Cream 0,75%.
I understand that CA.Dobesilate is a sort of salt and suppose the prolonged length of use has  caused my skin dry and sensitive on touch. I do not recomment to use it longer than 6 weeks to those who do not see positive results within this period; and, perhaps the use of other face  cleanser during the treatment might be better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I took part in this clinical trial together with my 4-year-old daughter  starting Dec.16, 2008 and finished after 8 weeks of use.<br />
We sent photos to Dr. Cuevas weekly.<br />
I was informed in advance this trial shall last at least 4-6 weeks so I was not surprised when I did not find any change after 2 weeks. But already in the beginning I evaluated the cream as very greasy and informed Dr. Cuevas. I never received any standpoint to this discovery.<br />
My daughter had no positive result after 6 weeks so we stopped use. I even  can see more redness on her face and new visible teleangiectasis. This active ingredient is not going to be a medicine for her.<br />
I did not notice any positive change in my case after 6 weeks but also no worsening. Dr. Cuevas replied to my sceptic e-mail that it is safe to use Doxium cream longer and suggested to use it 2 more weeks.  After 8 weeks of use I did not see anything good again but have following experience.<br />
In the end of my treatment I used mineral make-up which I removed by Cetaphil cleanser. I felt burning  immediately after Cetaphil contact with my face. I did not pay enough attention to this and cleaned my face with Cetaphil completely. It burned so much that immediate cleaning with running water did not help from burning. My face became red and today , almost 4 months later I am not OK. I am more red in compare with December 2008.  I started to use 1% metronidazol cream again in order to calm down my redness and dryness. Within 2-3 days many bumps appeared on my overdried face together with a red rash around my lips looking like some dermatitis. 1%metronidazol did not solve my problem so I went to doctor who evaluated my new bumps as ACNE. I received prescription for Fucidin gel which heals existing bumps with leaving red scars ; and  does not help to stop creating new. The dryness was finally solved by Rozex Cream 0,75%.<br />
I understand that CA.Dobesilate is a sort of salt and suppose the prolonged length of use has  caused my skin dry and sensitive on touch. I do not recomment to use it longer than 6 weeks to those who do not see positive results within this period; and, perhaps the use of other face  cleanser during the treatment might be better.</p>
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		<title>By: David Pascoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Pascoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 00:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the info Sophie. It would be great to hear from any others that decide to try this new cream.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the info Sophie. It would be great to hear from any others that decide to try this new cream.</p>
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		<title>By: Sophie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sophie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 21:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I realize this thread is pretty old.  Just wanted to let others know that Dr. Cuevas accepted me as a participant in his clinical trial of the 2.5% Calcium dobesiliate cream.  I had to arrange and pay for international shipping and managed to get the product into Canada (the product was described as a skin cream for customs purposes).

I have been using the skin cream for 2 weeks in the morning and evening.  Redness has visibly decreased.   My skin feels smooth and soft where there were  small bumps previously.  Spontaneous breakouts have also stopped.  The study above was conducted over 4 weeks.

Anyone interested in participating in the clinical trial can submit photographs to Dr. Pedro Cuevas at:

pedro.cuevas@hrc.es  

Dr. Pedro Cuevas
Servicio de Histología
Departamento de Investigación
Hospital Ramón y Cajal
Ctra. de Colmenar, km. 9.100
28034-Madrid-Spain
 
Tel. (0034) 913368290

If you are planning a trip to Spain, Madrid has the best tapas in Spain.  Another great reason to visit this country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I realize this thread is pretty old.  Just wanted to let others know that Dr. Cuevas accepted me as a participant in his clinical trial of the 2.5% Calcium dobesiliate cream.  I had to arrange and pay for international shipping and managed to get the product into Canada (the product was described as a skin cream for customs purposes).</p>
<p>I have been using the skin cream for 2 weeks in the morning and evening.  Redness has visibly decreased.   My skin feels smooth and soft where there were  small bumps previously.  Spontaneous breakouts have also stopped.  The study above was conducted over 4 weeks.</p>
<p>Anyone interested in participating in the clinical trial can submit photographs to Dr. Pedro Cuevas at:</p>
<p><a href="mailto:pedro.cuevas@hrc.es">pedro.cuevas@hrc.es</a>  </p>
<p>Dr. Pedro Cuevas<br />
Servicio de Histología<br />
Departamento de Investigación<br />
Hospital Ramón y Cajal<br />
Ctra. de Colmenar, km. 9.100<br />
28034-Madrid-Spain</p>
<p>Tel. (0034) 913368290</p>
<p>If you are planning a trip to Spain, Madrid has the best tapas in Spain.  Another great reason to visit this country.</p>
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		<title>By: Sophie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sophie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pavla,

This is wonderful news.  Your daughter&#039;s condition must be heart-breaking.  So glad to hear that Dr. Cuevas has sent you the cream.   Good luck with your efforts.  

I use a line of non-irritating skin products by Shikai (available at www.shikai.com).  Highly recommend the soap free Shikai shampoo, the colloidal oatmeal shower gel, borage facial cleanser &amp; borage moisturizer.  These products are designed for skin that is very sensitive, hyper-reactive, chronically dry.   The borage cream has been show to improve conditions like exema and skullcap (red rash that babies get on their head and underarms).  

Best wishes with your efforts.  Have a wonderful holiday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pavla,</p>
<p>This is wonderful news.  Your daughter&#8217;s condition must be heart-breaking.  So glad to hear that Dr. Cuevas has sent you the cream.   Good luck with your efforts.  </p>
<p>I use a line of non-irritating skin products by Shikai (available at <a href="http://www.shikai.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.shikai.com</a>).  Highly recommend the soap free Shikai shampoo, the colloidal oatmeal shower gel, borage facial cleanser &amp; borage moisturizer.  These products are designed for skin that is very sensitive, hyper-reactive, chronically dry.   The borage cream has been show to improve conditions like exema and skullcap (red rash that babies get on their head and underarms).  </p>
<p>Best wishes with your efforts.  Have a wonderful holiday.</p>
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		<title>By: Pavla</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pavla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 23:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sophie,
I´m pleased to hear your home-made medication worked already after one week of use. Hope you noticed next improvment after the second week again.
I am going to start treatment with Doxium today. I sent e-mail to Mr. Cuevas/Madrid where I described my condition, enclosed detail photographs and offered myself for tests. He replied quickly and offered he sends the cream if I agree to send photographs before and each week of treatment, which shall last 4-6 weeks. I also had to sign free participation in this study.
The cream is in tube, has white colour and is rather greasy. It shall be applied in the morning and evening.
I have 4year old daughter. She has very invasive rosacea. She has lots of pimples, teleangiectasis on cheeks and nose, pink spots on chin and it already attacked her eyes - itching. We both tried Metronidazol cream 1%, but it helped only to me. But I do not have noticable teleangiectasis or pimples and did not have signs in childhood.   Later my friend helped me to arrange Sulfacet-R Lotio from USA. It calmed some of her redness but did not stop creating of new pimples and new inflammed spots. I tried 15% azelaic acid on myself only with bad result - more redness - although I suppose it can work well for pustules if applied just locally. But it is recommended for pustules only, I understand. 
I mentioned my daughter´s case in e-mail to Mr. Cuevas as well and he offered same cream for her too. To be honest I hoped he will do so because there is mentioned in the patent that the claim for use includes children.
The lack of approved drugs worldwide made me think about experimental medicine for my child too because her situation is very tristfull and there is no time to wait additional 10-20 years for something new.
If this cream does not help, I shall start to believe our doctor who says : There is no God for erythematous rosacea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sophie,<br />
I´m pleased to hear your home-made medication worked already after one week of use. Hope you noticed next improvment after the second week again.<br />
I am going to start treatment with Doxium today. I sent e-mail to Mr. Cuevas/Madrid where I described my condition, enclosed detail photographs and offered myself for tests. He replied quickly and offered he sends the cream if I agree to send photographs before and each week of treatment, which shall last 4-6 weeks. I also had to sign free participation in this study.<br />
The cream is in tube, has white colour and is rather greasy. It shall be applied in the morning and evening.<br />
I have 4year old daughter. She has very invasive rosacea. She has lots of pimples, teleangiectasis on cheeks and nose, pink spots on chin and it already attacked her eyes &#8211; itching. We both tried Metronidazol cream 1%, but it helped only to me. But I do not have noticable teleangiectasis or pimples and did not have signs in childhood.   Later my friend helped me to arrange Sulfacet-R Lotio from USA. It calmed some of her redness but did not stop creating of new pimples and new inflammed spots. I tried 15% azelaic acid on myself only with bad result &#8211; more redness &#8211; although I suppose it can work well for pustules if applied just locally. But it is recommended for pustules only, I understand.<br />
I mentioned my daughter´s case in e-mail to Mr. Cuevas as well and he offered same cream for her too. To be honest I hoped he will do so because there is mentioned in the patent that the claim for use includes children.<br />
The lack of approved drugs worldwide made me think about experimental medicine for my child too because her situation is very tristfull and there is no time to wait additional 10-20 years for something new.<br />
If this cream does not help, I shall start to believe our doctor who says : There is no God for erythematous rosacea.</p>
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		<title>By: Pavla</title>
		<link>http://rosacea-support.org/rosacea-and-doxium-calcium-dobesilate.html/comment-page-1#comment-25595</link>
		<dc:creator>Pavla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 23:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sophie,
I am very pleased to her your home-made cream helped.
I would like to inform you I also start treatment with Doxium today. I just received parcel from Madrid hospital. I sent e-mail to Mr. Cueavas describing my condition, enclosed detail photos and offered myself for tests. He replied quickly and informed me they are performing observative study, so if I agree to sign free participation in the study he will send the cream to my address. I also had to promise to send good photographs before and each week of treatment which shall last 4-6 weeks. Cream shall be applied in the morning and evening. I do not know if they need more patiens for tests.
My daughter is 4 years and has very invasive erythematous rosacea with lots of pimples, visible teleangiectasis and permanent red spots on cheeks. It started to attack her nose, chin and eyes. Her disease is much worst in compare with me, first signs appeared at the age of 1 year.  I never had visible teleangiectasis in childhood, first pink spots appeared when I was 14. I even do not have too many pimples or pustules. And when they appear, Metronidazol 1%cream helps me. But not to my daughter. I think I did not sleep well in last 2 years because I can see new disturbed area each month on her face. There is no other approved medication for Rosacea in our country (I live in Czech Rep.). My friend helped me to arrange Sulfacet-R Lotio in USA. I think it calmed her redness a little but was not able to stop creating of new inflammed spots, pimples never dissappeared. I tried  15% azelaic acid on myself but the stinging and itching was not acceptable without use of moisture cream before. Result was bad - more redness. But I think it can work on pustules when applied locally.
I know the research of Ca.Dobesilate for Rosacea is still in the innitial phase but the case of my daughter is very tristful for our family. I can not wait next 10-20 years for new approved product for erythematous subtype. The fact that Mr. Cueavas offered Ca.Dobesilate cream for my daughter as well makes me think it probably is not toxic or too dangerous, also due to fact it can be taken orally by adults. To be honest I hoped he will do so, because in the patent is mentioned thy claim to use Ca. Dobes. on children too.
Metronidazol used to be a subject of my first hope, but failed. This is my second hope and if it fails again I will have to start beleive our doctor who says : &quot;There is no God for this disease&quot;.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sophie,<br />
I am very pleased to her your home-made cream helped.<br />
I would like to inform you I also start treatment with Doxium today. I just received parcel from Madrid hospital. I sent e-mail to Mr. Cueavas describing my condition, enclosed detail photos and offered myself for tests. He replied quickly and informed me they are performing observative study, so if I agree to sign free participation in the study he will send the cream to my address. I also had to promise to send good photographs before and each week of treatment which shall last 4-6 weeks. Cream shall be applied in the morning and evening. I do not know if they need more patiens for tests.<br />
My daughter is 4 years and has very invasive erythematous rosacea with lots of pimples, visible teleangiectasis and permanent red spots on cheeks. It started to attack her nose, chin and eyes. Her disease is much worst in compare with me, first signs appeared at the age of 1 year.  I never had visible teleangiectasis in childhood, first pink spots appeared when I was 14. I even do not have too many pimples or pustules. And when they appear, Metronidazol 1%cream helps me. But not to my daughter. I think I did not sleep well in last 2 years because I can see new disturbed area each month on her face. There is no other approved medication for Rosacea in our country (I live in Czech Rep.). My friend helped me to arrange Sulfacet-R Lotio in USA. I think it calmed her redness a little but was not able to stop creating of new inflammed spots, pimples never dissappeared. I tried  15% azelaic acid on myself but the stinging and itching was not acceptable without use of moisture cream before. Result was bad &#8211; more redness. But I think it can work on pustules when applied locally.<br />
I know the research of Ca.Dobesilate for Rosacea is still in the innitial phase but the case of my daughter is very tristful for our family. I can not wait next 10-20 years for new approved product for erythematous subtype. The fact that Mr. Cueavas offered Ca.Dobesilate cream for my daughter as well makes me think it probably is not toxic or too dangerous, also due to fact it can be taken orally by adults. To be honest I hoped he will do so, because in the patent is mentioned thy claim to use Ca. Dobes. on children too.<br />
Metronidazol used to be a subject of my first hope, but failed. This is my second hope and if it fails again I will have to start beleive our doctor who says : &#8220;There is no God for this disease&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Sophie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sophie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 16:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pavla,

Have you tried Noritate cream 1% (also known as Metronidazole 1%)?  This cream helps to reduce redness, tissue swelling and breakouts from rosacea.   Have used it and it definitely is very effective at controlling the symptoms of rosacea.   2 yrs of hot flashes have made my skin much worse and it now has spontaneous breakouts.

Intense Light Pulse and laser treatments can help reduce spider veins and excessive flushing.  Laser treatments are a bit rough I have been told.  ILP helped reduce spider veins in my face and has reduced flushing.  There is a risk of hyperpigmentation particularly with dark skin with both treatments.

The other possibility to consider is lifestyle.  Rosacea has triggers like alcohol, spicy food, heavy exercise, and stress.  Stress is one of the more subtle triggers that we don&#039;t tend to notice.  A diary noting when you have flare-ups might be useful in identifying what triggers you are susceptible to.  

Just some possibilities to consider.  There are lots of different treatment options for patients.   I know it&#039;s frustrating when a medication doesn&#039;t work but sometimes, you find a treatment that works best for you if you perservere.   

I once read about a lady who went through 19 different medications before she found one that worked for her depression.  The result of her persistence was greater quality of life.   So often as women, we look after others rather than giving ourselves the care we need.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pavla,</p>
<p>Have you tried Noritate cream 1% (also known as Metronidazole 1%)?  This cream helps to reduce redness, tissue swelling and breakouts from rosacea.   Have used it and it definitely is very effective at controlling the symptoms of rosacea.   2 yrs of hot flashes have made my skin much worse and it now has spontaneous breakouts.</p>
<p>Intense Light Pulse and laser treatments can help reduce spider veins and excessive flushing.  Laser treatments are a bit rough I have been told.  ILP helped reduce spider veins in my face and has reduced flushing.  There is a risk of hyperpigmentation particularly with dark skin with both treatments.</p>
<p>The other possibility to consider is lifestyle.  Rosacea has triggers like alcohol, spicy food, heavy exercise, and stress.  Stress is one of the more subtle triggers that we don&#8217;t tend to notice.  A diary noting when you have flare-ups might be useful in identifying what triggers you are susceptible to.  </p>
<p>Just some possibilities to consider.  There are lots of different treatment options for patients.   I know it&#8217;s frustrating when a medication doesn&#8217;t work but sometimes, you find a treatment that works best for you if you perservere.   </p>
<p>I once read about a lady who went through 19 different medications before she found one that worked for her depression.  The result of her persistence was greater quality of life.   So often as women, we look after others rather than giving ourselves the care we need.</p>
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		<title>By: Sophie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sophie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pavla,

The base that I used has reacted with the calcium dobesilate turning the cream pink after several days.  I decided to discontinue use after 1 week.  Have seen reduction in redness in cheek area.  Am currently experimenting with 4 other alternative bases (small amount mixed with calcium dobesilate; next to a sample of the base material for colour reference).

Did come across a pharmacy in Valetta that carries doxivenil cream and get.  Believe this is Valetta, capital of Malta.  

http://www.malpharma.com/Om.html

Doxivenil is manufactured by OM Pharma of Switzerland who also manufacture  Doxium (this is the product that I purchased in Nicaragua without a prescription) although I did not find Doxivenil on their website.  Their products are distributed throughout Europe, Central &amp; South America and Asia but not in North America.  Have come across several websites in Romania that reference Doxivenil.

http://www.ompharma.com/

Many seniors suffer from chronic veinous insufficiency, leg cramps, restless legs at night and varicose veins.  It may be easier to convince a doctor to prescribe doxivenil to such a patient and ask the patient to give you a small sample.    Chances are pretty good that you may have an elderly relative or a friend who knows someone suffering these symptoms.  Clinical trials show relief of oedema (swelling of legs), pain due to swelling, cramping etc., and good tolerance by patients. 

Given that the original experiment was conducted over a 2 week period with the patient using the product twice daily, and the symptoms had not returned 6 months later, it would seem likely that one could use the cream for 2 weeks and discontinue use until a flareup.   One has to assume that the way the product was used indicates that it would not be desirable to use the product habitually but as a periodic control.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pavla,</p>
<p>The base that I used has reacted with the calcium dobesilate turning the cream pink after several days.  I decided to discontinue use after 1 week.  Have seen reduction in redness in cheek area.  Am currently experimenting with 4 other alternative bases (small amount mixed with calcium dobesilate; next to a sample of the base material for colour reference).</p>
<p>Did come across a pharmacy in Valetta that carries doxivenil cream and get.  Believe this is Valetta, capital of Malta.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.malpharma.com/Om.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.malpharma.com/Om.html</a></p>
<p>Doxivenil is manufactured by OM Pharma of Switzerland who also manufacture  Doxium (this is the product that I purchased in Nicaragua without a prescription) although I did not find Doxivenil on their website.  Their products are distributed throughout Europe, Central &amp; South America and Asia but not in North America.  Have come across several websites in Romania that reference Doxivenil.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ompharma.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ompharma.com/</a></p>
<p>Many seniors suffer from chronic veinous insufficiency, leg cramps, restless legs at night and varicose veins.  It may be easier to convince a doctor to prescribe doxivenil to such a patient and ask the patient to give you a small sample.    Chances are pretty good that you may have an elderly relative or a friend who knows someone suffering these symptoms.  Clinical trials show relief of oedema (swelling of legs), pain due to swelling, cramping etc., and good tolerance by patients. </p>
<p>Given that the original experiment was conducted over a 2 week period with the patient using the product twice daily, and the symptoms had not returned 6 months later, it would seem likely that one could use the cream for 2 weeks and discontinue use until a flareup.   One has to assume that the way the product was used indicates that it would not be desirable to use the product habitually but as a periodic control.</p>
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		<title>By: Pavla</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pavla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 22:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sophie,
I am very excited your are already doing your test. That is what I am thinking about from the first moment. The only problem is to convince a doctor to issue a prescription because this drug is not available freely. As it looks now Doxium is available in our country but in hard form, so I have to travel abroad to purchase it.
I hope you inform your treating results soon.
Best Regards,
Pavla</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sophie,<br />
I am very excited your are already doing your test. That is what I am thinking about from the first moment. The only problem is to convince a doctor to issue a prescription because this drug is not available freely. As it looks now Doxium is available in our country but in hard form, so I have to travel abroad to purchase it.<br />
I hope you inform your treating results soon.<br />
Best Regards,<br />
Pavla</p>
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