Just in case anyone has missed the email over at rosacea-support; Linda Sy has been in contact to say that she is retiring and thus her web site and business is closing. Anyone who wants to stock up on their favourite products will need to order some now as they will no longer be available after the end of October, or as long as stock lasts.
This is the end of a great relationship between rosacea-support and Dr. Sy. It was through her involvement with rosacea sufferers and her expertise in formulating products that she was able to create ZincO Cream, Vita-Oil and her Mild Oatmeal facial cleanser.
I, for one, will really miss the tinted ZincO cream. I still use this every day, and have done for several years.
Thanks for all you have done for us rosacea sufferers Dr Sy. We wish you all the best for your retirement.
davidp.
[update:] Some of Linda Sy’s most popular products are available from RosaceaCare, see http://rosaceacare.com/orders/order.html#prod for more information.
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David,
Do you have any recommendations for a substitute for her Bar Soap for sensitive skin? I’ve emailed her as well.
Larry
Hi Larry,
The bar soap for dry skin lathers really well and I really liked it too. I currently use Cetaphil Gentle Skin Cleanser, it is very mild, but doesn’t lather and feel creamy like the bar soap. It is not a substitute, but that is what I have settled on at the moment.
davidp.
retirement? Her stuff was out for like 6 years… Wish my career could be that short.
Hi Ben,
The skincare products were only ever a side interest for Dr. Sy as a dermatologist. She created formulations for her patients and that grew into lindasy.com. Dr. Sy was part of the original email group I started in 1998.
The earliest reference I could find for her actually creating products specifically for us rosacea sufferers was in May 1999.
Dr. Sy retired as dermatologist several years ago and has kept her products going for those who really like them.
I also wish I could retire after 6 years working but that isn’t what is happening here
regards,
davidp.
I am quite distraught that Linda Sy is retiring. Their company no longer has the Oatmeal Cleanser which is perfect for me treating my rosacea. HELP …what do recommend as a substitute?
David,
Do you have any recommednation on a subsitute for tinted ZincO cream?
So far I don’t know of anything that I could recommend as a replacement, sadly. I will keep looking though. I did notice that the Cancer Foundation in Australia is now making tinted sunscreens and tinted moisturizers – not that they are necessarily low irritant, but it would be one place I would start. Are there big bodies like a cancer foundation where you live ? perhaps this is just an Australian thing because we have so much sun.
davidp.
I use vita oil, Zinc O and oatmeal cleaner. What now? These products were the only thing that works for my rosacea.
I can only suggest that Cetaphil Gentle Skin Cleanser and Moisturizer are worth trying for cleansing and moisturizing – and are easily available. As for a tinted zinc oxide based sunscreen, not sure yet.
davidp.
As soon as you find a replacement for Zinc O, can you let me know. It is the best sunscreen I have ever used and I am not sure how I am going to manage without it.
I’ve found that Olay’s 30 spf Complete Defence Sensitive as good as Zinc-O. It’s also a moisturiser
Those that are looking for something to replace Vita-Oil, you might be able to find a 100% Jojoba Oil, preservative free in small quantities at some kind of local health food store.
One page worth reading is Rosacea LifeStyle Treatments to Combat Rosacea from rosacea-ltd. It talks about Jojoba oil as part of their lifestyle tips.
davidp.
disclaimer: rosacea-ltd is a site sponsor of rosacea-support.org
hello, i was just about to make an order when i saw that LINDA SY has closed. i suffer from excema and i hope to GOD someone can tell me a product that can substitute the MOISTURIZING OIL for FACE AND BODY ? you know the one you put on when you get out the shower and your still wet.?.?.? that stuffed saved my life. i hope i can find a similar product !!!! please, anyone know ! God Bless !
To Lee:
Try Kerri oil. I understand your concern. I have rosacea and these products from Linda Sy were as close to a cure that I have found. I only have a little bit of Zinc O and vita oil left. I can’t use any sun screen with chemical components. They really make my skin raw. I have to use a mineral based “zinc” sunscreen. Zinc O was perfect. Now I am back to trial and error to find products that help. There are so few that really make a difference.
Ok Beth! thanks i will try it. and yes, there was nothing like Linda Sy products. i am upset that someone has not kept the line going. it’s not like there’s other options out there! i hear some pretty desperate people not wanting, but NEEDING some of these products. It is MEDICINE! We all have skin disorders and found “home” with these oils and creams. Taking years of trial and error to find them! How can u just stop distributing??? That ain’t right! God BLess
Yes, it is like medicine. If I go to a doctor they automatically want to put me on antibiotics for my rosacea. I don’t want to do that! I wish Linda Sy would have considered selling her business. At least we could have continued to purcase these products from another vendor.
I too am GREATLY disappointed to learn that Dr Sy discontinued her products and didn’t sell her business. For me, her combo moisture lotion and mild oatmeal cleanser were the best in the world. I found Aquanil to be the best cleanser substitute — Cetaphil was too harsh for my rosacea. Unfortunately, I’ve not found a good substitute for the moisture lotion that isn’t harsh nor the mild oatmeal cleanser. Perhaps if a bunch of rosacea people wrote Dr Sy and humbly begged her to do something about offering her products again, she might reconsider?
Hi
i can’t believe i can’t buy Linda Sy’s oatmeal cleanser i am now back to struggling to find a cleanser to use. I have just tried B kamins but that made me red and break out. Johoba oil good but I still get papsules
Getting desperate.
I wrote to Dr Sy on her website about my disappointment she’s no longer offering her products, but so far haven’t received anything beyond an automatic “your message has been forwarded” kind of thing. My Chinese herbal practitioner recommended taking uncooked oatmeal and grinding it into a fine powder, then mixing with water to a desired consistency and washing with it. I haven’t tried it yet, but I will. I highly recommend Aquanil for a substitute cleanser. It cleans my skin without being harsh, even takes off my mascara. Had a rosacea flareup in October after 4 years of clear skin. I returned to using Dr Zhongzhu’s “Z” ointment. Been nearly 4 weeks now and my skin is greatly improved.
I loved Linda Sy’s TINTED Zinc-0 cream.
As a man using this product for rosacea — this mineral filled 14.5% zinc oxide was the BEST!
I went to order more and saw that there was no more to be had.
WHY do all the great products — in this case, the ONLY product good for rosacea go away???
I went out and bought 5x different brands totalling $200…what a waste. None of these high end brands worked.
I look like a drag queen with an inch of make-up on.
What a waste.
DR SY– PLEASE bring your line back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I found some foundations with zinc and titanium but there are terrible.
Green based tinted zinc-o was the best.
Does anyone in this forum have some to sell?
BTW, Vichy, Clinique, Natural FX, MAC, COUVRANCE–
bought them all and NONE of them are good for my skin.
Is there anything out there???
Dr. Sy…PLEASE bring your line back!
Hi Brian,
You are definitely not the only person that feels like this. Linda does know that there are people that would just love for her products to still be available. Sadly how to make them still be available is a difficult task. As soon as, and if there is any information I’ll be sure to post it here.
davidp.
Hello David,
Thank you for your response. It took so many years to get my rosacea under control and when I found Linda Sy’s products, I was so happy that my trial and error period had come to and end and incorporated her WONDERFUL LINDA SY LINE to my regime.
With the small supply I do have left I have tried and looked around at so many stores and try to match up and no luck. I may have to try my own mix but with a limited background as a chemist…not a smart thing to do.
Maybe if more people would give Dr. Sy support for somehow bringing back her line, I would stock up for a lifetime of usage. She must still have so many followers that used the line as religiously as taking any medication.
There is no supplement for the genius of these goods.
I encourage people to post ideas, experiences and help us all. Hopefully Dr. Sy can outsource her name to a company that would take on these incredible products.
At this point it is easy to say what does not work.
I haven’t found what does work yet after so many years of usage and success.
Hopes are high for Dr. Sy to PLEASE offer your premium products — not all, just the ones that were your best sellers as you would always have a loyal following.
Which products will you miss most Brian ?
I have a VERY limited supply of Linda Sy products left from her final store closing. If anyone needs the following products, please contact me at btyler18@hotmail.com.
4 oz. moisture lotion for normal/combination skin
4 oz. recreational sunscreen SPF 30
4 oz. optimal light sunscreen SPF 15
2 oz. acne control gel
translucent light powder
concealing loose powder
souffle cream makeup SPF 15
liquid makeup sunscreen SPF 15 (Golden Medium and Golden Tan)
eye firming gel
Unfortunatley, I am sold out of the Oatmeal Cleanser and Vita-Oil.
The above products are all brand new, straight from the Linda Sy store. Stock up on what you need…they should last for years stored in a cool, dry place.
Rebecca
btyler18@hotmail.com
Zinc-o tinted and vita-oil as well as eye firming gel.
Acne cover is wonderful, too.
Looking at this situation from a business angle, why not make batches of certain products, not worry about the cost of labels/labeling and increase price 15-20%, make a minumum order requirement of 2-3 of each product?
Linda Sy, there is always a way. You have supporters here and to make this a proper business proposal, the above mentioned is a step in the right direction even if this means outsourcing.
Kindest regards.
I totally agree with brian. I am prepared to pay double for Linda Sy’s rosacea products – they have a healing effect on my skin and are irreplaceable. After all the effort to create the best products available for rosacea and make a real difference in the lifestyle of so many rosacea sufferers, it will be a real shame to throw everything to waste.
I am sure Linda Sy can find a way to continue her good work and profit from it.
I agree with Antoaneta.
I would pay double, buy requested minimal amounts made by Linda Sy as batches would be smaller.
DEMAND is there! The formula has been created and works! An outsourced factory has made it for years!
Why not make 4-6 of your best-selling products and you will truly profit from these sales and at the same time keep the line going for your supporters of many years.
Similiar products do not exist out there and only Linda Sy can bring this back.
Offer non-refundable polices and leave the glitz of packaging and brochures out of everything.
Cutting costs and raising prices and quantities would be totally acceptable by me and many other rosacea suffers I am sure.
Why not asked your dedicated users what they want and run a few batches???
I too would pay double for vita oil, oatmeal cleanser and zinc o. I have been out of oatmeal cleanser and tried Aveeno’s Ultra Calming Foaming Cleanser…. my skin is already cracked and flaking. When the vita oil and zinc 0 runs out I will be back to the red, raw, ,bumpy, cracked skin I had before I found Linda Sy’s products.
The way I see it is that demand is not the problem – we all know they are great products and have heard good reviews online from other rosacea sufferers.
The problem is with supply; finding someone to actually arrange the manufacture, pay for stock, maintain a web site, fulfill orders, deal with international postage issues, handle returns, find reliable staff, offer support and questions to clients all over the world – now that is not an easy task.
I love tinted zinco cream and am at a loss what to do now that my last tube is empty. I hope together we find a substitute or that Linda Sy brings it back.
In response to Lee’s Comment #13, I use Aveeno Bath and Shower oil for body moisturizing–love it too.
Minimum order qnty – 3 per product, no brochures included, double price of “star” products, drop products that did not sell, procure a batch qnty that will guarantee to sell, internet site is already there — that is half the work done.
cut out samples, customer service and be a straight–direct sales with no returns.
Your client base has been around long enough and trusts the products.
VERY SIMPLE to bring this line back and trim the fat that was there before.
Digital Davo makes it sound more difficult than it is–
use what you have but SIMPLIFY the service and it will be very profitable and easy!
I have the following Linda Sy products left. The retail prices are listed. If you buy more than one item, all are 25% off and the sunscreens are 50% off. I can accept paypal and will ship priority mail. Contact Rebecca at btyler18@hotmail.com.
4 oz. moisture lotion for normal/combination skin – $17
4 oz. recreational sunscreen SPF 30 – $24
4 oz. optimal light sunscreen SPF 15 – $20
2 oz. acne control gel – $23
translucent light powder – $21
concealing loose powder – $35
souffle cream medium – $28
liquid makeup sunscreen SPF 15 (Golden Medium and Golden Tan) – $27
eye firming gel – $40
Hi guys just reading all of your comments. I didn’t know she was closing shop so I couldn’t stock up. I am very disappointed just like every one else & I don’t see much of a future without my Zinco. If Dr Sy requires someone to run the business I will do it – just give me access to the products & so long as I can draw an income I would quit my job & take it on. Is anyone with me on this? I have also emailed with no response. David Pascoe – if you can get in touch with Dr Sy or if Dr Sy is reading any of our desperate plea’s – PLEASE consider this option. People are desperate & for a while I had my life back. I don’t see anything ahead except misery. There is a new sunblock on the Australian market called ‘Invisible Zinc’ – using micronised zinc like the Zinco but other ingredients as well so I don’t know if I should try it. Has anyone tried this new product?
Thanks – David C.
Dr. Sy has been and continues looking for someone to take on the business. It has not been an easy task.
I have tried Invisible Zinc as promoted by Megan Gale. I didn’t like it as it is oily and doesn’t rub in like you would expect for something that is marketed as invisible.
davidp.
Thanks for your reply David. I am sure it would not be an easy task. Disappointed to hear about your bad experience with the invisible Zinc. How many days did you use it for & did you suffer any adverse effects?
I was thinking about Amazon.com – I am sure this company would take it on – especially if the profits were good – forget double, I would pay triple for the ZincO. I wish I could run the business but with little experience I would need help – but if I had the help I would be in.
Do you know if she has appraoched amazon?
Many thanks for your quick response.
Thanks – David C.
I have just finished my last tube of tinted ZincO and now I am in need desperate need of more. I have tried to replace ZincO with Invisible Zinc Tinted Daywear by Ganehill – it is not as good as toning down the redness as ZincO is and is also more noticable (looks like make-u) – being a male this doesn’t work very well at all.
Let’s hope that tinted ZincO is available again soon!
Cheers,
M
I wonder if Dr Sy would just be interested in starting up again just for 3 months or so which would allow us to stock up for a couple of years at which time someone would probably take over the running of it.
Mark – disappointed with your experience of invisible zinc – I was thinking it could be a possible replacement. I live in NSW & from what I remember as a kid pharmacies used to sell tinted zinc as well as the white zinc. I was thinking maybe I would try & find some & mix it with my moisturiser to make it easier to apply. If I have any success I will let everyone know.
Also those needing a replacement for the vita -oil I use blackmore’s vit e capsules – 250 IU – leave them on a paper towel for a day to soften them up then fill up your vita oil bottle – I have been doing this for years. Get yourself a large needle which I wash with soap & wash my hands thoroughly as well then get each capsule prick a small hole into it & squeeze it into the bottle. Vit e is an inflammatory agent – works great for me. BUT Dr Sy – please consider starting up again until you find someone to take over. You deserve to enjoy your retirement – no question about that & you have given us our lives back – please don’t take that away. I think we are all here for a purpose – your’s was to help rosacea sufferers – I truly believe that.
David.
Hello David,
I agree with everything you wrote.
After hundereds of dollars wasted trying every darn cream I could find (tinted moisturizer), I finally found a product my a skin specialist in Toronto.
I checked the drug facts and very similar to Linda Sy.
I may have finally found a replacement for Zinc-O tinted.
Give me a few days to get this info in details for you.
I tried the sample and it was even more hydrating than Linda’s and high micro zinc oxide and titanium oxide.
PERFECT for rosacea or sensitive skin.
So HAPPY to have it under control again.
I will post in 2 days.
Brian
If someone where interested in taking over Linda Sy to sell select products (star products) from her site,
how can I contact Linda as I would be very interested in being a sole investor for this business.
Thank you.
Hi Brian – that sounds great! problem is getting in contact with Dr Sy. maybe David P can assist with that – maybe pass on the message. I have contacted Amazon.com to see if they would be interested – still waiting for a reply.
David C
Comment from David Catalano via email.
Hi Brian – thanks for your email. That is great news. I have decided to be proactive as well. I contacted a ‘compounding chemist’ emailed her all the ingredients & she told me she could make up the cream for me – only one draw back $300 for 100ml (slightly more than 3 oz.) but $150 for the next tube & every tube after that. This is Australian dollars that is. I live in Sydney. So, looks like I can pretty much get the same product but if you have found something already made that will work great for you then that is fantastic. I will see how I get on with my pharmacist (won’t be until next year – mid January) then I can let everyone know – maybe your cream or going to a compound chemist might be a solution for us all. Looking forward to hearing from you & your experience with your new cream.
Keep in touch.
Best wishes.
David.
Hello David,
I was able to do a lot of searching and by trial and error found a product (used the sample first) from Toronto.
I LOVE it.
It is the same or even better that tinted Zinc-O.
When you breakdown the ingredients, you have to look for a high micornized zinc oxide (over 8%)
Titanium oxide (over 6%) this is usually the end with most high end TINTED moisturizers.
The other ingredients are what we call “fillers” or “binders” in pharmacology and can vary.
I have ordered 4x tubes as I love this new product from a skin specialist in Toronto at $60.00CAD a tube. (3 oz)
Compound pharmacists are great but expensive as you can see.
I used this in Toronto at -11C over a week ago and worked great and flew a １３ hour flight with it and no staining or not noticeable at all but really hid any redness.
This skin specialist is based in Toronto and will soon open her online shopping.
I wish Linda Sy would sell her operation to an honest retailer online but that doesn’t seem like the case.
I will keep you updated.
Regards!
Compound pharmacies are great but can run expensive.
I found a skin tech in Toronto, tried the sample and love it.
Look for high zinc oxide, high titanium oxide and tinted.
The rest of the ingredients are fillers and binders but active ingredients listed above are most important.
I will let you know how I like it but I have already used it and LOVE it.
Seems 2 of my posts were not stated on here for whatever reason.
Just trying to help other rosaceans like myself.
If Linda Sy will not make product, we as rosaceans can’t wait and have to find what works by trial and error and expense and share that info.
My product which I bought in Toronto was $60 for 3oz and I am VERY happy with it.
Brian,
Let us know as soon as you can about the replacement product for Zinc 0, how to order, price, etc. Has anyone found an oatmeal cleaner similar to what Linda Sy offered?
I sincerely appreciate everyone’s input on hopefully finding comparable Linda Sy products. Wouldn’t it be wonderful for a reputable someone to take over her line for us all? Yes, PLEASE, if someone finds a suitable replacement for Dr Sy’s oatmeal cleanser please be sure and tell us. I, for one, would be MOST grateful. This morning, unfortunately, found me down to the almost very last bit left in my bottle. After that … GONE!
via email I received a link to an interesting looking zinc oxide product.
Margarite Cosmetics, Zinc Cream, Maximum Strength Mineral Formula, 1 oz (28 g)
I have no idea whether it contains micronized zinc oxide or not or whether it is irritating to rosacea sufferers or not – just passing the link on.
davidp.
Just went to reorder another tube of Zinco (tinted), the only cream that has ever help toned down my redness without looking ridiculous. To find it is no longer available is terrible news, I don’t know what to do now.
There are some Linda Sy products listed on eBay right now:
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=linda+sy
Hi everyone – looks like Brian has found a product that will help us. Let’s be patient & see how he goes with it. Don’t know a replacement for the oatmeal cleanser – again, maybe a compound chemist can make one up for those that use this. I just use cetaphil bar soap – very gentle being a non soap & works great for me.
Just wanted to share my experiences with everyone. The years 1998-2001 were hell. Then I found a Dr that does laser treatments. I was terrified when he showed me pictures of some of his other patients, but I thought that it was do or die.
I had the treatment – he used a Pulse Dye Laser. My face swelled like a balloon & I looked horrific – but after a month – 6 weeks everything was gone. No more capilleries or redness. Then I did something stupid – because on some people laser can leave a bit of pigmentation (which does eventually go away) I wanted to get rid of it so I had 5 microdermabrasion treatments – what a fool! So I started to flush again so I had another laser treatment, & then I tried the v-beam as well – didn’t like v-beam as it took ages for my skin to heal & I didn’t like the result.
So I eventually went back to my first Dr for 1 more Pulse Dye Laser treatment – it has worked for me. I don’t have any capilleries or redness & I only flare up because of my allergies (despite taking Zyrtec) I am producing too much histamine. I also flare up if I eat the wrong foods. ALSO when it gets really hot – say above 27 degrees celsius & obviously I don’t stay in the sun even with the ZincO.
That’s my story. I use the cetaphil soap to shave & I use Zinco everyday. I just wanted to share this with you in case some of you were thinking of having any Laser treatment. I am happy to provide any one who lives in NSW with my practitioner’s name or to those overseas any questions you have I would be happy to answer them. Laser really did give me back my life.
Let’s keep praying that Linda Sy will bring back her products & let’s support Brian who may have found a solution for us.
Regards
David C.
Hi Brian,
I am wondering where in Toronto you got your product. I live in Toronto and would be very glad to know where I might get a Zinco replacement.
Many thanks,
Rebekah
(Hello.
Just so there is no misunderstanding,
Dr. Sy sent me this email and I thought it best to post to the group as it concerns every sufferer of rosacea.
Brian)
Dear Linda Sy Customers,
I have been out of the country since the company closed and upon my return, I was very disheartened to find so many emails asking about substitute products that I can recommend. Many of you also asked to be updated should Linda Sy products become available again.
We tried to inform and prepare as many of our customers as possible about our closing so that they can stock up on products. However, it appears that you were among those whose notification fell through the cracks. I am sorry for the hardship this has caused you.
Unfortunately, I am not aware of products similar to our ZincO (Tinted & Untinted), Vita-Oil, Moisturizing Oil and Oatmeal Cleanser. Most likely, such products may be available on the market but I am not personally aware of them. Perhaps you can ask your dermatologist to give you recommendations.
It is my plan to make Linda Sy products available again through another company. When that happens, you are on our list of those who will be notified.
Finally, thank you for your support through the years and I wish you a healthy and peaceful 2009 to come!
Sincerely,
Linda Sy
Hello Rebekah,
I am using the 3oz tube now and love it.
I have asked the skin technician in Toronto when her tinted “zincO” will be ready for public sale and fingers crossed the website will be done by the beginning of 2009.
I can tell you the product is 9% micronized zinc oxide and 7% titanium oxide slightly tinted.
I use a Clinique deep colored spf bronzer to balance it out to the color I like.
I must say it has been great for cold windy days and also 16C days due to the toco E added as well as olive oil.
In the meantime I would suggest using SUN BLOCK 40SPF by Clinique that is tinted as well as buying a zinc based bronzer — 2 tubes but that is what I used prior to this Toronto product.
Hides red, keeps inflammation down and you do get both your UVA (skin ageing) and UVB (sunburn) protection.
I also use a Vit C based oil or shea butter to keep skin very soft during cold days.
This has worked for me and hopefully many others!
Sorry, forget to mention the added Clinique product of which I will use with my new Toronto product.
ALMOST MAKEUP spf 15, 45ml, 04 DEEP
I got mine on Bloor W at Holt Renfrew.
Sorry again, it was SUPER CITY BLOCK SPF 40 as the other product I was using prior to this Toronto one.
Yea!!! Dr Sy contacted us! Maybe 2009 will be a better year for all of us and our faces if she is able to make her products available again. It’s tough to be so well loved, you know?!
Thank you Dr sy for getting in contact with the group. I’m sure we appreciate all your work & we hope that you will be able to find a company to assist us with our orders as soon as possible. Please don’t stop trying. Have you contacted Amazon.Com at all?
Regards
David C.
Thanks Brian,
That’s very helpful and tell your dermatologist we are all eagerly awaiting his/her website!
Again. many thanks.
Rebekah
Have to agree with JON, it was pretty unkind to not make more people aware of her situation. A lot of good work has been undone in my eyes. These products do not have any like substitutes that we can change to. It’s all well and good to say she is looking for someone to carry on the products, that should have been done before she retired. Her products won’t be back in my eyes and that’s really sad and frustrating for us who only had these products to “save our lives”.
Hi Jon,
From the cache of the web site I can see:
cleansing bar for dry skin, 99 gms.
Yes, a soap for sensitive skin! Our French-milled superfatted soap lubricates while it cleanses your skin. It is so gentle that we recommend this bar for cleansing new skin after laser surgery.
Sodium palmate, sodium cocoate, water, rice bran oil, glycerin, sunflower oil, kukui nut oil, sodium astrocaryum murumuruate, sodium chloride, pentasodium pentetate, tetrasodium etidronate.
I couldn’t find Bar Soap for Normal Skin – perhaps it was the bar for dry skin as listed above ?
hope this helps.
davidp.
OK after a bit more digging here you go;
cleansing bar for normal/oily, $8.50, 99 gms.
Our unscented facial bar washes off oil and makeup residue effectively, leaving skin fresh, clean and smooth without feeling tight. It is recommended for those with normal to oily skin. This bar is hard-milled to last for months. Pamper your skin.
ingredients: Sodium palmate, sodium cocoate, water, glycerin, olive oil, titanium dioxide, sodium astrocaryum murumuruate, sodium chloride, pentasodium pentetate, tetrasodium etidronate.
From the internet archive: cleansing bar for normal/oily
davidp.
Regarding ZincO.
At this time I would say that Clinique “Barely Make-up” SPF 15 is ok but I can’t reveal the other product yet made by a Toronto Skin specialist.
Another great idea is to go to your pharmacist with your tube and see how close these compound chemists can copy it.
I have been using the lindasy acne cover lotion for over 10 years–I have called around & obviously have not found it–is there anyone out there that has some left? I’m hoping to see the products return soon…
For sunscreen, I use Trader Joes Store Brand- it has zinc oxide and never irritates my skin and protects it from the elements. Only $3.99.
I have put a poll up to gauge interest in which Linda Sy products are most wanted. The poll results might even help a new supplier be able to sell her products again.
Please vote here: Vote for your most wanted Linda Sy product.
davidp.
Thanks Digital Davo for the poll and news that some Linda Sy products may become available online again at some point. Keep us informed, good luck.
I would have thought there would have been “some word” or a buyer for Linda Sy products by now…
Looks like we all work with compound chemists and back to trial and error.
I have solved the ZincO and Vita-oil problem but started using a 10% sulfur based soap I buy when I am in Asia to fight the rosacea acne.
IPL with a great skin specialist in Toronto has won 80% of the battle as well as staying out of the sun!
Hi Brian,
Have you voted in the poll for your most wanted product ?
http://rosacea-support.org/vote-for-your-most-wanted-linda-sy-product.html
As I said in the post, no promises come with the vote results, but it might well influence how things eventuate from here.
davidp.
Hi brian,
May I ask how you solved the zinco and vita oil problem? Are you using another product similiar or are you just making your own?
thanks,
cherie’
Digital Davo – just wanted to say thank you for all the great work you do for us Rosacea sufferers – I am only new to the group but it is quite obvious that you put in a lot of time to help everybody.
I think the Lynda Sy product poll is a fantastic idea & here’s hoping someone will take over & make the products available soon.
Again many thanks.
David C
Hey Cherie,
I use Vivier CE KINEROL as a replacement for Vita-oil and I use a product from a skin specialist on Avenue Rd in Toronto but on top of that to give it a bit of a darker tint, I use Clinique “Almost Make-up” #04 DEEP
Took a lot of time and was not easy but I have my solutions. I was recently in South America (35C) with a very hot sun. Used the Avenue Rd “zinc0″ 40 SPF and was outside for 7 hours — no sunburn at all!!!
Yet, I was using normal sunblocker by VICHY SPF 60 for my neck and arms (missed spot around watch area) it was a bright red and just started pealing today.
I can say that the Avenue Rd spf 40 protected me from ALL sunburn that day and it was a tinted zinc oxide cream!
Thanks for the info. Brian. That is so great that you found the solution for yourself. I am very happy for you.
Thanks again,
Cherie’
Hi Brian – very interested to hear about your experience with the Avenue Rd SPF 40. Is it available online? If so how much is it & any chance that you can list the ingredients?
Many thanks.
Regards
David C
I have the following Linda Sy products left. All prices listed are discounted up to 50% off of retail. I can accept paypal and ship priority mail.
4 oz. moisture lotion for normal/combination skin – $13
4 oz. recreational sunscreen SPF 30 – $12
4 oz. optimal light sunscreen SPF 15 – $15
2 oz. acne control gel – $20 (only a few left)
translucent light powder – SOLD OUT
concealing loose powder – $25
souffle cream medium – $25 (only a few left)
liquid makeup sunscreen SPF 15 Golden Med -SOLD OUT
liquid makeup sunscreen SPF 15 Golden Tan – $20
eye firming gel – $25
kabuki brushes – $7
Contact: Rebecca at btyler18@hotmail.com.
I am broken hearted LindaSy is closing. At 60 years of age 40 of those were spent with the misery of rosacea, I thought it was acne, at the time, then I learned it was the big R. I learned about LindaSy from a dermatologist in Redding over twenty years ago and have used it to this day, but I was not informed about the closure. I called the 1-877 number and received the recording in January. HELP! I consider Optimal Light SPF 15 my life saver I use it every day after Oxy Daily Wash.
Hi there – I’m leaving for Mexico in a few weeks and just went to the Linda Sy site to order a new tube of tinted ZincO… I’m devastated. I’ve tried other “off the shelf” sunscreens (Ombrelle, etc.) and they cause instant flare ups and no protection. My main problem is flushing and my biggest trigger is the sun or light/heat on my face so coverage/barrier is key. Has anyone tried the Rosacea Care line sunscreen? How about the Rosacea Care concealer powder, I’m thinking perhaps these two things in concert might be an alternative. How about La Roche-Posay Anthelios XL tinted creme ? Or MINUS-SOL SPF 30 (IVORY)? Rosasol? Arubix ? I’m grasping….
I’m in Canada as well so am very interested in that TO solution… any more info there? In the meantime, if anyone has a tube of tinted ZincO they’d like to part with please let me know.
Just a note that I will be shortly closing the poll over at
Vote for your most wanted Linda Sy product
please vote if you haven’t already done so.
davidp.
I just found out last night when I went to place my order that Linda Sy is out of business. Like many of you, I am in panic mode right now. I use the products due to severe allergies.
There are some products that I have in the sample sizes that I never used. I have a sample size of Vita Oil, tinted zinco cream, and protective cream. If used sparingly, they might get people thru a month or so. I am willing to send these to people that are looking for them. Contact me at rachelzmail01@gmail.com.
I am looking for the moisture lotion. Preferrably for dry skin, but the normal skin one will do. I am also looking for the liquid makeup sunscreen, (golden light). If anybody knows how I can get these please let me know.
Thanks.
I have 1 bottle of Toleriane Dermo-Cleanser that’s never been used. It’s well tolerated by Rosacea and sensitive skin.
Retail is $19.50. If anyone wants to try this brand, it would be $10 including shipping.
I don’t need the cleanser, but for others here — I can highly recommend the Tolerane Dermo-Cleanser. I used it with great success for 2 years while I was in treatment for rosacea through diet, nutrition and Chinese herbs. The Dermo-Cleanser was about the only topical wash my skin could tolerate at the time, next to cotton ball with water! Hope this helps.
I usually buy enough to last me a while so I JUST found out that Linda Sy is no longer available and I’m SO dissappointed. I LOVE the Oatmeal facial cleanser. Like others in the post I would gladly pay double. Hope it works out.
Amazon.com is listing Linda Sy products; however it states: “Currently unavailable. We don’t know when or if this item will be back in stock.”
Does anyone know if Amazon previously sold Linda Sy items or do you think they are HOPEFULLY getting ready to sell them?
For what it’s worth I went ahead and left a nice customer review for “Flesh-tinted ZincO Cream, SPF 20 – 3 oz.”
As far as I know Amazon.com was never an official outlet for her products.
It is interesting to continue to hear from users of her products that are just surfacing to re-supply and discovering that her site is offline. There are a lot of happy Linda Sy customers out there !
Hi – Has anyone tried Avene products?
http://www.aveneusa.com/
I got a tester of their sunscreen, doesn’t have as high a concentration of zinc as ZincO, but it also doesn’t seem to provoke any instant irritation the way other barrier sunscreens do either… I’ll give it a few days and report back in, they seem to have a whole line of products geared to rosaceans…
And I’m still wondering if anyone has tried the Rosacea Care line? Any good?
I just went to oder from lindasy and I’m in a panic that she is out of business.
I usually order a six month supply of her bar soap for normal skin, oil for face and body, and recreational sunscreen. Using her products you would never know I have rosacea.
Now what am I going to do, I don’t know.
Does anyone know if she is going to come back? Or know of any alternatives to the products I used from lindasy?
These were really compatibale with my skin and I’ve tried nearly everything.
Hi Brian,
Wondering about the status of the Avenue Road Zinco Cream replacement. Any news?
Many thanks,
Rebekah
I went to the Linda Sy website and clicked on dispensing locations. On the list there was a dermatologist’s office in my town. Fortunately they had four tubes left of the tinted Zinco.
So if you are in need of Linda Sy products, check with the dispensing locations and maybe you’ll be lucky too!
Has anyone tried a product called Quintessence Sunshade? It’s a Tinted Zinc Oxide Sunscreen SPF 30. It comes in 4 different tints and untinted.
I was wondering how it compares to Zinco.
Linda,
Does your dispensing location have bar soap for normal skin?
Hi Linda – did you purchase all 4 of those tubes? Would you be interested in selling one?
I just ordered la rocha tolerine gentle bar soap. I also ordered a sample of vanicream bar soap. I’m hoping one of them will work as a replacement for my lindasy bar soap for normal skin. I’ll keep you guys posted.
Also, I’m trying lysine, 1000 mg each day at bedtime. I’ve heard on some rosacea forums that it was helpful. I’ll let you know if that does any good; I’m going to give it a month test.
Any word on whether this other company is going to distribute any of lindasy’s products?
Has anyone called her directly to see if they can purchase her company?
I would be willing to try and get her personal number if this would interest someone and they had the funds to pursue.
It seems like a no brainer business and I don’t understand why she would quit. It seems it would pretty much run on autopilot with her dedicated customer base.
Bob – funny you would mention the Lysine, I also just started on it a couple of days ago – but I am going with a more agressive 3000 mg daily.
I’ll report back in as well – also, I’m having no reactions (2 days) with a self blended combination of Avene 50 spf and Toleriane Sand beige corrective fluid foundation. Only problem is, it goes on very thickly and getting it off at the end of the day might be a problem for those who can’t tolerate any rubbing on your skin. I am using Cetaphil on a baby facecloth with lukewarm water.
Even if Linda Sy went out of business, if we could just find out who her manufacturer was perhaps we could appeal to them directly to make a last run of the most popular products.
Hi Bob,
The Avene 50 is that a zinc based product?
As for the Cetaphil it makes my skin flake. I am trying a new facial cleanser and will report on it to all if I have no reaction.
One other thing that you may not believe. I read recently that if you use Milk of Magnesia and rub it gently on your face (like a lotion) and rinse it off that it would help with flaking and redness. I tried it on one side of my face and I have to say it really works. Now I use it every night. After I wash my face and while it is still wet I rub just a little Milk of Magnesia (pour it right from the bottle in my hand) all over my face and rinse. Then I moisturize as usual. I think it really helps!
“It is my plan to make Linda Sy products available again through another company. When that happens, you are on our list of those who will be notified.” [Linda Sy quote above]
I hope she means make available ALL of her products not just zinco and oatmeal cleanser, as great as those have been for some people. Both of these products aggravated my skin. I’m sure it’s like this for a lot of people with rosacea, it can be hit or miss, as everyone’s biology is different.
I think it’s kinda of wrong if she doesn’t bring our “medicine” back.
We have a disease, and it’s just as valid as anything else. Linda Sy are you listening ?? !!!
Bob has tried la rocha tolerine gentle bar soap.
It didn’t work at all–be warned rosaceans.
I’m still waiting on my vanicream sample but I don’t have much faith left.
Maybe I’ll just use water and stink like rotten cheese but maybe my face won’t be red.
I was able to do a lot of searching and by trial and error found a product (used the sample first) from Toronto.
I LOVE it.
It is the same or even better that tinted Zinc-O.
When you breakdown the ingredients, you have to look for a high micornized zinc oxide (over 8%)
Titanium oxide (over 6%) this is usually the end with most high end TINTED moisturizers.
The other ingredients are what we call “fillers” or “binders” in pharmacology and can vary.
I have ordered 4x tubes as I love this new product from a skin specialist in Toronto at $60.00CAD a tube. (3 oz)
Compound pharmacists are great but expensive as you can see
RE: The above post by Brian………….does anyone know what this product is called please ?
Hi Beth Lee – yes the Avene is zinc based about 6 % and slightly tinted, a little pinkish for me, but blending it with the Toleriane corrective fluid makes it the right colour. Unfortunately it also has titanium dioxide though, so if that’s a trigger for you, beware – but so far no flares and I’ve been using it for a week… Also, seem to be having reasonable results with the Dermaglow Intensive moisturizer.
Digital Davo – re your post dated 31 January regarding more people emerging trying to purchase the Linda Sy products. I was wondering if you could pass this info on to whoever is looking at maybe bringing the products back. Maybe just let them know that the poll is just a small sample & many more people out there will possibly continue to emerge when they run out of their stash.
Just a thought.
Will chemist’s in your country make soap? Or do you know of a company who will make a custom made soap?
Has anyone tried this: http://www.mexitancanada.com This is their main ingredient:
“Mexitan SPF 50 contains 22.5% zinc oxide and 6% titanium dioxide. As with all sunscreen lotions, re-apply frequently and after swimming, perspiring, or towel-drying. The titanium dioxide and zinc oxide used in Mexitan is micronized. This allows our sunscreen lotions to be more cosmetically appealing, compared to coarser particles. The protection is less visible, yet remains on the skin’s surface.”
I tried vanicream bar soap recently and vanicream shave cream.
The shave cream worked great for me. The bar soap worked good; not as good as lindasy but it will be adaquate, I think, until hopefully she comes back online with ALL her products.
My plan is to shave with the shave cream every third day, wash my body only with the bar soap, and wash my face with a wet cotton ball with purified water. This should do minimal irritation to my face. (crossing my fingers)
For those of you interested you can get vanicream products at:
http://www.psico.com/
At this website I ordered samples of vanicream bar soap, vanicream shave cream, and sport sunblock. (As of yet, I haven’t tried the sunblock; I’ll report back).
THE SAMPLES WERE FREE–THEY EVEN PAID SHIPPING–SO WHAT CAN IT HURT–YOU MAY AS WELL GIVE THEM A SHOT IF YOU THINK THEY MIGHT BE A LINDASY REPLACEMENT FOR U!!! Good luck!
Finally, a better replacement for Zinc-O!
I purchased 4 tubes and love this formula.
As it has a moisturizer in it, I have found no need for oil during this dry winter.
I love it and it covers redness it both hot and cold and looks natural…looks like I have great skin once again!
THANK YOU!!! After searching for a replacement, I have it!
btw, I found the site to order at;
http://sites.google.com/site/avenueskinforrosaceans/spf-protective-products-tinted-and-non-tinted
I just went to this web site got the phone number and called Susan Shirriff. She is so nice and really wants to help! I feel really encouraged that she will work to replace the products we need.
Bth/Brian – Went to the website & had a look – one of the ingredients is retinol – that’s what gave me Rosacea in the first place. This is an odd ingredient for rosacea sufferers?
Digital Davo – what’s your thoughts on this?
Hi David, I think retinol can be an ok ingredient in small concentration. It is found in some preparations for rosacea sufferers. It would be worth exercising care though. Lathering on a retinol cream is probably not a good idea for many rosacea sufferers though.
Digital Davo – I have to agree. Please be careful anyone who tries this cream – like I said earlier Retinol gave me this problem in the first place.
Still hoping Dr Sy’s products will become available again. If not I will be going to a compounding Chemist. I haven’t given up hope yet.
Rosacea Care have made an announcement via this blog ;
See
ZincO, Vita-Oil and Oatmeal Cleanser available again soon
davidp.
man they gotta do the MOISTURIZING OIL FOR FACE AND BODY too!!! Please !!!!
FABULOUS. This news absolutely makes my whole year!!!!! To be able to have the oatmeal cleanser again is as close to heaven as we can get, without actually being there! Thanks to everybody involved in making this happen!!!!
Small amounts of retinol used is designed to vigorously treat photodamaged rosacean skin. It is appropriate for maximal retinol therapy and is particularly helpful for those wishing to thicken/plump skin without redness and reduce inflammation.
Digital Davo – do you know what the shelf life of the Zinco is? I found half a tube that I must have forgotten was there but it is at least 18 mths old.
many thanks
David.
Not sure what the official shelf life is, but I have had quite old tubes that were runny. If I mixed a fair bit up in my hand it would get a reasonable consistency again. I did ask Linda once whether keeping it in the fridge would extend it’s life and she said that a cool cupboard was better than the cold of a fridge.
There is no shelf-life per say but you will find that after 6-9 months the binder that holds the tit ox and zinc ox will separate.
You end up with a wet color and a white paste.
Just open tube and put in jar and mix yourself.
Paraban free UV sunscreens have no real shelf-life.
This is a ploy to buy more as most people only use sun protection on holidays.
One more note: Why would one member here even think of micro derma with rosacean skin??? What kind of doc would even allow that to be done on you?
You have thinned your skin and are even more prone to redness.
IPL works! Micro derma is NOT for Rosaceans!
BTW, my co-worker analyzed ZincO weeks ago and there was 1.3% green retional in the tinted version.
I used it on my eyelids and around my mouth for years and no problem.
I am happy now with my Avenue Skin product!
My problems are solved!
Digital Davo & Brian – Thank you so much for your response. Very helpful & informative. With this half tube I should be able to get by until the ZincO becomes available again.
Best wishes
David.
I am squeaking by on Linda Sy products until they are available again. I CAN’T WAIT!
Question: Does anyone recommend any mascara? I have ocular symptoms from time to time, but would still like to try to look my best.
Hi all – just wanted to report that I just spent a flare up free week in the south with the combination of Rosacea Care sunscreen, Avene 50 spf, Toleriane foundation and Cover F/X pressed powder. Not one flare up – of course, hats and shade helped as well, but there is life without Zinco! Also – have been using Dermaglow sensitive moisturizer for the last 3 weeks with excellent results. My formula – cetaphil cleanser, then a base of Rosacea Care sunscreen. Let dry. Then mix some Avene 50 lotion or creme depending on your skin tone with some Toleriane foundation (again, buy your tone). Finish up with a sprinkle of Cover F/X powder (mineral based, originally formulated for burn victims) – I didn’t look like I was wearing a ton of makeup, I was protected from sun and wind and not a single flare up. Not the simple, one step Zinco solution – but a solution none the less. Washing with Cetaphil, and a baby facecloth, then slathering on the Dermaglow. If anyone needs more info, feel free to contact me.
Is there anyplace that still carrie these products?? I have never found anything else that consistently works.
I have listed all my remaining Linda Sy products on eBay.
It doesn’t look like any of these products will be made again in the future, so get what you need while they’re still available.
If you have any questions, please e-mail me at btyler18@hotmail.com.
Rebecca
Here is a list of what’s available on eBay:
moisture lotion for normal/combination skin
recreational sunscreen SPF 30
optimal light sunscreen SPF 15
acne control gel
concealing loose powder
liquid makeup sunscreen SPF 15 Golden Tan
souffle cream medium
eye firming gel
kabuki brushes
Hi all,
Like so many others I was devastated when I found out that the Linda Sy products had come to an end. I’m 24 and have been dealing with Rosacea since I was 19 – for the past 3 years I have used the Linda Sy products and they really have made my life so much more comfortable – Guessing you can relate to this.
I’m delighted to hear they are now returning through Rosacea Care, I just hope they will ship to the UK like linda did?
I have two tubes of Tinted ZincO left so hoping this gets me through until they are on sale again. I have been using the Cetaphil moisturiser and cleanser on David’s advice and they have been ok so far I think.
Cheers
Graeme
It doesn’t sound like much is happening with the takeover of LSy.
RCare should make a public announcement.
I found my replacement but feel for the rest of you!
Hi Brian,
Rosacea Care made an announcement just a few days ago ; ZincO, Vita-Oil and Oatmeal Cleanser available again soon
davidp.
Great news indeed for the coming Spring! Looks like we’ll soon be seeing happy people (and faces) again with the return of some of our most beloved Linda Sy products. Can’t happen soon enough for me!
Thank you so much for bringing us the great news that once again we will be able to purchase our favorite Linda Sy products. During the past several months I spent time trying to find alternatives. In my estimation, none can compare. I am thrilled!
Which products will be available again?
is tinted zinco natural for a guy?
Tinted zinco is natural for a guy, I’ve been using it since 2003. Nobody knew that I was wearing tinted zinco if I didn’t mention it.
Any chance of getting the face soaps again!?
As a guy I love the Avenueskin care replacement for tinted ZincO.
Natural and I have loved using it for months now.
Rosacea Care says they are going to make a product but if it contains willowherb as the main ingredient — not interested.
Micronized Zinc Oxide and Titanium Oxide are the key ingredients.
I am very happy that after trial and error I have my new product!
http://sites.google.com/site/avenueskinforrosaceans/spf-protective-products-tinted-and-non-tinted
There are 2 OATMEAL CLEANSERS listed on eBay right now.
Does anyone know what the new price will be with Rosacea Care or when they’ll be available?
I’m a Linda Sy product fan as well and can’t wait for these products to be available again with Rosacea Care.
As a backup I’ve looked at the Avenue skin site and their products seem quite expensive. At least double what you’d pay for the same size Tinted Zinco.
I realize the shipping is included but is it just me or does it still seem a little pricey?
In my search for a replacement I also found “Green Screen Organic Sunscreen – Skintone tinted”. I ordered a trial size and it helps to keep the redness down but it’s a little greasy, seems to separate easily, and even though it was tinted the colour was a little light for me. What I did like was that the zinc oxide wasn’t micronized, just really fine and easy to work with. For those that are concerned about absorbing micronized zinc this seems to be a pretty good alternative. See the website below:
http://www.kabanaskincare.com/index.php
As a side issue, one thing that helped me initially when I first realized I had Rosacea (almost 15 years ago) was taking a digestive enzyme. This was before I discovered Micronized Zinc Oxide and it really made a difference.
Another thing I’m going to look at is Seabuckthorn oil, to take both externally and internally. Has anyone had success with this?
That’s my 2 cents, thanks for listening!
Hi Brian – just wondering about your comment about Rosacea Care making a product containg willowherb – is this a product separate from the ‘Original’ ZincO they are bringing back? The media release states that the product will be identical to the Linda Sy product?
Thanks
David.
Brian, your last two posts are puzzling. In the first you say “It doesn’t sound like much is happening with the takeover of LSy”……….yet a public announcement has been made clearly on this thread and others and this was made well before your posting……….Secondly, you indicate that “maybe” the ingredients for the new products will not be the same although it has been made clear they will be exactly the same and produced by the same company……..if I was cynical I might see an alterior motive here.
I have heard that due to the economy “new products” with a minimum run may not be possible now.
You should believe it when you have it in your hands.
RCare — I have tried that and another company that uses willowherb does not work!!! Plant sourced materials do not work in creams as you can not concentrate it enough to have any effect.
Minerals are the only way to go for rosaceans.
I have no motive, bro — just was pissed like many when Linda Sy shut down with no warning and had to do the trial and error bs — paid off for me as I have my product and that is fine by me — feel for other rosaceans!
Wow!!!!
I can’t believe this day has come. No more Linda Sy.
What to do? Has anybody heard more on Linda Sy’s products being on rosaceacare.com
Does anybody know about rosaceacare products? Their soap for example.
I’m so sad. I have been using Linda Sy for years and I went to buy some soap and now I don’t know what to do.
Please, If anybody knows more about when these products will be availble again, please tell.
I think I have tried Cetaphil and it didn’t work for me. Any other suggestions for oily/dry combination skin.
Thanks,
and may we all find an alternate way to never have horrible flare ups again!!
Cetaphil makes my skin peel. Aveeno’s Ultra Calming Foaming Cleanser (supposed to be for rosacea) makes it peel and break out. Full Circle Papaya & Soy Milk Cleanser is working pretty good for me (I’m suprised). It really cleans (takes off my makeup) and leaves my skin smooth – no peeling or bumps. I found it in my local grocery store. I will see if can find out more information. Their website does not show this product and I have sent them a message on how/where this product can be found. Of course it would be my luck that it has been discontinued.
Digital Davo – any chance you can clear up the 2 conflicting statements on this post RE: The new release of the 4 Linda Sy products & their ingredients?
Many Thanks
David.
Hi David,
It seems that Brian is the only one who has conflicting information – well it at least seems he would like us to believe that he has conflicting information from somewhere.
RosaceaCare will be using the same lab and exactly the same formulation as used previously for the 4 products in question. They will come in RosaceaCare packaging but will be the same as before.
davidp.
The proof is in the product.
We still have no product from RCare and no official launch date.
LSy would have announced as promised when another party was to launch the discontinued products…
Look at the facts. We all know that rosacea waits for no person and that we must find on our own what works best for us.
BTW, I use 10% sulfur soap and also Cetaphil and that works great for me.
Brian – no offence but I hope Digital Davo is right & you are wrong – BUT I guess we will just have to wait & see.
I also use cetaphil bar soap – works good for me too.
Thanks
David.
Brian, Where do you get the 10% sulfur soap?
Thanks for all the help!!!
I used a ponds facial wipe this weekend and it seemed to be okay. I was also told that a facial wipe from Trader Joes works really well. When I find out which one I will let you know! I think it is a oatmeal make up remover for sensitive skin.
Thanks,
Andi
I appreciate everyones feedback. Until tinted Zinco is available again I’m thinking of purchasing Rosacea Care Sunscreen “30″ as a substitute. I find I have mild cases of flaring especially in warm temperatures. I’m vacationing in the Bahamas in a couple weeks. Can I get peoples opinions on this product? Thanks
I am on my last tube of tinted Zinco, went online to buy more – wow! Linda Sy retired – and we need her (and her products) so badly! Followed the comment stream, looks like we may have a solution in Roseceacare, so I went to the website, didn’t see any tinted sunscreen yet, keeping my fingers crossed!
Hey Andi
The only places I have ever found 10% Sulfur soap has been in Bangkok, Hong Kong or Malaysia.
They use it a lot due to humidity. (fight the fungus!)
I love it and have used it for over 15 years.
I am in Asia all the time so easy for me to get.
Try Chinatown in a city near you or online?
Sweet, Thanks Brian!
I guess brand names might be hard to figure out, but if you know of any let me know.
For those of you that need to find a soap other than cetephil, I have been using Trader Joes makeup remover wipes for sensitive dry skin. In a lite brown package. Seems to be working well. I rinse after I use the wipes.
SO,
one product down (soap) five more to replace
LINDA SY
WHY?
I would also LOVE to know what is in the moisture gel that is in Linda Sy’s acne control gel. The ingredients aren’t broken down like all the other products.
I LOVE that stuff, it helps soooooo much. Luckily I have three bottles.
Hey Andi
The soaps I bought were all locally made and no big name attached to them.
This is typical for some goods in SE Asia.
I knew years ago this was great for my skin as I went to sulfur springs and it was a beneficial experience.
Google around and see what you find.
Since the escape of LSy, I have found my soap replacement and ZincO tinted.
Trial and error.
http://www.sulphursoap.com/
If someone has any Liquid Makeup-Sunscreen in Golden Light please let me know, I’m desperate. Message says duplicate comment detected. I can assure you this is the first time I’ve been on this site.
Barbara Skei
425-347-0204
Shirley, You may have to do trial and error on mascara. I didn’t have the ocular form of rosacea, but while I was treating my skin and for about 18 months total, I didn’t wear any makeup. I notice I sometimes have watery eyes when wearing mascara now, but it doesn’t happen every time I apply it. So, something else is going on. I’ve been using Almay and Neutrogena’s mascara. I recommend that if you try a mascara and notice your eyes do have a problem, to stop using the mascara immediately and give your eyes a chance to calm down before you venture forth and try another brand. Here’s to hoping you eventually find a mascara you can work with. Rachael M
Hey Brian,
Thanks for the website for sulphur soap. I’m also going to contact Avenueskin to see if they might do a zinc-o without retional. I’m not sure if retional causes fare-ups for me, but they might be into making a zinc-o without, for people who do have problems with it. I really appreciate all your help!!
Shirley- I use KISS ME mascara. It is a “tube” mascara…. NEVER runs and easy to get off. It never gets in the eye because they are tubes that you pull off after applying just plain water. I will never go back to the old type of mascara. Google tube mascara, Kiss Me!! You Will LOVE IT!! Good luck
Andi
I haven’t tried this personally but I wonder if anyone has tried the Sanitas sunblock called “Solarblock” it is apparently Micronized Zinc Oxide and Vitamin C.
I use warm greentea bags on my eyes for red lids.
Before bed once a week, a good cleaning to eye lids with a warm wet greentea bag and it is excellent for any itching or uncomfortable feeling in the eye lids.
Cheap and it works for me!
Maybe English tea would work the same — haven’t tried it.
Hi just out of curiosity – has anyone had ETS?
Thanks
David.
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Hi David,
This thread is perhaps not the best spot to talk about the banish rosacea topic. You can find a thread in the rosacea support community site.
Banish Rosacea
davidp.
Over at the Community Forum Site Scooter Boy has posted this update from RosaceaCare.
“”We are getting very close to confirming a ‘release date’ on the tinted ZincO. We are in the final stages of packaging and the formula is ready and waiting. Once the production is complete on the 1st product we are releasing: Vita-Oil, the ZincO-Tinted will run next.
So in short, when we have confirmation the packaging is filled by manufacturing, we will send out a press release to everyone on our list; we promise!
We are very excited that the release is coming soon and very anxious to send out the good news. Many thanks in the interim, for your patience.”
“”We are getting very close to confirming a ‘release date’ on the tinted ZincO. We are in the final stages of packaging and the formula is ready and waiting. Once the production is complete on the 1st product we are releasing: Vita-Oil, the ZincO-Tinted will run next.
So, Vita-oil comes out first but ZincO next, even though the packaging is done?
Bit confusing…
Which bit is confusing Brian ?
Brian, where does it say the packaging is done fella ?
“We are in the final stages of packaging” Is what I can read in that piece…… Thanks Davo for the new information.
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I remember years ago I paid for this paper and the bottomline was “stay away from SUGAR”.
It didn’t state anything more that I can remember as being important except what we all know, stay away from saunas and heat sources, drink lots of water…
No sugar is the theme in this…not sure if I agree with what I read regarding sugar. Maybe one factor but rosacea is so complicated and a personal battle with all of us liking certain products or lifestyles to help us!
I just want plain white zinco and the concealing powder by Linda Sy.
I cannot tolerate anything else and won’t even try. The soap I use is avalon organics facial cleansing milk & daily moisturizer. Less dry skin is OK with the old formula Complex 15 lotion. For my really dry skin, I require pure emu oil by any reputable producer that adds nothing more than a minimum amount of vitamin E as a preservative. I have extra dry, extra sensitive rosacea. Heat, humidity, dryness, cold, wind, stress, fatigue all bother me equally.
You do not need all the other fancy stuff and harsh chemicals. Why not make something that is low cost and low market price? Avoiding pain was the most important goal; appearance was second. I use no other makeup. It isn’t needed if your skin looks good. Unfortunately, too much R&D is put into packaging and non-essential/harmful ingredients.
You start adding in retinol and other “transforming” ingredients, you eliminate potential clients such as myself.
Especially in today’s economy, just make and use the basics. You can’t lose because you minimize production costs and appeal to the most diverse range of clientele. Plus, the longer the list of ingredients, the more irritants.
Well, I had stocked up on Tinted Zinc-O but my last tube is running dry–and here comes summer. BTW, for a cleanser, I use All Calm Creamy Cleanser, available at kohls, both in stores and on their web site. It’s inexpensive and soothing.
I wonder if anyone has tried this product (which I came across in a google search): Murad Oil-Free Sunblock Sheer Tint?
Hi!
If there are any news, let me/us know about it pls …
Thx,
Nils
Please let me know when the new tinted Zinc-O is available and how to purchase it. Thanks!
Can I be notified when the tintd Zinc-O becomes available through RosaceaCare? Thank you.
please let me know when zinco cream will be sold.
I would love to be notified when the Linda Sy products are re-released at RosaceaCare. I am panicked that I can replace my tinted Zinco!
I use several products for over 10 years
Bronzing loose powder
Optimal Sunscreen Moist.
Soap for oily skin
Also on ocassion make-up and loose translucent powder
Please has anyone found good replacements for the above products.
How do I get on her email list, in case Linda Sy products become available again.
Carmen
Can I get notified when the tinted zinco gets re relaeased. Thanks
Mark
I’m closing out my final bottles of Linda Sy Recreational Sunscreen SPF 30. The exp. is 4/09, but they will be good for long after the exp. if stored in a cool, dry place.
I’m selling them 5 for $30.00 including priority shipping. (Retail was $24.00 each)
Recreational Sunscreen is very water & sweat-resistant and great to use on face and body if you’re working or playing outdoors. It’s also great to use on the kids this summer!
Contact Rebecca at btyler18@hotmail.com for more information.
Would also love to hear from anyone if the zinco untented becomes available. Been using it for years! I too am about to run out… OMG what will I do?
I also have extra sensitive skin. Not much out there I can use.
I found a product online that I’m going to try as a substitute for the tinted ZincO. It’s a tinted sunscreen (also comes untinted) with these ingredients: zinc oxide 18% w/w, phenoxyethanol, caprylyl glycol. Available thru an Australian company, adorebeauty.com. A little pricey, but I’m desperate. Will leave a comment once I receive it and try it out.
I have found a good replacement for the Linda Sy soap called DS Laboratories Hydroviton which is a calming cleanser made for acne and rosacea skin. Moisturises my skin rather than making it dry and it always calms the redness.
I hope that they will be bringing back the best sunscreens ever :
1-Linda Sy Recrational SPF30
2-Tinted Zinco
3-Untinted Zinco
They are the best
Please keep us informed
Marie-Claude
I love the tinted zinco cream and have been using it for years. I am gettting really low and trying to use it sparingly. Hoping I will also be contacted when it is available again. Does anyone know the expected date of availability?
Yes! Keep me informed too! I have been waiting patiently for the untinted Zinco. I am sooo worried, I don’t know what I will do when I run out of the remainder of my Zinco.
It’s the only thing I can use. Believe me I have tried everything over the counter as well as many many products off the net.
Getting desperate here.
Virginia,
The 18% zinc oxide sun screen you are talking about is it the Megan Gale tinted daywear invisible zinc? I tried it about four months ago.
Sadly it made me more red, and did nothing to cover blotchy skin. Don’t know what is in it that offended my skin, but just about everything will.
However it may work well for other people.
For me, I am looking for anything like The Linda Sy untinted zinco. So far NO LUCK!
No, it’s a different product. I bought the Invisible Zinc Tinted Daywear. Got it a few days ago, and I’ve used it three days in a row. So far, so good–no skin irritation, and just about everything irritates my skin. I bought the Medium tint, which is almost exactly the same shade as the Linda Sy tinted Zinco. It goes on smoothly, feels good on the skin (not tacky), and doesn’t give a “made-up” look. My only quibble is that it is more sheer than the Zinco, so it doesn’t completely cover my blotches or smooth out my skin tone. That’s okay for everyday–around the house, going shopping, etc.–but I’ll have to top it with foundation for other times. In general, though, I’m happy–it will serve as a sunscreen and for everyday wear until I can get the Zinco again.
RosaceaCare has just announced that Vita-Oil Release Next Week. Tinted ZincO in July.
Virginia,
If you don’t mind my asking, what was the other product with the 18% zinc oxide you mentioned?
Yes the day wear is more sheer.
Glad it is working for you.
I think I may have found a zinc oxide sun screen that is very similar to the zinco untinted.
I will try it today and hopefully it will work for me.
I was only talking about the one product: Invisible Zinc Tinted Daywear, in Medium, from adorebeauty.com.
It’s SPF30; the label says “Active Ingredient: Zinc Oxide 18%w/w Preservatives: Phenoxyethanol, Caprylyl Glycol (whatever that means).
I have it on today–put on one application, let it set and put on a second, and the coverage is good–comparable to the Zinco.
Virginia,
Yes! That’s the same one I was talking about. It has Megan Gale on the box talking about the product.
That is wonderful it is working for you.
How exciting though the tinted Zinco will be available in July.
I heard from Heather yesterday (Rosacea Care) saying the untinted will soon be available for order as well.
I am so happy to hear this.
Hi again, just want to be sure we’re talking about the same product (in case the other one–if there is another one–might work for you until Zinco is available). The adorebeauty site shows two different Invisible Zinc products. I bought the Invisible Zinc Tinted Daywear (Active Ingredient: Zinc Oxide 18%w/w Preservatives: Phenoxyethanol, Caprylyl Glycol); there’s also a product called Invisible Zinc Face and Body, with Megan Gale on the box (Active Ingredient: Zinc Oxide 18%w/w Preservatives: Diazolidinylurea, Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate). No Megan Gale on the box for the one I bought (unless they’ve changed the packaging since you tried it). Anyway, it’s working nicely for me for now, but, I agree–I will be veerrrrrry happy when the tinted Zinco comes out (it covers a bit better, and–hopefully–will be less expensive).
Virginia,
Just went back to look at the site (adorebeauty), and I had gotten the one that comes in the tube, not the brush on. But yes, it is the same thing. Mine is the Tinted Daywear light ANTI-AGEING fACIAL MOISTURISING SUNSCREEN spf30+.
INVISIBLE ZINC. Eighteen 18% ZINC OXIDE. It was 32.00.
I was soooo hopeful when it came in the mail a few months ago. It was way to drying, and I got red again…
Seems like everything makes me RED.
I have had Rosacea for about fifteen years now, and it’s only been the last five or six years that it has been what I call very hard to control. Mostly out of control!
Seems like even with all my IPL treatments and God I have had more then I can count… having one tomorrow. Been seeing a doctor from UCLA in Los Angeles. I can no longer use the metro cream at all. Even that burns my skin.
Anyway sorry to run on. How long, and how severe is your Rosacea? If you don’t mind my asking?
Hi,
I wanted to let anyone know that I came across some Tinted ZincO and bought all they had left and have listed the ones I could not possibly use on ebay. They are brand new never opened and will ship fast! I was so glad that I finally found some that I wanted to share these with anyone else that may be out and could not find more.
The direct link is
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320393466684
Lilly
Hi,
Here are the other two links for the Linda Sy Tinted ZincO:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&item=320393467652
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&item=320393467763
I have three altogether to sell.
Lilly
Thanks Lily, but I have been looking, and waiting for the untinted zinco. Can’t use the tinted! But Thank you..
Is there a chance that my favourite sunscreen :
-Linda Sy Recreational Sunscreen SPF 30
will ever be made available also? Although, it is made up of chemical sunscreens (low percentage though), I can asure you of it’s gentleness (even more so than her zinco’s). The plus side is that this sunscreen was great for extra dry skin (the zinco’s were a bit drying for me). My facial skin was luminous, hydrated and even the redness was toned down with
-Linda Sy’s Recreational sunscreen SPF 30
and my very dry skin is extremely sensitive with a combination of Rosacea and Seboréa. It was a truly miraculous product (my favourite of all) and would you believe that I could not tolerate chemical sunscreens at all usually (and I have tried them all)?? Bewildering! Has anyone had such an experience with this product?
I sure hope that they bring back the :-Linda Sy Recreational Sunscreen SPF 30!! Thanks
Hello Marie-Claude,
Sorry to say it, but I think your chances are very low that someone will pick up this sunscreen and start producing it again.
davidp.
RosaceaCare has announced that “Tinted ZincO will once again be available and ready to ship throughout the world on Friday, July 17, 2009. On-line purchases can be made in advance of that date by visiting our website at rosaceacare.com. The price for the three-ounce tube is $ 38 US.”
Marie-Claude,
You can by 5 bottles of the recreational sunscreen on e bay for just $25. If you keep it in a cool place it will last you many years. I’ve just bought 5 myself. Link is below, hope this may help you. Page down to recreational sunscreen.
http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid=p2681.m38.l1313&_nkw=linda+sy&_sacat=See-All-Categories
Steve,
Thanks for the info about the recreational sunscreen. I will buy a few bottles. Do you suggest that I keep them in the refrigerater?
Marie-Claude, I think a dark cool cupboard would be better, that’s what I do with mine.
Steve,
O.K thanks!
Steve,
O.K thanks, I will do that also!
I really need the oatmeal cleanser? David, when is that gona be released???
Hi Sandra, I post here whatever I know, and I have no idea, sorry.
Hello,
I always buy a year’s supply from Linda Sy and just tried to reorder–I had no idea she had closed up shop.
I have been using the Moisturizing Oil for so long now that I can’t even imagine using anything else. I react to Vita Oil and plain jojobaoil -everything I’ve ever tried besides that particular oil. I need an oil underneath a moisturizer otherwise I’m a mess.
Does anyone have any idea if the Moisturizing Oil will be picked up by the new company, or any other suggestions?
Thanks,
Cenia
I pre-ordered 2 tubes of tinted ZincO and received them international express today.
I tried it on one side of my face and I had to laugh as I wanted to compare it to the old Linda Sy product but it has been so long since I ran out that I forgot what it was like!
Since the end of last year I have been using the AvenueSkin or Clinique or Fx Cover.
I put this one and the tint has the proper color to it with a hint of green to offset the redness and I put a tissue soon on my face and I could see it come off like it used to (white pillow cases –ouch) but the texture is nice and soft and there seems to be a touch more of an oil base to it.
So the color is what I expected and the texture is better I think and the plastic tube has a safety seal inside as well as a holding ridge in the cap portion. I look forward to using it tomorrow.
I am sure that past ZincO users will be happy to have a product again as it seems like it was ages since I ran out and started using other products.
I will use my AvenueSkin, Clinique and now my Rosacea Care tinted ZincO–all set for summer!
Linda Sy’s old tinted ZincO used to separate after a few months and the white zinc oxide would settle to a part of the tube so I had to mix it up. This new version seems to be a welcome change and thank you to the makers for listening to all our voices and giving us the product we all have used for many years.
Good luck to all in the forum and may we all enjoy and find products to live a happy and rosacea covered life!
Hello.
Just a follow-up from yesterday.
It is a brutally hot summer day in Asia and so I thought I would try RCare’s tinted ZincO and I really like it.
Great coverage BUT make sure to blend it well or it looks like you have foundation on. (I am sure it has to be a bit heavy to hide those blushing moments or red days)
A little give and take which is fine by me!
If you blend it well and even it really looks natural and feels good to have it back on my skin after all these months!
Thank you Rosacea Care!
Hi Brian – when you say ‘blend it well’ – please elaborate. I haven’t ordered any yet as I still have a little of the old ZincO left.
So you definitely like it?
Thanks
David.
Hello.
Like I say I have been using AvenueSKIN and Clinique for so many months I forgot what Linda Sy tinted zinco was like!
Yes, I like it and I would say you have to try it to see if it fits you.
Just blend well on your face to look natural.
I love the viscosity of this product and dark color — look tanned and covers redness.
This is the goal here.
I like it and would say for others to try it and form their own opinion.
Cheers.
Dude,
Where’s my Zinco?
I just went on rosacea.com’s website. It says:
“NEW RELEASE! ORDER NOW!
ZincO tinted sunscreen
We are happy to announce that the world-famous Tinted ZincO is now being distributed by Rosacea Care and is now available.
…
Vita-Oil Rosacea Treatment
Also now available: the original moisturizing Vita-Oil. Perfect treatment for rosacea and sensitive skin.
Read more about this helpful rosacea treatment…”
So, if you’re interested in those 2 products, check out the site! They also offer sample kits of their various products.
I wrote and asked about samples for the sole 2 products I’m interested in — the cleanser and moisturizer. The other kits contain products I will only toss, which is a waste of product, containers and money. Dr Sy had no problem making individual samples available. Most of us are only too familiar with the hassle of getting burned with full-size containers of products that upset our skin.
I don’t know how I’ll do with the cleanser. The ingredients are nothing like those of Dr Sy’s oatmeal cleanser. I kept my bottles of oatmeal cleanser and normal/combo moisturizing cream for the ingredient lists to compare if I ever found something comparable.
By the way, if you’re needing a cleanser, I found Person & Covey’s “Aquanil” works very well. It’s gentle and doesn’t upset my skin. Been using it 3 years. I get it online from drugstore.com. Comes in 8 ounce and 16 ounce bottles. It’s US $12 for the 16 ounce bottle. I buy 2 at a time and when I’m down to half of my 2d bottle, I buy 2 more.
Hope this helps! Rachael M, Los Angeles, CA
My compounding pharmacist made up a three oz jar using the ingredients of Zinco tube and figured out proportions as he was already familiar with all the ingredients as part of his job and they are stock inventory items. It was $24 and works just fine. It has a slightly different texture. If I want to make changes he will work with me. Some pharmacists will require a prescription, which is not necessary as there are no drugs.
You can tint it yourself by mixing mineral powders you can find anywhere. But I prefer to just dab the mineral powder on top of red areas where the skin is still damp from moisturizer and the compounded zinc. I find this blends pretty well.
My own pharmacist suggested an even cheaper route: buy a jar of Vanicream as a base and experiment with zinc powder you can order. Vanicream is a common compounding base or over the counter moisturizer.
Natural emu oil with only vitamin E as a preservative added, with Complex 15 Lotion on top are terrific anti-inflammatories and moisturizers that impact surface and subsurface areas. Those were recommended by another compounding pharmacist.
Really heavy sunblocks for dry sensitive rosacea on my face- they all bother me. So, I just wear a big brimmed hat and keep cold water nearby. I’ve used SolBar 50 spf everywhere else for 15 years.
I heard back from Heather at rosaceacare.com today about getting samples of their products.
They have several sample care kits available on-line if you want to try a number of their products for a reasonable cost. Samples should last 8 days to 2 weeks.
What I didn’t know is that individual samples are also available, but only by phone order (not on-line).
If you’re interested, check them out at rosaceacare.com. Their 800 number for the US and Canada is shown on the site. They also give an email address for Heather and is probably the best way to contact them if you’re outside the US and Canada. If I remember correctly, they offer international shipping, too.
By the way, Heather said they are eagerly awaiting the release of the Oatmeal cleanser.
Me, too!
Hope this helps!
Rachael
Update on rosaceacare.com.
They make the individual samples available by phone (or email), as I said above, and probably will be offering them on-line, too. Email Heather. She’s fabulous for getting back to you and helping.
Also, reminder, besides the Vita-Oil, the tinted ZincO is now available. If you contact Heather, she can put you on their list when the Oatmeal Cleanser is available. They’ll be sending out announcements.
Best!
Rachael M
Comment via email:
“Hi Brian – is the new ZincO darker than Dr. Sy’s? You say ‘blend well’ – does it not apply as well as Dr. Sy’s ZincO?
Many Thanks
David.”
Just bought the vita-oil and the tinted zinco. I love the new zinco! It is more hydrating then before. There is a new ingredient : castor oil plus some ingredients are not put in the same order, which explains the new texture. I hope they consider bringing back the Recreational Sunscreen also. I have also purchased their samples and I love the texture of their SPF 30 sunscreen but I will not buy it because they have added witch hazel which is a known skin irritant….especially for rosaceans…By the way, I find that the new zinco is exactly the same color as before, but that’s me. I hope they sell the original zinco also. During the winter, I would mix them together to make the tinted paler…for when I don’t have a tan…
Buy and try!
I would not change the color or texture of tinted Zinco.
I like the additional hydration by oil and also the tint.
As a fair blond, it makes me look healthy and after 10 days of using this daily — I will keep buying it as is and keep up my IPL and using my AvenueSkin when needed.
Buy and try is what I say!
What is Avenueskin and where do you buy it (website)?
Thanks
Hi Marie – your comment has got me puzzled. I wonder why they would add castor oil – OK I can probably go with this one BUT why add witch hazel which as you say is NOT GOOD for rosacea skin?? Brian or David P any comments Re: this? I’m not sure that I would now think of buying it. What happened to ‘the product will be exactly the same?’
Would appreciate your feedback.
many thanks
David C.
Brian – thanks for your posts. Just a question if you wouldn’t mind not related to ZincO – how many IPL treatments have you had & has it eliminated your rosacea?
Many Thanks
David C
Hello.
I have had IPL 2-3x a year for the past 5? years (lost count)
I get it done by a professional in Toronto (Susan) and it has reduced my rosacea by 70-80%.
I use both AvenueSkin’s products as well as the new Rosacea Care tinted Zinco. I find both work great and even combine them!
http://sites.google.com/site/avenueskinforrosaceans/spf-protective-products-tinted-and-non-tinted
I will continue with IPL and using what I have now.
In my mid-40′s I get many compliments from friends or fellow workers on how I have such young, fresh looking skin.
A lot of work, product and genetics.
Rosacea made me take extra good care over the years and I am now metrogel free and use flagyl 4% at night prior to bed as well as a replacement for vita-oil that I buy at AvenueSkin –created by Susan, it has high levels of Vit C and E with myrr.
Hi Brian – thanks for the info. I have had 4 Pulse Dye Laser treatments over 9 years & I would say I am 90% Rosacea free.
My Dr has the IPL machine as well – most people want this because PDL is not easy to take – painful while the treatment is going on (if you don’t want pethedine) & painful for about a day after that. Down time & what you look like is probably what puts people off. Face swells unbelievably & the purple bruising is quite unattractive but after 4 weeks it is pretty much gone. After 6 weeks there is not a single trace.
I am in my early 40′s too – people think I am in my 20′s!! I only use vit E oil & ZincO – no antibiotics at all.
Am thinking of having one last PDL treatment next year as opposed to the IPL as my Dr says that IPL will take away redness etc but it will not totally eliminate the flushing.
Am glad that IPL has worked well for you.
Thanks for all your posts.
David C.
Hi David-If you look at the ingredient listing on the new version of the zinco cream: they have added castor oil in the new version (I have compared the old and new meticulously).There is no witch hazel in the zinco tinted! The witch hazel is found in the SPF30 which I have ordered from RosaceaCare’s sample kits (this product has nothing to do with the Linda Sy products)…
Can anyone tell me where I can purchase the AvenueSkin products?
Thanks
Hi Marie,
I too confirmed that castor oil is mentioned on the RosaceaCare packaging, but no the Linda Sy packaging. I asked RC and this was their response back from the firm that is making the product
“The change in the ingredient listing only reflects a nomenclature change for one of the component raw materials. Changes in the ingredient listing nomenclature are not always updated in a timely fashion on the packaging of established products. Dr. Sy may have been using a stock of screened containers that she had in inventory or she may have reordered them with the previous ingredient information without asking us for any updates. ”
So thankfully this confirms that it is as it always has been; the same lab making the same product as before for Linda Sy.
davidp.
Hi David-Thanks for the info about the zinco. I just hope that I was clear : I love the tinted zinco cream!! It’s great, wonderful and a godsend for us people with sensitive skin! Do you have any idea if the untinted zinco will be available eventually or any other of Linda Sy’s wonderful products for that matter?
Thanks
I use Linda Sy every day! It is terrible that she is no longer available and that she has not left a contingency plan for her loyal users. No skin care product treats my Rosacea that way hers does.
I just bought the Vita-Oil from Rosacea Care – does anyone know if it is the exact same ingredients as hers?
Thanks!
Michelle
Glad I am not the only one out here waiting for the untinted zinco. It is a God Send for some of us. Just about the only thing that would calm my red down.
I like the tinted as well, but it’s the untinted that gets me through the day, and night!
Just want to pass on info about two wonderful products that I have ordered while waiting for the zinco to come out : IS Clinical Treatment cream SPF 25 (tinted and non-tinted). The products are light and soothing (just 3% zinc oxide) and although the tinted is two bronzy for any caucasian, you mix it with the non-tinted and the result is a wonderful tan.. I alternate (and will keep on alternating) with the zinco by Linda Sy…
I’m down to my final Linda Sy products. The following are still available in VERY limited quantities:
Linda Sy Concealing Loose Powder
Linda Sy Souffle Cream Medium
Linda Sy Eye Firming Gel
Please contact Rebecca at btyler18@hotmail.com for more information.
I use clinique mild soap now in place of lindasy bar soap for normal skin.
It works as well if not better.
I am still searching for a shampoo that doesn’t make me “hot.” Any suggestions? I am looking for a fragrance free organic shampoo of possible.
Count your blessings you can use clinique soap at all! Or any of the clinique products. Lucky you no kidding. Gosh I wish I could.
I had used Linda Sy soap for sensitive skin for years.
It took me months to find a facial cleanser.
I have been using aveeno ultra calming foaming cleanser its been working fine. Thank God.
I now know I can not use anything with titanium dioxide as we know most sun screens as well as face make up, and face powders seem to have titanium dioxide.
For moisture lotion I use all calm a product from good skin. I get that from Kohls dept. store.
Found a nice face powder from macys. Origins silk screen.
Wonderful stuff.
AND IT IS NOT MAKING ME RED!
I am posting this just in case anyone else out there has Rosacea as severely as I do.
J-Dizzle when you say a shampoo that will not make you hot? Do you mean red and burning? Or your face really getting hot?
Will keep a look out for a shampoo…
Lynn
I mean my whole body temperature rises and I will start sweating at the slightest stressor. And this will last a couple days after I shampoo if it does not agree with me.
I still can’t find a shampoo that agrees with me and is organic. I only shampoo about once every two weeks.
Anyway, let me know what you guys use. Thanks for the response.
Hi J-Dizzle : Sorry about your misfortune with shampoo, I have to be careful as well so I’m passing on info : Paula’s Choice shampoo is pretty basic : fragrance free and gentle and the ingredient list is short (keeping allergic reactions at bay).
La Coupe now has a fragrance free shampoo (very tall baby blue bottle).
In Canada : Cliniderm shampoo is pretty basic (I forget the name in the U.S)…Oh ! I think it’s Clear and Free or something to that effect.
Take care
Hi – I just purchased Vita-Oil from Rosacea Care. They say it is the same as Linda Sy…but it smells and looks different. Does any one know what the difference is? Thanks!
Hi – I just purchased Vita-Oil from Rosacea Care. They say it is the same as Linda Sy…but it smells and looks different. I’m not sure it is the same formula. Does any one know what the difference is? Thanks!
Hi Michell,
RosaceaCare has assured me that the lab is assuring them that the formulations are exactly the same as for Linda Sy.
I would imagine that there are normal variations in batches of things like natural oils. I wonder if perhaps that is a reason.
davidp.
Hi David! Ah, i wish that were true. But i have been buying Linda Sy for years and have never experienced this smell or color before. I feel they have the best intentions but may have strayed from the formula.
Thanks,
Michelle
I too am hoping for a replacement of the UN-tinted Zinco cream. The tinted is way too dark for my fair skin. I would also like to get some Oatmeal cleanser.
In the mean time I have just purchased some of this:
Quintessence Sunshade SPF 30 (uses Zinco and comes in 4 shades). Thanks to the person who posted this info. earlier in the thread. I got it at Skinstore.com, FWIW.
Hi Michelle – have you considered using blackmore’s vit. e capsules? I leave them on a paper towel for aday to let them soften up & then the next with a sterilised needle a prick the capsules & squeeze the oil into an old vita oil bottle. I have been doing this for years.
David C
I just had an IPL session at AvenueSkin this week and have finalized my skincare plan!
1. IPL sessions
2. AvenueSkin C and E concentrated serum (instead of vita-oil)
3. AvenueSkin tinted mixed with Rosacea Care’s tinted ZincO.
4. I just started using Susan’s hydrating tinted cream under my #3 and LOVE IT.
I am set and hope this helps others.
Once a month now I still use green tea bags on my eyes for redness of the lids.
Good luck!
Well, the Quintessence sunscreen arrived and it turned out to be 3% zinc oxide and 3% octinoxate. I must have been confused because I thought this was supposed to be a 100% physical sunscreen.
Meanwhile I found another product that might be of interest to people here looking for a substitute for the untinted Zinco cream:
Epicuren Zinc Sunscreen – SPF 20
“A zinc sunscreen that is formulated with no toxins, chemicals or oils and works to heal, soothe and diminish the signs of aging. Will not clog pores. (Size: 2.5 fl oz)
Ingredients: Deionized water, micronized zinc oxide, glycerin, collagen amino acids, aloe vera, biotin, niacin, riboflavin, hydrolyzed elastin, panthenol, magnesium aluminum silicate, beeswax, xanthan gum, rose hips, tocopheryl (vitamin E) acetate, aloe barbadensis (aloe vera) leaf, retinol (vitamin A) palmitate, ergocalciferol (vitamin D), cinnamomum cassia (cinnamon)extract, grapefruit seed extract, bearberry leaf extract.”
http://store.skincarelab.com/zioxsu.html
However I don’t think that micronized zinc oxide is the same thing as Zinco, which if I remember right is zinc oxide coated with dimethicone–is that right? I really need that dimethicone to keep my skin from looking oily after a few hours. The only sunscreens I’ve found that prevent oilyness are (were) the Linda Sy and another one I buy on eBay called Sofina Nuance Up. This last one is a chemical soup though, so probably not suitable for Rosaceans.
I’m down to my final Linda Sy products. The following are still available in VERY limited quantities:
Linda Sy Concealing Loose Powder
Linda Sy Souffle Cream Medium
Linda Sy Eye Firming Gel
Please contact Rebecca at btyler18@hotmail.com for more information.
Has anyone found anything that comes close to the coverage, texture, and color of Linda Sy’s Essential Cream makeup?
Anyone knows if Linda Sy’s zinco original (non-tinted)will be back any time soon? It would be useful during the winter months for those like me who’s skin is paler during this time of year.
Why not use the tinted and add a lighter foundation to it and blend?
I like what Rosacea Care did with the new product!
More oil means a nicer glow and more hydration.
I also use AvenueSkin’s non-tinted and tinted.
The secret is to use a few products and alternate.
Good luck.
Brian If you don’t mind, where do you get AvenueSkin non tinted?
Hello Lynn,
I buy it from;
http://sites.google.com/site/avenueskinforrosaceans/spf-protective-products-tinted-and-non-tinted
I have found when I was traveling in Thailand (brutal sun) that it protected my face for the whole day and when I did swim it was great as I did not need to reapply.
I only use it on my face, ears and neck.
Good luck!
Thanks Brian for the info, but I do miss the zinco…
Thank you so much!
Did you know that you can buy the pure zinco powder online at http://www.gardenofwisdom.com:
http://www.gardenofwisdom.com/catalog/item/7000431/3906462.htm
Just add the powder to whatever lotion or cream that you current like for your face.
For people who like color correction, I posted earlier (I think) about Merle Norman powder base…simple, elegant cream with zinc oxide as the second or third ingredient. Does contain mineral oil but that doesn’t bother me.
Brian,
Regarding avenueskin I feel a little uncomfortable ordering anything with a credit card in another country.
When I went to the web site it says it is not a secure site?
How did you get your product? Are you living in Canada? Want to try the untinted zinc oxide, but a little worried about ordering on my card?
Lynn
I am another disgruntled customers of Linda Sy’s products and continue to hope I will find out that someone is continueing her line of products. Shortly I will finish my last bottle of acne cover lotion and tube of ZincO cream. I have used the lotion over the cream for years and know another product will not replace them. I would like to be contacted if her business and products are brought back.
Sharon
I feel your pain! I have been using the Moisturizer for Face and Body for years and been searching endlessly for a substitute…sadly I have not found one.
A lot of us out here. I miss the soap for dry sensitive skin, and the untinted zinco.
For those of us with extremely sensitive skin its really been next to impossible to find products to replace Linda Sy skin care.
I am still trying to find the untinted zinc oxide sun screen I can use without getting RED!
So far? NOTHING out there! I kid you not I have spent hundreds of dollars on different products. Getting very desperate.
I only have two tubes of untinted zinco left.
Lynn, Michelle & Sharon – I know it is expensive (but by the sound of things you have spent a great deal of money already) have you considered going to a compounding chemist? They can pretty much make anything & the ingredients are listed on the tube so there is not guess work involved.
I really hope you find a solution.
Regards
David.
David,
I did go to one compounding pharmacist. Not a chemist, but he was not much help.
Said here in Los Angeles most likely it would be extremely expensive to do in such a small quantity.
Now if I were to order enough for my life time! LOL they may help me.
I guess I will go ahead and order the Avenue Skin that Brian suggested.
I am just a little uneasy ordering out of the Country. However my sons girlfriend assured me its fine, and she has done it a lot.
I sure hope this stuff will work!
But thanks for the suggestion, and I think I will try to find a chemist, and ask them directly.
Lynn
Is anyone willing and able to sell a sample of either of these formulas (tinted or untinted), or maybe both? I am hesitant to purchase them because of how pricey they are compared to the original–at least twice as expensive if not more–and the fact that the website alludes to the formula being changed somewhat, to make it more moisturizing. I happen to have liked the matte finish of the original. Hence my reluctance to fork over the $60+ US dollars to try it. I would really like to purchase a sample though from anyone who would be willing to do that.
thanks
Hi Lynn/Canarygirl – don’t be put off by what that one chemist told you – I live in Sydney Australia & the one I found was going to charge me $300 (about $270 American) for a large tube (almost 2X the size of the old Linda Sy Tube) & $150 for any orders after that. If it wasn’t for Rosacea care bringing back the Tinted ZincO I would have gone down this road.
I have only recently ordered the new ZincO from Rosacea care – looks like there are 2 new ingredients – ‘Castor Oil Phosphate & DEA-Oleath-3 Phosphate’ -I to liked the Matte finish – being a guy it doesn’t make it look like I have makeup on – I too am a little concerned that the new product may be a little ‘oily’.
David P did say on 8 July 2009 “I too confirmed that castor oil is mentioned on the RosaceaCare packaging, but no the Linda Sy packaging. I asked RC and this was their response back from the firm that is making the product. The change in the ingredient listing only reflects a nomenclature change for one of the component raw materials. Changes in the ingredient listing nomenclature are not always updated in a timely fashion on the packaging of established products. Dr. Sy may have been using a stock of screened containers that she had in inventory or she may have reordered them with the previous ingredient information without asking us for any updates. ”
So thankfully this confirms that it is as it always has been; the same lab making the same product as before for Linda Sy.
David, do you know anything about the other ingredient DEA-Oleath-3 Phosphate? Maybe this may help with canarygirl’s concerns.
Canarygirl – I would give you some free of charge when I receive my tube – do you live in Sydney?
Regards
David C
What about the untinted ZincO? Anyone have any idea if Rosacea Care is still planning on releasing that item?
Yes, the Untinted ZincO Cream is still coming, no date available yet, as far as I know.
Thankyou, David for the update and the offer to give me a sample. However, I live faaar away from you in the Pacific NW/USA so I expect shipping costs would make it not worthwhile. I may just throw caution to the wind and purchase an untinted tube when it becomes available.
I am waiting patiently for the Untinted Zinco . So I pray they are going to bring it back…..
Lynn
Hi Canarygirl – I think when it comes to our skin we are in a situation where unfortunately we have to spend a lot of money. I have booked myself in for one more PDL treatment in February – probably looking at $1600 – & this will make treatment number four so it is a costly disease – BUT it has saved my life so it has been worth every cent. Brian has stated that he loves the Rosacea Care ZincO so I think it is worthwhile to give it a try.
I hope that the untinted becomes available very soon. I wish I could be of more assistance.
Try to hang in there – I know it is not easy – I know that is easier said than done.
Take care
David C
David,
PDL treatment that expensive where you live?
I have one done about once a month, along with an IPL at UCLA in Los Angeles California, and its never been over 500.00 .
I guess I should be thankful I’m in LA! I could not pay that per treatment.
Lynn
Hi Lynn – yes it is quite expensive – but this is the entire face & ears (face alone is $1200). He also has an IPL machine – I think he charges $500 for that here as well. In 9 years I have only had 3 PDL treatments (4 once I have it done in February) so if you are spending $500 every month it is actually costing you more than what it has cost me.
The Pulse Dye Laser is quite an expensive piece of equipment – my Dr told me that it cost him $70,000 to purchase & then it requires maintenance every 18mths – he is not in it for the money, he genuinely wants to help people.
In saying that, the money was & is worth it. From having a red burning face every day to look at me now you would never know I had rosacea – I still can’t go in the sun for long periods of time but skin cancer is quite common here in the land of Oz so it’s no big deal for me.
I wouldn’t even be having another treatment but I have been suffering from severe sinusitis/allergic rhinitis for the last 2 years & the histamine production is in overload which even an anti histamine tablet can’t control & causing a flush every now & again so I have decided to have just one more treatment which I hope will stop the flushing entirely. Failing that I will change my job – I work in an office & as dust/dust mites is my main trigger, it just flows through the airconditioning system no matter how clean I keep my desk.
Anyway I really do hope that the untinted becomes available for you & everyone else who are desperate for it. Fingers crossed.
Best wishes
David C
David,
I hear you on the burning! I sometimes burn so bad for hours.
That’s what drove me to get the IPL for the last seven years.
I went to DR Bitter in Beverly Hills once a month for about two years. For some reason I was not getting much benefit.
Found another Derm in West Los Angeles at UCLA. She suggested doing the V beam and the IPL at the same time.
So far I have had some results. However if I drink anything hot, eat any spicy food any alcohol, or sun back to square one.
Sometimes I just get sooo sick of the whole thing.
You are right about the expense, but it would be more difficult for me to come up with a big chunk all at once verses so much per month.
Fingers are crossed.
Lynn
Hi Lynn – I understand now. In your earlier post you were talking about PDL once a month – I realise now you mean V-Beam.
I did have 1 Vbeam treatment (only cost me about $300 – BUT Vbeam did not give me good results & took me forever to recover from. My PDL is with the “Cynosure” laser.
As I mentioned earlier, my Dr does the IPL but he has always stated that to really stop the flushing (not just get rid of the redness) the Pulse Dye Laser is the way to go – BUT Brian swears by the IPL treatment so I guess everyone is different. PDL is not pleasant – BUT the results I have had have been worth it.
It takes me a month to fully recover so as much as I am not looking forward to it in February I am looking forward to having a month off work & getting some rest.
When I got home from work last night my Rosacea Care Tinted Zinco was there in the mail. It looks the same colour & the smell is slightly different but for all of you who are waiting for the untinted, if you can’t wait any longer – maybe give the tinted a try – I put some on my arm & after rubbing it in for a while it wasn’t that dark.
I have one question though that maybe Brian can answer – Brian do you know what the DEA-3 Oleath ingredient is used for?(I saw from one of your earlier posts that you have a friend who knows about this sort of stuff).
Lynn – hang in there. I still flush thanks to my allergies & alcohol & spicy stuff is a no no for me as well.
Regards
David C
Hi everyone I have a tiny concern. Reading the New Zinco ingredients – (I know I have gone on about it in my earlier posts). I wanted to know what DEA-Oleath 3 Phosphate was before I put it on my face – one search told me that it may cause cancer – David P – do you still keep in contact with Dr Sy? Would you mind asking her about this new ingredient? It is being used as a surfactant in the sunscreen – which is fine BUT not if it could be a dangerous substance.
I will be going to my pharmacist to show him the list of ingredients before I use the new ZincO.
I will report back when I know something.
Regards
David C.
Hi David,
I’m not sure that it is really a new ingredient – see my comment #217 above. I can ask Dr. Sy what she included it for and her thinking, but I’m sure that the overall formulation is and has been designed to be as mild and elegant as she could make it.
davidp.
I have been in contact with Dr. Sy who has confirmed that the ingredients used have remained the same since 2000, only the packaging has changed. So if you have used ZincO since 2000 then you will be getting the same formulation today from RosaceaCare.
OK thanks David – I appreciate your quick response. Maybe this will answer the question once & for all.
Regards
David C
Regarding an alternative to the Linda Sy Oatmeal Facial Wash–Has anyone tried Aveeno Soothing Relief Creamy Wash? It’s actually designed for babies with eczema. It contains colloidal oatmeal, and no alcohol.
My last bottle of Linda Sy Oatmeal cleanser has just run out, and I am desperate to find a replacement but am weary to try random products as they would easily cause my rosacea to flare up. In a cinch I decided to try my daughter’s Aveeno Soothing Relief Creamy Wash (she has eczema skin), as it also contains colloidal oatmeal. After 3 days’ use, here are my observations:
- no rosacea flare up
- made my face drier than the Linda Sy Oatmeal Cleanser, but still acceptable.
- makeup washes off rather well, comparable to the Linda Sy Oatmeal Cleanser (note: I only use foundation makeup, so can’t comment on whether it can clean off mascara).
I can’t wait until Rosacea Care resurrects the Oatmeal Facial Cleaner. Meanwhile I will continue to try out the Aveeno Soothing Relief Creamy Wash. It’s readily available, and very inexpensive (~$5 for 8 oz).
I understand this may not work for everyone, but want to post it in case it can benefit someone else. Although I only have mild rosacea (thanks to Linda Sy products keeping my rosacea under control) but in general my skin is very picky about face wash (only Linda Sy so far) and sunscreen (only titanium dioxide). So I’m hopeful that this face wash solution may work for some of you too.
Doing some blog testing.
Sorry for the intrustion.
David Pascoe.
I don’t understand this – why didn’t Linda Sy sell her business to someone who would keep making her fabulous products? I’ve used her products for years. People constantly tell me I look 15 years younger than my age (I’m 49). I don’t know what I’m going to do without her products! Does anyone know why she didn’t sell her business to someone to take it over for her?
Laura
Hi All,
RosaceaCare have just let me know that their Mild Oatmeal Facial Cleanser is available to purchase online and will ship from December 14, 2009.
They have confirmed that the formulation and lab are the same as when it was made for Linda Sy.
The URL to order is
http://rosaceacare.com/orders/order.html
davidp.
(RC are a site sponsor of rosacea-support.org)
I compared the RosaceaCare site listing of ingredients in the Mild Oatmeal Facial Cleanser to my last (now empty) bottle from Dr Sy. The ingredients ARE the same in both products, BUT some of the ordering of the ingredients has changed. I don’t know if this will affect the formulation, but at least nothing has been added nor substituted. The cost for 4 ounces is $23. RosaceaCare does make sample kits available. When I contacted them via email some months ago, I learned it was possible to get an individual sample that wasn’t contained in the kit for $5. I’m planning on asking for a sample. If I’m happy with it, I’ll be back to order more. I’ll keep you posted on the results.
If anyone is looking for Linda Sy Translucent Powder-Rose Tone, there is ONE listed on eBay (auction #250579080124).
I find it shocking that I can’t reorder the ZincO sunscreen (untented) any more. If anyone has a substitute that is really close to being the same, let me know.
It would be great if RosaceaCare decided to bring back the Linda Sy SPF30 Recreational Sunscreen…I so miss it!
Does anyone know where I can get the optimal light spf 15 sunscreen? I am desperate! thank you!
Want to update on my previous post about alternative to Linda Sy Oatmeal Facial Wash.
I’ve been using Aveeno Soothing Relief Creamy Wash for quite a while now, and find that my rosacea has NOT flared! This is a wash for babies with eczema skin (you can find it in the baby aisle in stores), and it contains oatmeal too. It’s very inexpensive.
RosaceaCare have let me know that the untinted zinco cream is now called Translucent Zinco and will be available from mid July. The name has changed but the formulation is the same as before.
davidp.
I have asked a RosaceaCare representative about bringing back the Linda Sy Recreational Sunscreen SPF30 and she has answered me that the untinted zinco is the last Linda Sy product that they are bringing back. Unfortunately, they had intended to hold only four of her products (which I have all bought!!). I’m so sad!
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