Demodex mites and rosacea seem to be a popular pairing. If you are interested in eliminating demodex mites to see if your rosacea symptoms improve, just how can you kill them ? Demodex mites are tiny, and live naturally in everyone’s skin. They are quite difficult to kill.
Read on if you’d like to know more.
First of all, why would you want to eliminate them ?
There may be some new evidence that proteins from a bacteria that can be isolated from demodex mites cause an immune reaction in rosacea sufferers. I’m still not a believer in the involvement of these critters in rosacea. Just in case more evidence is found in the future, though, demodex mites are worth further understanding.
Demodex mites have a life cycle of 14-18 days.
Killing Demodex Invitro (in the test tube)
We know from the paper In vitro and in vivo killing of ocular Demodex by tea tree oil, that various oils and solutions can kill demodex mites quite quickly.
| Solution | Demodex Kill Time |
| 100% alcohol | 4 minutes |
| 50% tea tree oil | 15 minutes |
| 100% tea tree oil | 4 minutes |
| 100% carraway oil | 4 minutes |
| 100% dill weed oil | 14 minutes |
Note that carraway oil and dill weed oil are toxic to the eye. Studies have also confirmed that ether, xylol, benzene, Danish (sulfur-containing) ointment can kill demodex in a few minutes.
Ivermectin
Ivermectin is used in dermatology against some parasitic infestations in humans. The drug is used in the treatment of patients with different forms of scabies, human body lice, head lice, demodecicosis, et. al. Published literature includes a case study of one patient who was treated with topical permethrin and oral Ivermectin. In another case report of one patient, the papules and pustules of rosacea were difficult to treat until oral ivermectin was included in the treatment regime.
Several rosacea sufferers on the rosacea-support email group report success in treating their rosacea with Ivermectin, but the benefits were only short lived.
Ivermectin (Stromectol, Mectizan, Ivomec, Oramec, Cardomec) has been patented as a treatment for rosacea.
Tea Tree Oil
Tea Tree Oil is sourced from the Melaluca tree which is native to eastern Australia. Tea Tree Oil has been shown to kill demodex mites in as little as 4 minutes. External application of undiluted tea tree oil and/or at inappropriate high doses has been associated with toxicity, including death, in cats and other animals.
There is so much interest in the properties of tea tree oil that a research group has been created within the School of Biomedical, Biomolecular and Chemical Sciences at The University of Western Australia.
In a recent study, TTO was used to eliminate demodex mites living in the eyelashes of ocular rosacea sufferers. Study participants were given weekly lid scrubs with 50% tea tree oil and a daily lid scrub with a tea tree shampoo. After six weeks all 6 participants showed improvement in conjuctival irritation and inflammation.
TTO is not soluble in water, but is soluble in alcohol, but sadly that would be unsuitable for use around the eye. Tea Tree Oil can be diluted 50% in Macadamia nut oil for use around the eyes. Lid scrubs with 50% Tea Tree Oil did produce irritation in the participants but the effect was found to be minimised if care was used to avoid spilling it into the eye.
Full strength tea tree oil should never be used anywhere on the face.
Kwellada/Elimite (Permethrin)
Back in 2000, Annette Anderson advocated using Permethrin 5% on the face to eliminate the mites. Permethrin was originally used to treat scabies. She warned that getting it in your eyes burns terribly and that the instructions mention that you should not use it on your face. A few members of rosacea-support had bad reactions to using permethrin on their face, so use Permethrin with extreme care. In the U.S., 5% Permethrin (Elimite Cream) is only available by prescription.
If you are considering Permethrin in any form it would be wise to consider Dr. Linda Sy’s advice to “solicit the cooperation and supervision of their respective dermatologists, get a KOH skin scraping to establish the presence of florid demodex population … Participants try the Permethrin on a small area of face first, to determine if any immediate severe problem exists”.
Seabuckthorn Oil
Despite claims on various internet sites, I have not been able to find any published evidence that Seabuckthorn oil kills demodex mites. If you know of some evidence, please post in the comments below.
A natural approach
For those interested in a more natural approach to treating rosacea including using Olive Leaf Extract and Tea Tree Oil see Rachelle’s Alternative Treatments for Demodex Mites.
Over to You
Have you tried any treatments to eliminate demodex mites ? Did you have a bad reaction them ? any suceess ? Feel free to leave a comment below.
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My current thinking is that B. Oleronius, the Demodex parasitic bacteria, may possibly represent the initial inflammation that leads to the phases of rosacea.
One day the body develops antibodies to that antigen (the Oleronius bacteria proteins), and pretty soon after your skin develops signs and symptoms of rosacea. The
B. Oleroneus may cause the initial inflammation (immune response), which, over time, causes capillary changes that naturally occur under constant inflammatory stress (namely, increasing in size, increasing in numbers, and increasing in sensitivity). Then the “Gallo Phase” might enter. The skin is set up to react to everything, and is continuing to react to Oleroneus, so perhaps you see continually activated cathelicidins, for example.
I especially migrate back to this theory because it satisfies the question as to why rosacea is mostly limited to the face. Consider the fact that it has been known for quite some time that acne is caused by a bacteria. Furthermore, if we had general capillary weakness, wouldn’t we see issues elsewhere? The Oleroneus bacteria carrying mite may love the face because the skin there is different than on the rest of the body, especially the flush zone with it’s warmth, endless sebaceous glands, and rich capillary supply.
What about the Borax, Peroxide, and water mixture. Borax is found in many over-the-counter lotions and cleansers. I do believe it is used to kill demodex in animals, and I recall reading that some have used this mixture topically for rosacea with good results. Perhaps it could be added to the list?
Cheers!
Artist
Hi Artist,
I haven’ been able to find a reference to information about the effectiveness of Borax. I wonder if anyone knows of a good study or trustworthy site that can show that borax and peroxide can kill demodex.
thanks,
davidp.
I have suffered for last 10 years with rosacea (age now 84). Air conditioning , hot cars, theatres, dining halls etc; would trigger off an attack. The nose first and then spread to scarlet on the cheeks with some small acne. I am at the moment 90% free of of rosacea thanks to a doctor who sent me to a SPECIALIST in this field. The followingis only available in this country on PRESCRITION and needs on going 3 MONTHLY supervision. The drug I take is known as “AROPAX”(paroxetine) 20mg in the morning. It is a an Anti-Depressant and does conflict seriously with other MEDICATION that a patients may be on, so your doctor will have to know your MEDICAL HISTORY before prescribing. For me, now after 18 months I am FREE. Davidp.
Hi…
Before i was pretty skeptical about these mites being the cause of the redness and inflammation because i figured that the answer could not simply be that easy. However, recently i had a very interesting experience at a local swimming pool. Once i entered the pool, i noticed that it was quite chlorinated, pretty much to the point where you could smell it. When i got out i was amazed. My face was completely clear. No redness, nothing. My skin was quite dry and this lasted about 4 or 5 hourse. It was enough to raise my suspicions. I did some research on chlorine when i got home and found that it is a very strong anti-fungal, anti-yeast, cleanser type deal. I figured that this must have had some sort of effect on the demodex population on my face, whether it washed them off, starved them, or just simply killed them, i dont know. Anyone with a similar experience???
I have had the same exact experience with swimming in a chlorinated pool.
Yes I believe demodex may play apart in rosacea. Apart from medication mentioned earlier. I have a morning and evening routine as follows: A wash with Extra Gentle Cleanser (Neutrogena) (www.neutrogena.com) followed by a application of (Savlon Cream) (chlorhexidine 1mg/g. Cetrimide 5mg/g.) The cream is non greasy and leaves a smooth texture to the skin. It can be tinted with a liquid makeup. Ok. for Girls and Guys. I believe this cream plays a big part in keeping my face free of that burning feeling thats followed by an angry flush. David (Pitanjara)
I need help with demodex!!!a doctor did the tree tea-macadamia nut 50-50 eyelid scrub and my corneas were both scratched and I could not see!!! No one seems to know or be able to really help! Please email me. I am frantic…thank you Suzanne
Hi Suzanne,
Sounds like you are in a bad way. Is there any way that you can get to see an opthalmologist with short notice ?
Did you notice the TTO leaking into you eyes during the scrubs ?
davidp.
I have had rosacea for about 10 years with mostly mild redness. BUT, 4 months ago I broke out with a full blown case of pimples, papules and pustules, cysts, roughness of skin, and extreme redness… I looked hideous. Dermatologist prescribed doxycycline (100mg 2x/day) and metrogel, and said I would have to use it for months or maybe years. I didn’t like the idea of taking strong antibiotics long term so did a lot of research to find the cause, not just treat it temporarily.
I came to believe that demodex mites were the underlying cause. I started on a borax/peroxide treatment I found on Earthclinic website. (See below). It took a long time to work, but after 2 months, it improved greatly. Like most treatments, it got worse before it got better – lots of pus filled pimples erupted and drying out of skin initially. As my skin got smoother, I actually confirmed that I had these mites. I could see them when I examined my face with a strong magnified mirror (15x) by a window with good indirect sunlight. I could just see their heads slightly erupted on the skin. I took a good fine pair of slanted tweezers and could easily pull them out. They look just like the image posted above. I could only see them in the magnified mirror. Everyday I would pull out dozens of them. I suppose they came out when they got poisoned by the borax. It was gross, but I had to do it.
I am on my third month of treatment and my skin is clear and smooth and I only have just some redness left caused by the capillary veins. A few of these mites still show up about every 3 days now, but mostly just on my chin and not nearly as many. I plan to continue this treatment for a while longer. I highly recommend this treatment. I did not have any side effects from the topical or ingested borax.
I also used the oil cleansing method to exfoliate my skin during the bad drying/scabbing period. theoilcleansingmethod.com. It was very gentle and worked quite well on my sensitive skin. And I used only Cetaphil to wash my face, and Cetaphil lotion for moisture. I also added borax to my laundry loads to kill any mites that might be on my sheets and towels.
When I went back to the dermatologist after 2 months, she thought my skin looked so, so much better. I told her I didn’t use the prescriptions and told her about the mites and my homemade treatment. She was suspicious and I offered to show her these mites so she can see them under a microscope but she refused to even look! I can’t believe that most doctors refuse to believe or even investigate the possibility of demodex cause/solution for rosacea.
This is the borax/peroxide/alkalize remedy I used as recommended by Ted at Earthclinic.com:
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand: Firstly a Rosacea can either be a demodectic mites, this is the one I encountered, and or it can be a form of mycoplasma or fungus like organism. The second one is harder to get rid of. In both cases it responds to borax and hydrogen peroxide remedy. Therefore, I had to revised my remedy to deal better the second condition, where usually the borax remedies require (the updated one) 1/8 or 1/4 teaspoon of borax, plus at least 30 drops of hydrogen peroxide 3% in one liter of drinking water. Alkalization is needed still, usually the simplest one, not necessarily the most effective, is 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda in 1/2 glass of water taken once in the morning and once in the evening. However, a more effective one I have found is the use of carbicarb remedy, which requires 1/4 teaspoon of baking soda and 1/4 teaspoon of sodium carbonate (washing soda, both are usually Arm & Hammer’s brand). in 1/2 glass of water taken twice a day. These are the minimum dose, usually for alkalizing that adds to the effectiveness of the remedy, but 10 drops of H2O2 to alkalizing remedy further adds to their effectiveness also.
Use externally: The method of killing them is external application of 1% hydrogen peroxide with borax saturated solution to the face, unrinsed. It tends to cause drying. So you can apply appropriate lotions to prevent drying, such as jojoba oil, aloe vera or lavender oil.”
* Excerpt from:
http://www.earthclinic.com/CURES/rosacea_questions.html
Hi Kate,
could you please email me if earthclinic borax/peroxide=really worked for you without side effects?
And if jojoba oil and others are not actually feeding the mites??I have bad experience with extra virgin olive oil on face as it feels like marching ants and wierd itchy, even though my GP doctor just by looking at me said that- the shiny one next to each other tiny egg-like appearence-on my cheeks is just dry skin and not mites…
I am suffering with Rosacea since 2003, although lately after 15mnths of antibiotics course it worsen rapidly and from little white pimples became bigger blister white pustules which travels around the face and neck with uneven redness, spider web likes routes between them and dry hard bumpy skin. I also suffer from dandruffs and similar things around eyelashes and eyebrows as whole my face is dry-I just wash with hard UK water thats all i use, no creams, cleansing etc. now.
However, will appreciate any kind of info of how to cure Rosacea.
many thanks
fren
please email me on: frrenchie@yahoo.fr
I’ve had the same experience as Red in swimming pools. Many times.
Also, I have always noticed that getting dust on my face is the WORST aggravator of rosacea. I was always really careful of getting dust on my face, or touching my face when I might have dust on my hands. People think I’m neurotic, but I know it has a really bad effect on me. I used to tell my bf not to touch my face with his fingers unless he’d just washed his hands. He thought I was crazy! But now I think it may be related to the mites? Are these the same ones that live in dust?
Hi Davidp,
thanks for stating what is killing the DEMODEX mites (different from bed or home-dust mites, right?), it’s a great help. I would also like to know if anyone think that Seabuckthorn Oil kills DEMODEX mites on face as my skin is very sensitive and I am a bit worried to use the TeaTree oil.
What about NEEM OIL-anyone used it to kill DEMODEX?
Please let us all know
many thanks and good luck
fren
Hi Fren,
I have not been able to find any evidence that Seabuckthorn Oil has any effect on demodex mites. You are well advised to be careful with tea tree oil on your face as it can be very harsh.
Is an oral treatment like Ivermectin a possibility ?
The link between rosacea and demodex is still very preliminary, so please don’t think it is a given that this will guarantee a benefit.
davidp.
Just in regards to neem oil, this paper reviewed here did not mention this as either being effective or not in killing demodex mites.
last year I had mites under skin everywhere couldn`t even touch my own face without spreading them greater i ended up trying over 30 poisoness solutions of doctor not 1 worked..I asked my doctor 2 give me ivermectin lied and got 4 times the amount needed..I tried the required amount.didn`t work left week & half then had another strong dose. this worked a treatment 6 mnths on i kept gettin symtems back however they lie dormant for mnths before visable and my doc wont help.I thought it was scabies last year, I was working with engineering and now again and now I feel em coming back..Only I`ts not dermatites I have cream does nothing any 1 with any comments what are these mites sounds like scabies but i not convinced I been great for 9months now symptoms starting up again
neem oil is a great releaver for anyone with itchy burning or inflamed skin. It soothing properties are the best Ive seen,However it DOES NOT CURE or kill parrasites
I would like to buy ORGANIC Tea Tree 100% Pure Australian Oil (100ml+),
culled from the leaves of a tree (Melaleuca alternifolia), Pharmaceutical Grade of less than 5% cineole and over 35% terpinen-4-ol
which qualifies for “Pharmaceutical Grade”, as established by the Australian Tea Tree Oil Industry Association
and ORGANIC TTO PRODUCTS to Contain the Natural Benefits of Tea Tree Oil (can contain other organic ingredients like Aloe Vera, etc.) but having difficulty to find it free from SLS/SLES, Parabens, phthalates and artificial fragrances etc. or it does not state: PHARMACEUTICAL GRADE and its percentage- I need at least 50% TTO in all products: facial non- soap cleanser, shower gel, shampoo, lotion, cream, deodorant, toothpaste (e.g. 50% tea tree oil with Macadamia nut oil, applied with cotton tip applicators, after one drop of tetracaine, then 20% and 10% tea tree oil ointment for dry inflamed eyelids on Demodex Folliculorum/ Brevis. TTO Products on face- mild pustular ROSACEA).
Anyone there could help (UK London based, it is needed by this Sunday 12/10/2008), please?
Many thanks for any suggestions
Hi All, I wanted to share my real experience with you. For myself I had type 2 rosacea (with pustules) here and there. Very reactive skin. Anyway I tried the z cream, and it significantly brought me into remission, however my problem came back. I believe, I could have stayed on treatment longer, but did not(might have been the problem) Anyway, I have noticed since I bought a certain cream that keeps my skin less oily and protects my capilleries(it is an excellent cream to prevent oily skin) which I had a terrible problem with which mites thrive on, my theory is as long as I use the cream and use less make up, keep my skin from getting oily,//// keeps them away. I seldom flare now, only the odd time under stress, drinking alcohol, however my rosacea has greatly improved. I firmly believe in the demodex and really believe in keeping my skin at bay from these critters taking over again as they caused me alot of grief and THANK GOD for that z cream, which potentially was the proof of my underlying problem, which I was really sceptical as anyone would be. good luck and dont give up!!! I never did.
tamara
Hi Tamara and Everyone,
Well, I was diagnosed with much higher than usual numbers of demodex since my last post. I finally found a good derm and she asked me if she could take some skin samples, without my even suggesting it!
Tamara, I’m confused — is there a second cream that you find helpful, besides ZZ cream? Can you please share the name with us?
Thanks!
Gabriella
gabriella….something else to get rid of the critters…there is borax solution on earth clinic….email me gabriella, I will help you
Tamara, I’m not sure how to email you. Are you the same Tamara on the Yahoo Group — I will try to email you that way.
Thanks!
Gabriella
Hi Everyone, I just want to say that since I found this website, all of you have gave me more hope than I could possibly imagine. I have had Rosacea since 2005 which came out of nowhere during my first pregnancy. It seemed to be going away after I had my son, then I got pregnant again and it was all over my face with pustules and severe redness. I feared taking anything because I did not want to harm my child so I waited until I stopped nursing my second son. I was on Doxycyclin for about 7 months and applied Metrogel twice a day. My Rosacea seemed abou 50% better and I decided at that point taking antibiotics any longer would cause other problems. It has been about 10 months now since I stopped the antibiotics and my face has not had any major flare ups. I still continue to use the Metrogel once a day and use Murad Redness Sensitivity products, cleanser, lotion, etc. My cheeks are still red and I have breakouts of pustules every couple of days. I really do need to get this under control and I am tired of the Metrogel. I do believe however that the Metrogel has kept the problem from worsening. I want to get laser surgery on my cheeks but don’t believe it would be a good idea until I stop these breakouts. Could someone please help me figure out what I should do next? I am confused which product to start with and I do not want to risk having a major flare up and have to start over again. I am kind of stuck on Metrogel and want to use something more natural. Thanks everyone and good luck to all of you. I know I have struggled socially..still do because some stranger has to ask why my face is so red.
Anyway, let me know what you think. Thanks!
Jen
Hi everyone,
Reading all these reviews does not give me hope for none of you really said that some product help to get rid of demotex(mites).
My demodex really spread on my legs and arms and it itch badly.
I also scratch it until it bleeds and then I have scars, awful.
I just order sea buckthorn oil to try and praying it will help.
It fills like something is crawling under my skin and then skin peels off.
I had it since I was a little girl and only had it on my face. Now it is everywhere.
I’m 25 now and devastated, confused hopeless.
If anyone got rid of this demodex completely, Please let me know.
thank you.
Hi! Julie, Are you sure your skin problems are caused by dermodex mite? A Skin Specialist could soon advise you . Just a skin scraping and a 400% magnification examination would detect them. Then you would know for sure. DavidC.
Hi All,
I have been diagnosed to have Demodex. I am 38 years old. Please suggest what to do… I am so depressed… Is her any way to get rid of this mites for ever???
Please help.
Thank you.
Khato,
I was diagnosed a month ago and prescribed Rosac Cream 2 x a day. It is quite harsh on the skin though, so I have been alternating with ZZ Cream (from China, but you can find it online). My skin has already improved quite a bit in only one month. Today I am going to the derm for a follow up appt.
As far as getting rid of them permanently, I have my doubts. From everything I’ve read, it takes a few months to get rid of most and then with continued maintenance (some cream every few days), you can keep them away.
Good luck to you!
Gabriella
Yes, it is demodex mite for when I was sixteen I had skin test.
But as usual they would prescribe some useless creams that do not help.
You know I was thinking to quit eating chocolate and I’m talking junk all these processed cookies and fake candy bars.
I want to start eating good and real staff like organic dark chocolate more organic fruits and veggie; I heard dark chocolate is good for the body.
I read somewhere that processed sugar really messes your metabolism.
Ever since I was a child I ate that junk and I’m not over weight at all I’m 5’3 and 119 pounds.
I was thinking, If my body can’t fight those mites I got to help it.
I was diagnosed years ago with rosacea at a sick visit to my primary dr. I was there for another problem and wasn’t at all bothered when he labeled my red face as rosacea. At that time I never had any pustules or papules, and the flushing was minimal. I actually thought it gave me a healthy glow. About 4 months ago, I noticed 2 bumps on my cheeks and thought it was from too much sun exposure while on vaca in Puerto Rico. I started touching, and aggravating them with creams and lotions. Every day I would wake up to more bumps. Then I noticed the pustules. Soon I realized I had full blown rosacea. My skin became disfigured and I was headed toward a major depression. I decided to buckle down and do some research. At about the same time theses symptoms became worse I noticed significant hair loss and my eyelids were twitching all the time. After researching demodex, I called my derm dr. I told him my theory but he was reluctant, so I told him I would end up purchasing elimite online, so he buckled down and handed over a few prescriptions to deal with the demodex. I applied the elimite to one side of my face and not the other. When I woke up the next morning all the bumps on that side moved to the other side of my face. I was convinced that those nanoinsects found a better breeding ground on the med free side. So now I concluded that I had demodex, but felt more comfortable treating with tea tree oil than the drug. After one total face application I noticed a big difference. It has been one week of daily facial application of tea tree oil and I am rosacea free….. YES ROSACEA FREE! iT IS THAT EASY! I praise tea tree oil for saving my face!
Borax kills them as well. These things can live in your nose, ears, sinus’s, hair, pillows, towels, rugs, etc…
Kill the stuff on the outside of your skin on a weekend…
Tea-tree oil shampoo or add some borax to your existing shampoo, or take a bath with a cup of borax.
then get some niacinamide to kill them on the inside…
then get some sodium ascorbate and take like 6000mg a day for a month to heal your pores.
“I’m still not a believer in the involvement of these critters in rosacea.”
– These things attack dogs as well. Demodectic Mange causes boils and squamous cells. Nasty critters. Talk to a vet.
A little update — I used Rosac daily for a month and then Permethrin (also sold as Elimite) once a week for a month. Today my derm took another skin scraping (actually several) and took a look. She didn’t see any mites.
I have been attacked by Demodex mites. They have totally taken over my scalp. So much so that I feel my hair moving constantly. My hair falls onto my clothes and I can watch it crawl through my clothes. It bites my skin My neck is constantly breaking out, and I can pick litlle dark specs off my skin and even have tiny blue fiber hairs that will come out of my scalp. They have gotten into my eyelashes, eyebrows etc. My face does have that butterfly red look over the forehead, nose, cheeks. Been to a Dermotologist who would not even give me the time of day. They are more active in the late afternoon and of course throughout the evening. I have an overabundance of mucus constantly in my nose as well as choking it up. I wake up to feeling them crawling around my face and of course through my head. I have been using Tee Tree Oil Shampoo for about 2 years now and have not had any improvement. I am totally fed up and feel like I’m doomed with a curse. Would like to know if there is anywhere in Canada that I can buy some relief.
The mayo clinic says Chronic Sinus problems are usually caused by a fungus. These mites dry out your skin, and leave it vulnerable for bad stuff like these sinus infections. You probably have tinea as well.
I guess different concentrations of tea tree oil can be more effective than others. Some of these 2% or 5% shampoos just don’t cut it.
In an extreme case like this, I would definitely order some Kleen Free Enzymic Cleaner over the internet. This stuff eats the mites and turns them to dirt. It’s safe for lice and children and pets.
Note: Don’t get any on your eyes or lips though, or you’ll get a chemical burn.
In the mean time:
a. A pool with a lot of Chlorine can kill them. Or
b. go to your supermarket and get a box of 20 mule borax in the laundry section($4), put 1/2 cup borax 1/2 cup baking soda in a bathtub. Take a bath… anything that turns red has mites (probably a good idea to do over a weekend)… you’re inducing a rosacea reaction in the hopes that you can kill the colony.
Note: Borax is a common ingredient in many acne medications.
c. use a fresh towel and a clean pillowcase after this.
Theresa,
Do a google search on skin fibers. I think you will see what you wrote about. Good luck.
Ive been using metrogel for about a year, in the beggining it was very effective so i kept using it.But now it seems too have lost some of its effectriveness and i need to find something else. Also, I have had some anxiety since using metrogel and I am wondering if metrogel actually can cause anxiety as a side effect,I dont like the idea of using lots of oral atibiotics and I would like to try borax, internally. Is it really very effective?
Metrogel is an anti-fungal, metronid-azole.
There are different reasons for skin problems.
One kind is acne vulgaris, or large staph scabs. I don’t think you have this if the antifungal was working. For this bacterial kind, extra vitamin c would probably help.
Unfortunately, vitamin c doesn’t kill fungus. It may boost your immune system, which isn’t a bad thing.
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It would appear I have a fungal problem, with Tinea, dandruff, ringworm, etc…
Anti-fungal drugs would seem to be: Niacinamide(vitamin b-3), Acetic Acid(Vinegar), Boric Acid(Borax), the azole drugs, various other jock-itch/toenail fungus medications, fluconazole(diflux), itraconazole, ketoconazole(nizoral shampoo).
I myself am experimenting with some of these now… I’m not cured so I can’t recommend internal use.
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This study shows a 2% borax, 2% vinnegar shampoo to be more effective than some of the azoles. http://www.dermapet.com/articles/pilot.html
I think itraconazole is one of the stronger azoles, I haven’t tried it yet though. Apparently sometimes for tinea, they’ll give you this stuff to take 2x day for 2 months. I’m no doctor though, and I haven’t tried it.
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What I am personally trying is:
external:
2 tsp borax added to my head & shoulders shampoo
clotrimazole(1%) on tinea
internal (2x day):
500 mg Niacinamide
Drink:
2 tbps Vinnegar neutralized with baking soda
1/8 tsp borax
2000 mg C (sodium ascorbate)
Orange Juice (it has potassium)
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I only started this a week ago, so I don’t know how it will turn out.
Boric acid is found in some fruits… it cured a twitchy eye in my case. There is a european recommendation on safe dosage, if you are considering taking this internally, you should probably research a bit.
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Note: If you have a fungus problem, sometimes this stuff can transfer to your hands and fingernails, and then to other places (it can be mildly contagious).
Disclaimer: I am not a doctor or dermatologist, and am not qualified to give medical advice.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactoferrin
It would seem that Lactoferrin, found in dairy and meat, also acts as a fungicide as well.
To Kate and Rich:
I wonder what kind of Borax you are talking about. Is it 20 mule borax from supermarket? Is it safe to ingest 20 mule borax?
Garlic also has anti-fungal properties. It may be worth a shot.
From the 20 mule borax, I’ve had no ill effects (although I used small doses)… as I said, a twitchy eye has disappeared. I haven’t seen any good long term studies though on this… maybe try the other stuff before experimenting with this one, or research it more.
That being said, perhaps I will go back to the derm and try the itraconazole solution. Here is a website from a doctor that talks about some fungal problems:
http://doctorfungus.org/
Note: the borax i tried was small doses, 1/8th teaspoon, and heavily diluted as well.
Study on Garlic:
http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/garlic-000245.htm
Too much borax can turn blood vessels red, and potentially cause damage… so perhaps be careful with this one… and not everyday if you want to try it.
Garlic has Selenium and Sulfur, just like the dandruff shampoo. Sulfur kills fungus. So perhaps try some garlic pills every few hours. If you get garlicy breath, then you’ve had enough or too much.
i think that the papules and pustules and inflamacion of the skin in rosacea are caused by the demodex mites, and the redness and the broken capilaries are caused by an nanoinsect not yet identifided that is causing the redness and the broken capilaries not to heal, so when you use borax an peroxide hidrogen in your skin you are killing these two agents organisms, so maybe thats why they say that rosacea is caused by an weakened inmuned system, beacuse you body is not able to kill this agents, so maybe if you give strength and optimized your inmuned system, you body will be able to kill these organisms, and the way to do that its taking a suplement called ¨cats claw¨ (uncaria tomentosa) that is known for its antiinflamatory properties and to strength your inmuned system, you can search by yourselfs to see all the benefits that it has, and maybe that could be a good alternative of treating rosacea or it could be the cure. The other one that im thinking is the blood of the cocodrile aplied topicaly to the face since its a new discovery that the blood of the cocodrile are much better and extremely potencial that any antibiotic that exists and you can search in the internet the news of the potencial of the benefits killing these agents, so because of the potencial that it has killing all these agents it could be another alternative to rosacea.
The interaction between fungus and macrophages has been documented in the past. This rosacea stuff kind of looks ringworm like.
Besides killing insects, borax is anti-fungal. I suspect iodine deficiency to play a role in rosacea (iodine is anti-fungal).
Iodine deficiency can sometimes be the cause of fibrocystic breast disease, PCOS, various skin conditions, etc…
If someone wants to try borax/peroxide in the morning, and betadine(providone) at night, I bet they would find some success.
“broken capilaries” are a bad sign… that can sometimes be a warning sign for heart disease. There is a treatment for that as well: http://www.hearttech.com/
Many people have had some success with Vitamin C and Lysine (the linus pauling protocol). Theoretically, both are necessary for collagen production.
i recently went to the dermatologist for winter skin , i needed something soothing. (i spend a lot of time in hockey rinks with the kids, and out shoveling snow.) She informed me, by doing a skin oil test i have a lot of demodex. this actually was my 1st time ever seeing a dr. for my skin,( i’m 40.andhave always been very careful with my face since a bad sunburn at age 12.) she said permetherin would do the trick. i used it that night and awoke with a red, burning face, pores so enlarged and shriveled skin like an old orange peel. it has been one week, and still the same symptoms. they said use hydrocortizone cream. it still hurts and looks same,but greasy now. there are no dermatologists who have appointments for new patients until at least 3 wks. or longer. is there anyone who can advise me in what to do? will this damage last forever. i am very scared.
Kleen-free is a safe enzymic mite killer, eats the bugs and their eggs and turns them to dirt… so long as you don’t get any in your eyes or lips/mouth.
Borax kills them as well, and is safe.
50%(5 mins) or 100%(15 mins) tea-trea-oil scrubs kills them, too.
hlmo8,
I’d call the derm you saw and tell him/her what happened! I was Rx’d permethrin and did not have this problem, but have heard of others who have.
I would treat my skin very gently and carefully until I could see a derm — do you have a super gentle cleanser and good moisturizer? Hypo-allergenic would probably be best. Maybe Vanicream or Aquaphor?
Good luck!
Gabriella (PS If you used the permethrin overnight, that should have been enough to kill most demodex, except the eggs. This would require another treatment in about a week. Maybe look into Ivermectin (oral rather than topical)?
Hi David Copley,
I am just wondering how on earth it is that taking an antidepressant can possibly eliminate rosacea syptoms??? Please explain.. I am very interested in hearing the theory or science behind this. Also, just wanted to add that I have had rosacea symptoms appear about 2 years ago, and hate it, with a passion.. Have spent so much money trying to fight it. Have been on doxycycline 100 mg for that whole time, niacinamide, and finacea. Worked great in the beginning, but recently had been getting much worse. More concentrated on my nose. And, gotta admit, when it’s real bad, I do not leave my apartment. It seems to have stolen a lot of my self confidence. Though I’m perfectly fine and confident when it is in a calm state, and my skin is bright and clear. It fluctuates constantly. Recently, the last 2 weeks maybe, I read an article about Lysine and am currently taking Lysine with BioFlavanoids and I take a whole lot of other supplements.. I’ve been trying over the years to fight this by increasing my immunity.Which probably does make a difference, but has not eradicated it. However, the Lysine, as of right now, has started to clear my skin up, I think this is a good sign. I started on a rather high dose, too high really than I should have. I wanted to rush it to work. So, I started at 3,000 mg, and experienced constipation and digestive discomfort. I am now down to 2 pills of 635 mg, 1 in morning, 1 at night. Digestive discomfort had gone away, so we’ll see if my face continues to clear. I should also add, that at the same time, I started up with taking my probiotic pills again. Have also started up with Hylauronic Acid in capsule form for dryness. And, have read about the anti-inflammatory properties of Nettle leaf, so have started taking one a day. More notably, I also believe that the fact that I have once again started taking at least 2 tsp of Active Manuka Honey, to boost immune system, and to kill any helicopter pylori that may be inside my stomach or intestines. It kills those buggers easily, also, even kills the deadly evil superbug MRSA, antibiotic resistant staph infection. I’ve had that too unfortunately a couple years ago, and believe me that is hell to endure. It was on the side of my face, and spread, this is the ONLY thing that actually kills the MRSA dead, and encourages healing in the new skin. Better than any prescriptions known to man. A natural healer. It heals ulcers, cuts, infection, etc.. it’s amazing!! You can also use it as a mask for like 15 min to kill any bugs on your face. However, do not leave as a mask on your face overnight, unless you have MRSA, then use bandage, and leave on for 12 hrs straight before cleaning and reapplying. If you just leave on normal skin overnight, it will irritate skin and clog pores cause it’s so thick. Check out the manuka honey, IT WORKS!!! It comes from honey made from the tea tree bush in New Zealand.. much more powerful than tea tree oil!! Here is the link http://www.manukahoneyusa.com/ManukaHoney.htm
I also notably have bought pure burdock root tea, and have started drinking that every night, along with green tea. I’m sure it does make a difference too. Also, carrot juice every morning, my hair and nails even grow faster after I started that routine. I spend a lot of time researching this disease and how to build my immunity, and achieve health and wellness. So hopefully some of this helps you. I also use pure jojoba oil after I get out of shower, I drop some oil on fingers and apply to face when still damp. I wipe off excess. It controls sebum production. Oh also, one more thing, so sorry, but this is a heavenly all natural product that is superb for my skin, and I believe makes a huge difference in controlling my rosacea, as well as treating aging, cysts, sunburn, dry skin, oily skin.. amazing.. It’s called buddha butter, and it comes in a small tin, and it’s an ointment, you rub it on your face and make sure you massage it into your face thoroughly to enhance all the effects of the product, the herbs, etc. The link is http://www.buddha-butter.com/. Last thing is Aloe Vera juice, great for digestion and maintaining healthy skin; also increases the efficacy of supplements. Take it once a day. I have not found that the rumored essential enzymes are necessary for everybody with rosacea, as some sites might suggest. Some people may have this problem as individuals, but I found that it just made me feel terrible, and gave me digestion problems. Haven’t yet properly experimented with the HCL that is supposed to increase acid production in stomach to help digest foods.. don’t know if that’s necessary, read about speculation to be tied to rosacea. But not so sure about that. And, haven’t tried Borax, don’t know if I really want to. And, haven’t experimented much with the Apple Cider Vinegar theory either. Might try that soon, don’t know yet.. Still testing to see the results of the combo of Lysine(with BioFlavanoids, Zinc, and Vit c), Manuka Honey and Burdock Tea. Oh, I also am taking again Royal Jelly and Propolis. You can read about them on the Manuka Honey site. Bees create fabulous things.. The Royal Jelly is the jelly made by bees, specifically for the Queen Bee, the healthiest, longest living, most plump bee of the hive. Propolis is a sticky substance they create to sanitize the hive. And, Bee Pollen too, gives energy, etc.. These are just some suggestions. I have found them useful, personally. One more thing, Flax Seed Oil, Omega 3s, natural anti inflammatory, I believe does help rosacea too. Anyways, take care, and good luck in your fight against this terrible condition. I believe that it can be held at bay, with the right supplements. Oh, Clinique Redness Clinique cream is very comforting and moisturizing, Murad Cleansing Gel is great, it has hydrogen pyroxide, and is gentle. Murad treatment gel, these products are from his rosacea line. The moisturizer is no good though, don’t bother. Shiseido eye cream is expensive but heavenly moisturizing and soothing. Perricone moisturizer is super great but ridiculously expensive. The Perricone ceramic skin smoother is best buy, really smoothes skin, fights aging, smooths fine lines, and really diminishes pores. Lastly, Perlabella Q10 capsules for face is super great for repairing skin. I’ve only seen this in some Walgreens, might be online. Prosacea in Walgreens, isn’t bad as a cheap rosacea treatment, but only works up to an extent. And, one definite warning for those with rosacea, my advice is DO NOT USE anything from Kinerase, it made me break out extremely bad, took weeks to recover, no product has ever been so detrimental to my skin. Even had deep cysts as a result of just a few days use. Awful product. Though some with completely normal skin may not have problems with it, it’s not for those with sensitive skin, and rosacea, or I would imagine, acne. Just wanted to warn you about that. Hope this helps you. I have tested out a lot of products, and this is what I would recommend. The Finacea cream, by prescription works well though too, to keep rosacea under control, though, it can be pretty harsh on your skin sometimesI am still on the doxycycline until I have found a proven alternative that actually consistently works. Hopepefully, I will be able to get off it soon, if this new regimen works. Good Luck to you all!!
Paroxetine is a fluoro-phenyl, or antifungal. I’m not too fond of fluoride, when it seems like iodine is the halide that we need instead(Thyroid Hormone, etc…). Iodine can kill off candida, ringworm, onychomychosis, and many fungus’s. Seems to work faster than probiotics.
As for the Manuka Honey, I like honey. It is sugar with vitamins and hydrogen peroxide. Plus a little sweeter than sugar.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paroxetine
“The efficacy of paroxetine for depression is comparable to that of older tricyclic antidepressants with fewer side effects.[1][2] Differences with newer antidepressants are subtler and mostly confined to side effects. It shares the common side effects and contraindications of other SSRIs, with high rates of nausea, somnolence, and sexual side effects. Unlike two other popular SSRI antidepressants fluoxetine and sertraline, paroxetine is associated with a clinically significant weight gain[3] and statistically significant increase in the risk of suicidal tendencies in both adults[4] and children.[5] Stopping paroxetine may result in a discontinuation syndrome.”
For some people, I imagine iodine deficiency may be the cause, and may cure rosacea.
Scientists Discover Clues To Rosacea Skin Ailment
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/78839.php
http://www.amazon.com/Iodine-Without-Brownstein-Bottle-Fashioned/dp/B000I2MMSI
“I’m positive it was the iodine that helped me get over rosacea”
hey i had a question, i was taking a bath and shaved my body while i had scabie and i used the jet to clean the inside of my vagina. is it possible the scabies entered my body and are inthe inside of my stomach? it really hurts and i feel a tingly feeling inside.
I have had rosacea (pustular) and reddening for several years. I baulked at the thought of the chemicals the doctor wanted to put me on and researched for myself. It has been mentioned above already, but I got releif after only 10 days using Zhong Zhou (ZZ) cream from China. It is Zindc and Sulfur based with haerbal inclusions. I source it from Jamu Shop online (a Singapore based shop, pay with paypal and I have had no issues bringing this into Australia – I am not affiliated in any way with this shop other than as a very happy customer). The high sublkimated sulfur content seesm effective in killing the critters, but the reduction of the redness to an almost pale pink, and 95% reduction in papules in itself is a huge releif. I’ve thrown away the makeup – as a male I never liked it but was too emabrrassed to go out without it. Thankyou Zhong Zhou.
On the Mend.
I think you are beyond sane advice.
My previous comment was directed to #52.
“It is Zinc and Sulfur based”
I suspect a Selsun Blue or Head and Shoulders Selenium Sulfide may help with Rosacea. However, if you leave it on too long (over night), you may get some peeling(so wash off after a little while).
Supposedly, you can buy Selenium Sulfide lotion. This stuff should theoretically kill the demodex(Sulfur), and perhaps an underlying fungus or yeast.
Selenium Sulfide should cure age spots (if they are tinea, caused by either tricophyton or Malasezia Furfur).
Niacinamide gel supposedly cures wrinkles.
I am an RN. One of the derm fellows here at the hospital clued me in on the demodex mites. He took skin scrapings and looked at them under the microscope–yep, my skin was full of the buggers! I used topical premethrin as well as ivermectin by mouth–this cleared up the pustules and redness. Now, I have to use them approximately every three months. My skin sometimes looks so good that I forget! When this happens, I break out again and sometimes it takes a couple of weeks for my skin to clear. This is my regimen:
1. Premethrin 5% topically on my face and other affected areas (I get occasional pustules on my back.)for 24 hours.
2. Ivermectin PO. I take 12mg/day for a couple of days. Dose must be adjusted to your weight.
This has been quite effetive for me.
Do you wanna kill demodex? my theory? buy a parasite zapper. It kills all pathogens, fungus, bacteria, viruses, worms. I’m sure I have demodex mites in me, my arms and legs already show. I’m gonna get one of those zappers next month, and try it. google this..Hulda Clark parasite zapper..or just “parasite zapper”. They said, it clears your skin from pimples and other allergies/disorders. It only uses a small radiowave current to boost your immune system and kill all parasites. Only 9v, so it won’t harm you. I’ll try it, and will update you once it’s done.
#52 anonomus: Ignore what On the mend said. That is not helpful when you have medical worries, no matter how weird what you did sounds.
What you did is called a ‘douche’ and is not a smart thing for any woman to do as it washes away the helpful bacteria that keeps thrush at bay. So what you feel now may be the onset of thrush, and if you feel itchy and sore externally as well, go to your pharmacist and get some Canesten in cream, pessary or tablet form. Or anything else with clotrimazole in. That will sort your problem.
Secondly there is no route via the vagina to the stomach or intestinal area. The female reproductive area is ‘self contained’.
Don’t douche and don’t fear having carried scabies inside. You didn’t!
Now let’s get back to rosacea, demodex mites etc
I started using the face doctor soaps with sea buckthorn oil, no more Rosacea breakouts!!! It is finally under control! I had it bad, my nose was huge and red, red puffy cheeks, my eyes, it almost seemed like it would migrate from one side to the other. Sunlight hurt and stung it. I guess those creepy little mites don’t like the light. I suspect I picked it up in a hotel when I was force moved to San Jose for my work. It was that or all the horrible stress of the job killed my immune system. I fought this Rosacea for several years, I tried metrogel and several other topicals, loads of antibiotics, these helped to hold it at bay but did not get rid of it. Now I use the soaps as maintenance, I use the face surgeion soap whenever my nose looks a bit puffy, it seems to be a warning sign. Try the face doctor soap if you have rosacea, it worked for me, a doctor told me about it, I could never be more grateful!
Robin (#11): I hope you see this!
I’m totally with you on the dust problem — I thought I was the only one. I live in an extremely dusty environment: Near the beach, on a busy street, under a flight path and with a dog. My apartment has horrible air flow and ranges from very warm in the winter to unbearably hot in the summer, which means my windows are open 24/7.
It’s impossible to keep the dust completely under control. That can’t be good, but it is possible to go for weeks and weeks with (relatively) clear skin. However, it’s when I actually try to clean that I get my worst flare-ups. Once the dust starts moving around I’m sunk for days — if I’m lucky.
I’ve just discovered this mite/rosacea connection so I don’t know much about it, but before now I’d never heard any mention of a dust/rosacea connection. I was disappointed that no one else responded to your post but had to let you (and everyone else!) know that I can corroborate your story.
I just bought one of those portable a/c units andf the last few days are the first time in 5 years my windows have stayed closed. The dust is the only trigger I’ve had no control over, so the a/c is my last hope. I’ll be monitoring the top of the coffee table to see if this reduces the speed of the dust build-up
I recently read several articles regarding these pesky little mites… and now Im even more convinced. I have been to several dermatologists, have been on several antibiotics (some much stronger than others ie, Doxycycline, amoxicillian, retina A, accutane, clyndamycin) and have had ZERO success. In fact, I actually think its gotten worse!I have shown the dr many of my lesions that have now migrated from my face to my entire body. I itch everywhere and chlorine defiantely seemed to help things out! But I can’t live my life in a swimming pool and Im exhausted from all the medications and doctors visits…I’ve commented to them that the “crawling” sensation is driving me crazy and effecting my sleep and they still tell me its Keratosis Pilaris. How do I get the dr to LISTEN to me!?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keratosis_pilaris
“In fact, I actually think its gotten worse!”
– If antibiotics are causing this thing to get worse, than let’s assume it’s fungal in nature. Wiki seems to say Coconut Oil (an antifungal), sometimes helps.
Certainly bed bugs are one cause of rashes… you put the doctors cream on, and they move to another location. I don’t think that’s the case here, though.
Vicks Vapor Rub has two nice antifungals (Peppermint Oil and Eucalyptus Oil). Perhaps you are willing to experiment with that, on an inconspicuous place.
Selsun Blue seems to treat some rashes.
Providone Iodine plus Borax plus water helps with others.
Another alternative is Desitin Diaper Rash cream (40% Zinc Oxide)(some people don’t like the smell).
If you get a positive response to any of these or all of these, at least you know what you’re dealing with. Just some friendly advice from a non-doctor.
I ran into a nice folk remedy on this disorder, Keratosis Pilaris. A few people had some success by applying Apple Cider Vinnegar to the rash. This one costs a buck at the supermarket.
Note: ACV is a common treatment for Ringworm Yeast/Fungus.
Not too sure, that will help. In many cases, I can pull out white “worm” looking things from my hair follicules… They’re hard and don’t “smush” and almost look like a maget. GROSS!!!! I’ve also read that that these mites cause staph infections…. and I’ve was recently diagnosed as being a “carrier”.. whatever that means. Thats when they gave me the clindamycin and a soap called TetraCare. Needless to say… it didn’t work. I have tried the “Vicks” remedy tho. Not for the mites BUT I was told that Vicks helps heal bruising and since Im incredibly clumsy, I use Vicks A LOT!
If you suspect demodex then, remedies are:
A. Kleenfree (non-toxic enzymic bed bug spray)(treats lice, too)
B. Borax/Peroxide (a treatment for dog mange)
C. Tea-tree oil (discussed on this website)
D. Premethrin Creme discussed by RoseD above.
E. Lice shampoo (note: this one sometimes has side-effects of turning faces red for a week).
Comment via email from Jayne;
Angela,
Have your doctor test you for Lupus. Before being diagnosed with rosacea, my entire body broke out in a rash. I am a medical professional. I went to the dermatology clinic in the hospital and was diagnosed with “arthropod bites” (insects) because I went on Tuesday and had been working in the garden the previous weekend. This was five or six years ago.
The rash continued to recur in different places, like on my legs and back. It caused unsightly scars. I was given steroid creams but none of them helped.
About 3 years ago, I had recurrent acne breakouts. I was diagnosed with “classic rosacea” by 3 dermatologists. I took all the medications you mentioned; none were effective.
I finally did my own research because all my joints ached and I was tired when I had these breakouts. Initially, I thought it was due to the medication I was taking for rosacea. I finally went to a sympathic doctor who was, actually, a friend. She was a new Yale grad. She drew my blood and I tested positive for Lupus.
Since I have been on meds for the Lupus, I have not had any breakouts or rashes anywhere. This has changed my life. I was calling in sick to work because of all the pustules on my face and rash on my back. I could not wear clothes that revealed my legs or back. I had to “bundle up” rather than wearing a nice dress that showed off my slim figure to my daughter’s wedding.
I no longer break out in rashes or acne. This young doctor, Jennifer, literally saved my life. She was “new” enough to have a fresh point of view and was willing to take a look at all possible causes.
Being an advanced practice RN, I’m going to give you advice that I would give to my patients: Go to a different doctor, go to an APRN, a holistic medicine practioner, etc. Do not stop going to different practioners until you find someone who will LISTEN to you and cure your illness.
In the meantime, I must tell you to stop using facial cleansers. Use soap–Dove or Neutrogena on your face and other affected areas. This really helped me.
Jayne
Demodex Mites seem to be definitely linked to AR. I have been applying ZZ ointment – also known as ZOSSO or Zhong Zhou Ointment – for 3 months now. My symptoms of papular rosacea have subsided completely now. I know that crawly feeling described by Angela and I swear I felt these mirating from the nasal/cheek area as I applied the ointment. As that area cleared up I widened the application and have now lost both the crawly sensations and the ugly roscea acne like eruptions. My reddened skin is now juts a pink – not much different from normal. I continue to apply the iontment sparingly as I believe it is a control not a cure. I have thrown away everything else I had tried over the years.
Please, have a look at this siye – the one I use – i am not affiliated with them but it worked for me. There is a lot of information here especially about demodex.
http://www.thejamushop.com/Rosacea.htm
Hello. I found what kills demonez roseca mites!!!Metrogel did not work. China Z-cream worked some,but not enough. Also, all sorts of other methods hardly worked at all. Now I know what works!!! “Snowseal,” a product used for leather works to kill demonex mites. It is bee’s wax based with some petroleum products mixed with it. It does work. Also, I found that a product called “Bestyet” works better to kill the bacteria associated with Roseca just under the skin. It is 10% cedar oil and a penetratant to soak into the skin. After the mites are gone try to use a product called “OCuSOFT” to help keep them away. All of these products are very inexpensive. Enjoy!
Thank God for this website! I have been out of my mind for the last five years! Eight doctors, two derms, and an eye doctor! Thay are all in denial!!! I used the Kwellada lotion on my face it is the first bit of relief I have had in five years! I know its demodex, they wont even do a skin scrape or hair follicle test, they all keep saying demodex is not harmful, its benign. My cat is scratching and licking herself all the time and then she gets sores all around her mouth. As soon as I mention this they think i am crazy, it couldn’t possibly be that they only occur on humans. Its just a case of adult acne – take tetrocycleine for 6 months. They are all DINGDONGS!!!
Hi,
I have had extreme pustular(green pus) like boils on the chin, forehead, nose. And the itching was awful. I was on antibiotics, metrocream/ointment. Now I am on accutane, which is helping with the inflammation. It is better, BUT still have itchy spots and spots that want to come back, in the same place. It is bad:( And it totally feels like something is on my skin, and when I scrape it off, it feels better. And it hurts like a needle in in my face. My hair is sticking out, and it seems like I have more hair on my face, because the follicles are inflammed. I have a couple little spots on my arms, but that is it. All the docs have no answer for this and say it is bad acne. It is not acne!!!!!!!!!!! And now my son has tiny little bumps that come and go. They respond well to tea tree oil and zinc cream. So no help from the docs. Will accutane help with this problem?????
thanks to all:)
Hey everyone –
Lots of great info here. I noticed a few posts where people mentioned pets and demodex. There’ s research out there that suggests tea tree oil is quite TOXIC to cats. For anyone tempted to treat a cat with tea tree oil, don’ t do it. Unlike dogs, cats’ liver and kidney function is not adequate to clear tea tree oil (which is easily absorbed through their skin & which they lick off) from their systems.
Stewarts Royle Rascal, 18 year old sheltie, had hair falling out. Consulated Holestic Vetenary. Was advised to cover with Vasline twice each day for two weeks. Then advise of results. Hair was returning.
This type Mange caused by Demodex Cannis.
Had lost my eyebtows, eye lashes. had consulted dermotolighst, advised not mites! Nothing to lose, started Vasline twice each day aroud eyes and eye lids.
Been two years, Lashes and brows slowly returning. DO NOT EXPECT INSTANT GRADIFICATION.
Now would like to determine method to stop head hair lose. Guess they must be migrating.
For an even better treatment try:
1.) Apply “teatreeoil” strait. (E-Bay)
2.) After about an hour apply “Sno-Seal” (They use it
for leather products. It contains beeswax and other
ingredients.) (E-Bay or area stores)
3.) After about an hour apply “OCuSOFT PLUS” foam
(especially at night). (Drug stores)
I have found that by doing this throughout the day Rosecea Demonex Mites will eventually become less and less upon me. I have tried many products and found this to be the ONLY thing that really does work. I recently had a flareup and found this to be the cat’s ass. But it is not a cure, and never will be. Mike
Re #71.
I would avoid Accutane (Isotretinion) if at all possible. That was the option they were offering me and what inspired me to look for other options outside regular GPs. Accutaine and Roaccutain are not without issues. They are quite harsh on the liver and most GPs will insist on regular blood tests (LFTs or Liver Function Tests) to be specific. I have worked in Clinical Pathology for many years now and am well aware of this. As you can see in preceeding posts, I prefer the ZZ cream, but there are many other avenues suggested by others here also. Accutaune? Last resort only in my opinion, and if you are preganat or intending to become, it is not a good option for you.
Most important fact about this drug:
Because Accutane can cause severe birth defects, including mental retardation and physical malformations, a woman must not become pregnant while taking it. If you are a woman of childbearing age, your doctor will ask you to sign a detailed consent form before you start taking Accutane. If you accidentally become pregnant while taking the medication, you should immediately consult your doctor.
More common accutane side effects may include:
Conjunctivitis (“pinkeye”), dry or fragile skin, dry or cracked lips, dry mouth, dry nose, itching, joint pains, nosebleed
Less common accutane side effects may include:
Bowel inflammation and pain, chest pain, decreased night vision, decreased tolerance to contact lenses, delay in wound healing, depression, fatigue, headache, nausea, peeling palms or soles, rash, skin infections, stomach and intestinal discomfort, sunburn-sensitive skin, thinning hair, urinary discomfort, vision problems, vomiting
MY FACE IS CLEAR FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE I WAS A KID!
This is rather long, sorry. I really hope it can help someone though.
I took accutane when I was in my 20′s for bad acne. It did clear it up… no more acne. However, it did nothing to get rid of the Rosacea the dermots say I have. My face was ALWAYS some shade between med-pink to dark red. I had not seen the true color of my face since I was a kid. It has always been the bain of my vanity.
I got sick of trying to cover up my red face with makeup (yuck); but I had tried every cream, ointment, antibiotic etc. on the market (prescription and non)… to no avail. I wish I had back all of that money I spent.
Recently I started trying the homeopathic approach… A few months ago, I stopped wearing makeup and stopped using ALL commercial facial cleansers and other facial products… period. I won’t even get my face wet in the shower (except overspray from washing my hair).
What I used instead was a tea tree oil mix (I conconcted this after many hours of research):
In a sterilized 4 oz glass bottle, I mixed 20 drops of pure organic tea tree oil, 20 drops of pure organic lavender oil, 1/2 teaspoon of pure organic vegetable glycerin and filled the bottle the rest of the way up with purified water (NO TAP WATER!).
I put this on my face every morning after I get out of the shower (with a saturated cotton ball). It didn’t take long before my face started looking MUCH better.
Then I read about demodex mites (never heard of them before) and how tea tree oil can kill them. So I started using a stronger tea tree oil mix on my face at night before going to bed. And IT WORKED!! My face is almost completely clear. It still has a very slight pink tinge on my cheeks, but that could be because I am Irish! (This nighttime mix is 50% tea tree oil and 50% purified water ONLY). I have to shake it well before applying cause oil and water don’t mix… NOTE: you never want to put full strength tea tree oil on your skin (it will burn it!).
My face looks better than it ever has in my life!! And, for the first time ever, I think putting makeup on would detract from my looks! WOW!!!! I never thought I would be able to say that!
I hope you find the thing is right for you too! Don’t give up, the cure it out there, it might just take time to find the one that is right for you!!
Good Luck!!!
P.S. If you do feel like you need to rinse your face with water, keep a gallon jug of purified water from the grocery store in your bathroom and use it with cotton balls. Unless you have a good filter on your water at home you NEVER want to use tap water. I have found that tap water aggrevates my skin (probably the chlorine, flouride and God knows what else is in there).
I’ve had 2 years of pulse dye laser treatment for the redness which has cleared the worst of the redness but it’s reached a point where the appearance of spots every now and again is exaccerbating skin inflamation and the derm doc has said they won’t do any more laser until the spots are under control. Unfortunately I am allergic to anything with metronizadole in it and having tried every other kind of antibiotic to no avail I am quite relieved as each time I’ve had the laser done it’s been 2 weeks of hiding and 3 – 4 weeks of scars but worth the end result.
I live in the UK and I have found a Tea Tree ointment for skin from Boots the chemist (with the homeopathic and herbal remedies). It’s great! As soon as I get any red spots or ‘pustules’ out comes the ointment and they clear up in no time.
I also have the Chinese ZZ crea but it dries the skin out terribly, so I am experimenting with alternate days of ZZ and tea tree ointment. Works well so far!
Hi UK Anon,
That’s great! One thing to caution you of though, after a few days of putting the 50% TTO and 50% purified water mix on my face, my face started to burn and peel. The mixture was too strong.
I now use the 50% TTO mix only once every couple of weeks and use the diluted mixture (see my email above) every day.
I also found a great moisturizer I can use on my skin and it seems to help even more (yippee). It’s called Peace Lotion. It’s an aromatherapy massage lotion (who’da thunk?) made from all organic and natural oils, pimarily lavendar and chamomile. It has spearmint in it which really cools my skin and makes if feel fresh. It’s made by Earth Therapeutics. After using my TTO diluted mixture every morning, I apply the lotion (sometimes I even use it twice a day). It’s really awesome!
I really am loving the way my skin looks!!
Peace.
Hello again. After my last bout with demonex mites and rosecea I finally found what seems to work the best. I have tried all of the other solutions, and they have failed me somewhat in one way or another. For my face twice a day I first put on what is called “Best Yet” (You will find it on a search engine. It consists of 10% Cedar Oil and a skin penetrant.), and after that I put on OCuSOFT Plus foam (You can find this in most drug stores. Also, you will find on the internet that this company claims that it does kill demonex mites). During the day I carry around a small bottle of Teatree Oil, and use it strait only on the areas that seem to give me trouble. My skin is now without rosecea and mites! Plus, this treatment costs very little! I hope someone will try it. I would like to help someone like me who was really suffering, as well as someone who was not respected by the doctors who should know better.
You can buy “BEST YET” at http://www.cedarcidestore.com or at 1-800-842-1464. A Qt. size bottle costs $29.95, and a 4 oz. spray bottle will cost $9.95. Also, OCuSOFT PLUS FOAM can be found at most drug stores, and Teatree Oil can be found on E-bay in a fairly large size bottle. Remember, first apply the Best Yet to the face, and after a minute or two apply the OCuSOFT Plus Foam (this seems to seal in the Best Yet, and restrict the mite activity). During the day apply Teatree Oil strait only on the troubled areas that give you trouble. You may also need to remove skin crusted areas that the mites make and live. The skin disorders associated with Rosecea should also disappear. The Best Yet seems to kill the bacteria under the skin that is associated with Rosecea. You should be both Rosecea and demonex mite free within a month of treatment. Relief though should come soon after starting this treatment.
seriously,
I never knew, demodex is also attack human, and I still never can imagine, how can a demodex is in a human body?
what I know is, someone who get demodex is someone who is not keeping their hygiene enough. well well…
Seriously SB…
You must think that only people who are not “clean” have dust mites too? I have news for you, even the people most obsessed with cleanliness have dust mites and yes demodex mites too. Also, everybody has bacteria all over their body no matter how often they cleanse themselves. Yes, it’s all true!
If you had done your research, you would also know that Demodex mites are extremely common and very hard to kill. They estimate that over 75% of people have Demodex mites, but most are not allergic to them. Most anti-biotics and pesticides won’t even kill them let alone the anti-bacterial soap you use to wash your skin (which doesn’t even phase them). So, SB, no matter how clean you are or how obsessed about your hygeine… you too my friend most likely have demodex mites! “Oh God, no… say it isn’t so!” Sorry mate, it is! Hopefully though you are not one of few that are allergic to them.
Hi,
I have been dealing with some facial rashes for almost 18 yrs. First the dermatologist said it was dermatitis and then recently my physician wanted to send me back to the Dermatologist thinking it was Rosecea.
Reading over this website, I ordered the Chinese cream – ZZ-My face is extremely dry and flaky and no matter what i put on it, the dryness will not go away.
Anyone reading this try the ZZ cream? What were your results and is this a sign of healing?
My face gets blotchy, red, dry circular shape spots on it from time to time…but then sometimes it takes days or more to go away. I think it has something to do with my hormones too since it seems to be worse around my menstrual cycle.
Also, about 7 years ago, I was seeing an Allergist, taking a paraway cleanse and spraying some food grade peroxide mixed w/ H20 on my face. It took a while, but seemed to do so much better until recently. (the allergist also had me on a VERY STRICT food allergy diet).
Does this seem to coincide w/ Rosecea to anyone?
She1218,
I have not tried the Z cream. I have read about it and seems that most people have good results with it.
I also have Rosacea and had very bad acne as a teenager and into my twenties.
Nothing has worked as well for me as the Tea Tree Oil mix I make.
I gave a bottle of it to a girl that I work with, whom also has bad cystic acne and dry skin. She has used it for approx. 3 weeks and her skin is almost completely clear. Her last few bumps are almost gone and she hasn’t gotten any new ones. Her skin looks great and mine has never looked better. I don’t even wear a stitch of makeup or moisturizer anymore (if you knew how vain I am, you would know what a miracle that is).
In case you want to try it, here’s the ingredients:
4 oz sterilized glass bottle
20 drops of organic Tea Tree Oil
20 drops of organic Lavender Oil
20 drops of Roman Chammomile
1/2 teaspoon organic all vegetable glycerin
Fill the rest of the way with purified water (not tap water)
Do not use any other cleansers on your face. After you get out of the shower, wipe your face down with the above mixture (shake well before using). Let it air dry on your face and then use makeup (if you feel you need to). Note that a demodex mite can live for upto a month in makeup because of the oil content. Never use a makeup in a bottle that you shake with your finger over the hole or scrape the excess back into. Try a pump or sqeeze tube type.
Hope your Z cream works for you!!! Share your results with it.
Cheers.
Ally,
Thank you so much!
Does your face – or did- your face get really dry??
I will get the ingredients and try the mix if I do not see any results soon.. I do not want to try too many things at once.
Does the Tea Tree mix make the face dry starting out?
The dryness is so bad that my face feels tight when talking or with any expressions.
I have tried almost everything (incl. Rx) for my rosacea that I was diagnosed with as well as for the demonex mites associated with the rosacea. And yes, I have tried China ZZ cream with contains sulfur and many other ingredients. It worked a little, but not enough. I hope that it works for you. Even Teatree Oil alone did not work enough for me. If I use Teatree Oil I usually seal it in with “Sno-Seal” or “OCuSOFT PLUS” foam. This seems to work much better. Often “Best-Yet” sealed in works good enough, while the Teatree Oil is a little aggressive by itself. I usually use Teatree Oil to touch up troubled areas after using the “Best-Yet” sealed in with the “OCuSOFT PLUS” foam. I have had good luck so far with this arrangement. Sometimes Sno-Seal works better than OCuSOFT Plus foam to seal in the BEST YET cedar oil mixture. Find out what works for you.
Just a mild caautionary note to anyone considering topical applications – lavender Oil has com under scrutiny as containing a potentially cytotoxic compound – this means that although you may not see or feel it, it could be damaging you.
A quote from School of Biosciences, University of Westminster, London, UK:
Lavender (Lavandula angustifolia) oil, chiefly composed of linalyl acetate (51%) and linalool (35%), is considered to be one of the mildest of known plant essential oils and has a history in wound healing. Concerns are building about the potential for irritant or allergenic skin reactions with the use of lavender oil. This study has demonstrated that lavender oil is cytotoxic to human skin cells in vitro (endothelial cells and fibroblasts) at a concentration of 0.25% (v/v) in all cell types tested (HMEC-1, HNDF and 153BR). The major components of the oil, linalyl acetate and linalool, were also assayed under similar conditions for their cytotoxicity. The activity of linalool reflected that of the whole oil, indicating that linalool may be the active component of lavender oil. Linalyl acetate cytotoxicity was higher than that of the oil itself, suggesting suppression of its activity by an unknown factor in the oil. Membrane damage is proposed as the possible mechanism of action.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15144499
On the Mend # 68,
I just recently received the ZZ cream – and it dryes my face TERRBILY – it looks bad, feels bad…is that normal? Did your face dry out that bad when you first used it? Do you think this is a sign that it is working? Was there anything that you used to help the dryness?
I do not get acne – just red, flaky, dry, circle (or odd shaped) spots on my face.
ps. it is soo nice to have found this forum and talk to others that have the same problems….there seems to be many of us – but I have never MET anybody or seen anybody to talk to them….they must do what I do and stay hidden when it is too bad to go in public….(I’ve even missed work due to some bad breakouts)
Alley may have something here! Just for the fun of it I ordered two of the ingredients that I did not have for her treatment. I used one teaspoon Teatree Oil, one teaspoon Lavender Oil, one teaspoon Chammomile Oil, and four ounces “Best Yest” cedar oil (contains 10% cedar oil with a skin penetrant). I applied this mixture on my face twice a day, and sealed it in with either Sno-Seal or OCuSOFT. I also carried around a small bottle of the mixture in my pocket to use during the day if needed. It is still a little too soon to say for shure (four days), but it is if all of the mites have died, and my face is if I have no rosecea! After I am shure that I have the victory for awhile I may cut out the Lavender Oil in the mixture since there is some speculation concerning the oil. I will only use it for flare-ups if that is the case. Being free of these mites as well as the rosecea is like being on vacation, and the treatment costs very little! Believe me in that I have tried almost everything else with very little relief. I will get back with everyone in a few months to give my results.
HI Mike.
I am glad to hear that the “concoction” is working for you. It has worked very well for me and I have a friend at work who is using it, and it is working very well for her too.
I am constantly tweaking the ingredients. I will reduce the lavendar and add some cedar oil and see how that is.
I am loving my face now. The rosacea is gone and the texture is awesome (no dryness and fewer wrinkles). I have started using the mixture on my chest and neck as well and in a week they look healthier and also have fewer wrinkles and better tone than ever.
I have a couple of bumps (one on my arm and one on my chest) that have been there for over a year. They act and look just like pimples but they never go away. I have been putting straight Tea Tree oil on them for a few days now and they have shrunk to less than half their normal size. I am expecting them to be completely gone by next week. This is excellent!!!
Anyway… I am glad you are getting good results and hope others can benefit from this “recipe”, “concoction”, “mixture”, whatever you want to call it, as well.
Take Care!
AL
I also noticed that it did not work as well if I did not seal the mixture afterwards with either SnoSeal or OCuSOFT. Mike
Also, the reason why I used “Best-Yet” cedar oil is because it contains a 90% skin penetrating agent that soaks into the skin. Most mites are into the skin and not on top of the skin.
I just had a small re-occurrence of the mite/ rosacea phenomenon. I found out that OCuSOFT just keeps the mites at bay, while the SnoSeal when sealing in the mixture actually does lessen the mite population. I also times the Teatree Oil component by two. Mike
I finally have the before said re-occurrence under control. I used a mixture of 1/4 Tea tree oil, a little over 1/2 “Best Yet,” and a little Lavender oil and Chammomile oil. After a few minutes I sealed it in with “Sno Seal.” I carried around a small bottle of 1/2 Tea tree oil and 1/2 “Best Yet,” with a touch of Lavender and Chammomile for trouble areas during the day. I also applied 91% alcohol twice a day to the main troubled areas for 15 minutes at a time. Both the mites and rosacea are now under control and are decreasing in numbers. They came on like bats out of hell attacking my face. I will now concentrate on maybe changing my body chemistry a little.
Referring back to my last posting on 18 June and Alley’s response voicing concerns about TTO’s effect on the skin, I don’t use TTO in its oil form at all. I buy a gel-based TTO skin ointment from Boots the Chemist (UK pharmacy). It is especially designed for use on skin and so there is no burning. It just stinks like hell – and is not very attractive to husbands!!! hehe:)
It has worked so well, I stopped using the ZZ cream as there was too much drying out which was giving me wrinkles.
If you are in the UK, do try the tea tree oil skin ointment from Boots. It’s not expensive and it works!
There is one very special thing that Alley has contributed, and that is the ingredients Lavender Oil and Chammomile Oil makes Tea Tree Oil smell good! Thanks Alley.
Yeah I read the recipe and I’m glad it works. If folks want to mix a potion that smells good and works, it seems her one will work fine. However for me it’s just too much phaff to get ingredients, measure and mix and then have to seal it.
Buying a ready made gel especially designed for facial use is easy, is efficient and the only drawback is the smell. So now I put it on once my husband has fallen asleep!!! The part is that it works!
So if you can’t be bothered to get ingredients and make a mix, go to Boots (UK) and buy Thursday Plantation Tea Tree Blemish Gel. Less than £4 and lasts for ages. It’s just smelly
If you’re elsewhere in the world, it can be bought from an international distributor -shown here:
http://www.thursdayplantation.com/cmsv1/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=24&Itemid=49
Hi! Anon,
What Alley and the others are trying to do is come up with a treatment to help with roscea, something the big drugs are striving to do. They in the end will probably rely on people like Alley to achieve the optimum treatment. Unfortanately not so easy. The old saying, One Persons Meat is another person’s poison, makes it hard. pitanjara
Anon,s
referal to Thursday Plantation is well worth a visit. Teatree oil is apparently effective against a large spectrum of infections, although it does not mention Dermodex. pitanjara
Hi! All
Thursday Island have an USA distributor which may be of some interest to those using Teatree Oil.
USA
Company: Natural Organics Inc
Address: 548 Broadhollow Road
City: Melville NY
Country: USA 11747
Contact:
Jim Gibbons
Email: info@naturesplus.com
Website: http://www.naturesplus.com
Phone: +1 631 293 0030
Fax: +1 631 293 0349
Hope the above is of some help.pitanjara
Alley’s mixture did not work for me. I was glad to have her mixture to add Lavender Oil and Chammomile Oil to my mixture, because it makes the Tea Tree Oil smell much better (even nice). I had to increase the Tea Tree Oil to 55% and use the “Best Yet” cedar oil at 40%. The other 5% is the Chammomile Oil and Lavender Oil. I found it necessary to use “Best Yet” because it includes a penetrant that soaks the mixture into the skin. The mites are into the skin and not on top of the skin. You can get “Best Yet” at cedarcidestore.com or 1-800-842-1464 (4 oz. spray for only $9.95). Also, I found “Sno Seal” helpful to restrict the mite activity at night after applying the mixture first. I killed the last Rosacea/mite assault on my face by using this formula. I now just use the mixture as maintenance. Mike
Well at the end of the day it has to be horses for courses. I have spent so many years with Rosacea and gone through the dreaded laser embarrasing treatments, used this thing and that thing, ZZ cream et al etc.
I was just so relieved to find something simple and inexpensive that works (for me anyway) AND doesn’t make my skin look and feel all sore, dry and flaky.
I’m convinced that it’s the TTO that is the work-hard ingredient in these potions anyway. That’s why I’m flying the flag for Thursday Plantation Tea Tree Blemish Gel. I also use a foam TTO facial wash to clean my face when any trouble erupts.
Cost is also a factor for me and that gel only costs around $6.50 so where the budget is important, give it a try.
At the end of the day it has to be horses for courses. I have spent so many years with Rosacea and gone through the dreaded laser embarrasing treatments, used this thing and that thing, ZZ cream et al etc.
I was just so relieved to find something simple and inexpensive that works (for me anyway) AND doesn’t make my skin look and feel all sore, dry and flaky.
I’m convinced that it’s the TTO that is the work-hard ingredient in these potions anyway. That’s why I’m flying the flag for Thursday Plantation Tea Tree Blemish Gel. I also use a foam TTO facial wash to clean my face when any trouble erupts.
Cost is also a factor for me and that gel only costs around $6.50 so where the budget is important, give it a try.
Actually pitanjara, that USA website doesn’t seem to sell the blemish gel – which comes in a tube rather than a pot.
I tried the Thursday Plantation site itself and they dont seem to sell it!!!! But they do have a blemish stick which may be similar.
What you are looking for is this, (but on a site for your country!) This site shows you a picture and gives a description which is a good place to start.
http://www.boots.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10052&productId=870209&callingViewName=&langId=-1&catalogId=11051
Hi! Anon,
Thursday Island stock a gel called “Tea Tree Medicated Gel for Acne”. It is in a 25g tube. Is this the one you use.? It is a clear vanishing gel.? AU $8.95. I purchase from “chemistdirect.com.au”. As you mentioned Thursday Island do not sell direct but have suppliers in most countries. As children growing up in the bush we used tea tree leaves crushed to treat bites, sores etc. There were no antibiotics in those years. All the best. pitanjara
Well I don’t know if it is the same exact product actually! On the one you have bought, the product description says “…helping to dry out acne and pimples” and that would imply skin drying effect which the blemish gel doesn’t have.
To make sure, I would suggest emailing Thursday Plantation and giving them the link the product sold at Boots which I mentioned above (29 July), and ask them under what name they market that gel in Australia elsewhere.
It seems odd that they would have different products in different countries, OR alternatively the same product marketed under a different name.
Re the stuff you have bought – have you been using it yet? One clue to it being the correct stuff could be that when you put it on your face, you are overcome by the pong!!!
UK Anon, I looked up your product (Thursday Plantation Tea Tree Medicated Gel for Acne), and it is ONLY 20% Tea Tree Oil. I use 55% TTO. I found for me that anything less simply just will not work when I have a new breakout of rosacea and mites (like bats out of hell). Plus, I use “Best Yet” to soak the TTO deep into the skin to where the mites are. Sorry. Mike
HI! UK Anon,
What you are using is the same gel, currently out of stock at Boots, and at the top of their page they mention ‘ACNE GEL’. I have Teatree growing in my garden. The Aboriginal word for this tree is ‘Bellbora’. I am fourth generation Aboriginal, my Great Grandmother was a full blood Peramangk Adealide Hills woman. Because of intermarriage I am fair hair pale skin. My sons are and daughter are all of dark complexion. At the moment I am testing a product manufactured in the USA. “Witch Hazel” (Dickinson Brand Inc. East Hampton Connecticut). I have a 2000x microscope connected to a computer in an attempt to find out how long skin mites survive in a solution of this. It is 14% Alcohol. Have a Nice Day. pitanjara.
Thanks Pitanjara – I can’t use alcohol on my face – it makes the rosacea worse
Hi, This has been some great info I have been reading about . Thank you all for sharing what has worked for you.
Could some one please tell me which jar of sno-seal you use. There are two different jars, so I bought both of them. One jar has a navy blue top with light blue on it which says all season leather protector, the other jar is light blue in color with an orange cap at the top and says Bees-wax waterproofing.I know this is kinda silly, but I want to use the right one.
Hope someone can help.
Thank-You
Maureen
Hello Maureen. I use the Sno-Seal can with the dark blue/ light blue top which says “all season leather protector.” I generally use it at night after I put the teatreeoil mix on. The mites seem to be more active at night, and the Sno-Seal seems to restrict their activity when I use it. It kind of sticks them in place if you know what I mean. That is better than having them bitting when I would rather not deal with them as I am sleeping. If they continue to bit they will build a fiberous skin substance (especially within the eyebrows) which makes them even harder to get rid of. I really do want this to work for you. I know how hard it is. Please, do let me know how it works for you. Mike
Hi Marca, Thanks for getting me straightened out on which can of sno-seal to use. Ineed to order one more item and then I can get started. Was going to try the borax in a liter of water, but after I went for my Electro- Dermal screening the tech told me I had a fungus and she gave me a bottle or I should say a remedy to help kill this fungus. Reading what was in it, I found the borax listed.I really believe that mites Demomex play a part. I see this person again the first part of Sept. I will keep you posted.
I do hope reseachers who receive these Grants really start taking these mites seriously. We really don’t need another way to diagnois this disease we need something to stop it from becoming what it is.
Thanks for all your help.
Maureen
There is one other ingredient that I put into the mixture that I did not mention on purpose, and that is a “touch” of “Pine-Sol” for the most stubborn of the mites. The reason why I did not mention it is because it can burn your face if your use too much. The 55% TeaTree Oil with a touch of Pine-Sol (must shake) gave me the one-two punch to knock out the most stubborn of the mites within a week. The most stubborn mites were in my eyebrows. Best-Yet is used in the mixture for penetration to where they are. I will not use the Pine-Sol for maintenance, which I hope will keep my Rosacea in check.
Hi Mike, when you are talking about Pine Sol being added to the mix for really problem areas, are you talking about the Pine Sol cleaner? Thanks again
Maureen
Hi Again,I was just wondering if Rose or others that were given the oral Ivermectin and topical Permethrin would tell us what state they live in and the Derma Dr. that gave this to them.
Can’t hurt tofind out just in case other stuff doesn’t work.
Many Thanks
Maureen
I don’t know why but my skin has been clear for the past 3 months (knock on wood)–the longest period of time since I was diagnosed with rosacea 5 years ago. I haven’t been doing anything different. The only thing I’ve changed in my skin care regimen is that I now use Neutrogena soap on my face rather than facial cleansers. I have not been taking any medication, nor have I needed to use premethrin or ivermectin. Can anyone explain this?
To Maureen: My dermatologist prescribed the meds. She knew how frustrated I was when antibiotics were ineffective. She is very progressive and was willing to go along with my request for the premethrin and ivermectin, especially after I showed her the research I’d done on demodex mites as related to rosacea. If your dermatologist is unwilling to prescribe these, find a different doctor.
Hello. Yes, it is the cleaner Pine-Sol. About two years ago I had a recipe from the internet which included Pine-Sol in the mixture to rid oneself of mange mites. This did not work, but when I used it recently with Teatree Oil I received tremendous results. You have to be careful though not to burn your face with Pine-Sol! I have tried almost everything out there including premethrin and the only thing that works for me is what I am using. I have not tried ivermectin, but my research on it says that if it does work it only works for a short time for each treatment. If it is not followed up with subsequent treatments the mites will probably come back. I am glad that I finally found what does work for me, and it is very inexpensive to mix up. Mike
Maureen, my derm is in the SF Bay Area. She Rx’d permethrin, but not ivermectin. The permethrin made a big difference and now I’m trying antibiotics. If they do not work, I will talk to her about the ivermectin. She’s conservative about oral meds, which I think can be a good thing. Hope you can find a good derm in your area (it took me a while).
Rose, I think it could be the switch to Neutrogena. Did you see the post above, where the woman (who is an RN) was eventually diagnosed with Lupus? She suggeted switching to Neutrogena or Dove, said it made a huge difference to her skin.
Good luck!
Gabriella
I had such a severe case of under flesh mites i cudn`t even touch my own face i had 2 luck on tinternet 4 my cure as my doctor gave me every type of permethrin imaginable times by 20 = i suffered 4 6/7 months & twas unberiable neem oil helps sooth but ivermectin cured me ..it didn`t the first time it was on l8r knowledge i found out u have 2 repeat the same dosage to your weight which the doc shud work out 2weeks l8r to get rid of any remaining mites ..in order to get ivermectin i had to tell him it was norwegian scabies ..if it was or not? all i know is that the poison ivermectin done its job & killed em all …:)lucky 4 me it wen`t the paranoia of it still lurked so wen`t out & bought tea trea pharmecutical wash from health store .gr8 now ..touch plastic .lol
Hi Rose,
Thanks for all your info. I might take some info to my Derma Dr. that I just saw and show him how Oral Ivermectin and Topical Permethrin has helped kill Mites I wish my old Derma Dr. had not retired Cause I know He would have gone along with me and try this. He always said he wanted to see a cure for this before he retired.I do know he was very sincere about helping people with this disease.
If this plan doesn’t work Hopefully my Natural Path Dr. could put me on to someone who thinks outside the box.
I will try also the topical plan Mike and a few others talk about, but I sincerely think something needs to be given internally to really kill this off.
Thanks again for your advise.
Wish me luck!
Maureen
Gabriella
Thanks also for your info on your SF Bay Area derma Dr. Glad the topical Permethrin worked for you.
Be careful using antibiotics, they can really mess your stomach up.
Thanks for your help
Maureen
Rose,
After taking the oral Ivermectin, maybe that really killed all the mites internally which if they are killed internally nothing is trying to get out of the body anymore,and the proof isjust seeing your skin clear and no more systoms of Roseace. I’m so happy for you.
Maureen
Why anti-biotics seem to work….
When the demodex mite dies it’s decaying body produces a bacteria. Since they are constantly dying as new ones are hatching, you always have this bacteria. Your white blood cells rush to the pore/hair follicle to kill the bacteria… which produces puss which causes acne. Some people are also allergic to the bacteria which can show up as rosacea, eczema etc. Furthermore, some people cannot tolerate the mite itself.
Anti-biotics (oral or topical) seem to initially work because they help to kill the bacteria without your white cells having to do it… therefore, no puss – no acne.
However, note that anti-biotics do not kill the mites. They only kill the bacteria they cause. Therefore, the anti-biotics are not a long-term solution. Chances are that once you get off the anti-biotic, within short order, the problem will recur. You have to kill the mites if you want to be “cured.”
Tea tree oil is a natural anti-inflamatory (to help cut down on the redness), a natural pesticide – one of the only known ones that will kill the mites, and a natural anti-biotic that kills the bacteria…. therefore, eliminating all of the problems. Remember, don’t ever use it full-strength on your skin (it will burn!).
AL
P.S. The “concoction” is still working well… no more issues or red skin… I cut out the lavendar and upped the tea tree oil a few more drops.
I also wanted to take Ivermectin, but the two dermatologists in my area said that demonex mites were a good thing for my body and have nothing to do with Rosacea. Plus, my family doctor said that Ivermectin was only for worms. I was able to get Permethrin, Eurax, and antibiotics. These prescriptions did not work for me. Most doctors do not want to be told by their patents what is best for them, and many do get offended. I have read that Permethrin and Eurax can build dangerious toxic levels within one’s body if used too much. I would love to take Ivermectin with my topical mixture that I use for awhile, but I know that with the doctors in my area it would be in vain to try. Mike
Hi Mike, Listening to the others that were given the oralIvermectin using only a couple of doses really shouldn’t build up dangerous toxic levels in the body because it sounds like that is ending the problem with the mites and killing them.
I wish all Derma. Dr. would just give all of us these two treatments so we can all have our skin clear, and let reaserchers continue looking for what caused this. Who knows they many never find out, and we will continue suffering with this the rest of our lives.
I don’t mean to sound so down on this topic, but I have had this for over 40 years now. I want the rest of my life to be free of this and not live under the stress that Rosacea can bring to our lives.
Maureen
Hi Mike, Listening to the others that were given the oralIvermectin using only a couple of doses really shouldn’t build up dangerous toxic levels in the body because it sounds like that is ending the problem with the mites and killing them.
I wish all Derma. Dr. would just give all of us these two treatments so we can all have our skin clear, and let reaserchers continue looking for what caused this. Who knows they many never find out, and we will continue suffering with this the rest of our lives.
I don’t mean to sound so down on this topic, but I have had this for over 40 years now. I want the rest of my life to be free of this and not live under the stress that Rosacea can bring to our lives.
Maureen
So, the Vermectin seems to work at least initially…. can’t we assume though that it is like any other pesticide in that you would have to take it on some continuous basis in order to kill any new mites you get?
Demodex mites are rampid in our environment. 80% of people tested have them, and you can pass them by touch… so using a couple of rounds of Vermectin might work initially, but continuing to take it for preventive measures could be dangerous… who knows what else it is doing to your body?? The whole Vermectin thought just kinda scares me.
Wouldn’t it make more sense to maybe just use it once, and then use a topical product (like tea tree oil) on an on-going basis for preventive maintenance?
Just thoughts!
I would love to take vermectin just to see what it really does do for me (two dosages two weeks apart with my topical mixture). I am really worried about the toxic levels that can build up on Permethrin and Eurax through thermo-absorption, and not necessarily with vermectin. My doctors will not prescribe vermectin for me. Both derm. do not believe that demonex mites are really directly associated with Rosacea, and my family doctor believes that vermectin is only for worms and other associated parasites. It would be in vain for me to ask again. They want to be in charge and would be offended if I would tell them otherwise. Mike
Hey Mike!
Nothing says you have to stick with your current Dermatologist! Go to someone else for a second opinion.
The reason I beleive Demodex mites contribute to Rosacea is beause Rosacea is a an inflamatory condition. The Demodex mites cause allergies in some people that cause inflamation (just like any other allergy can). Getting rid of the mites gets rid of the inflamation…. hence, no more rosacea.
I have had rosacea most of my life and had severe acne when I was younger. Since I have been using the tea tree tincture alone, I have not had any rosacea! Tea tree oil also has a natural anti-inflamatory too… so, double bonus.
Good luck!!!
I had to wait for about two to three weeks before I could get to see a dermatologist, and when I saw the two dermatologists I hammered down the Rosacea with my mixture enough to where they said that there is nothing wrong with me. I was diagnosed two times for Rosacea by doctors, but not by them. I now have the mites and rosacea so well under control with my mixture that a doctor will now definitely say there is nothing wrong. I still have flare-ups at times when the mites do come back along with my rosacea, and I would love to eliminate the mites completely with Ivermectin if I can. I have had a belly full of dermatologists to where I do not want to see them at all now. What I am doing now is working, but I am always looking for a cure.
I used to view microfische (microfilm) at the insurance company I worked at. Just for fun, I squeezed a small blackhead on my face and wiped it on the glass slide where I usually place the microfische. Sure enough, on the screen, I could see Demodex Folliculorum! I didn’t know what it was till I looked it up in my Tabers (a medical encyclopedia book)…I drew a picture of the mite and showed it to my dermatologist. He verified that it was indeed demodex! I told him I didn’t want them on my face. He was very nonchalant about it, but I was adamant about it! He told me to use a special soap I could find at the drug store. This was about ten years ago, so I don’t remember the name of the soap. I found it at the drug store with the skin care products. It is a dark blue soap, strong smell, quite expensive, but it works. After daily use, about six months later, it was very hard to find a demodex anywhere on my face. It used to be very easy to find a mite but almost all of the minor zits I would pop would NOT contain a demodex! So, go to your drug store, and look for a dark blue soap in the skin care section…and good luck!
– Gregg in Sarasota, Florida
Mike
Finally got the Best Yet to use with the Tea Tree Oil Lav , Chamo and Sno-seal. Half to go out of town this week so can’t get started with this till I get back.
What brand is your Tea tree oil? Can you please go over your mixture again please I have read so many different changes I’m getting confused. What size bottle did you mix this in 4oz. 6oz.? Are you using teaspoons full of some of this? Or filling a small bottle Half full of tea tree and then adding the rest?
Hi! Gregory
I don’t think the soap you mentioned is available anymore. I believe it contained Carbolic Acid.
For those taking Ivermectin (used in Australia to treat a potentially fatal worm infection ‘Strongyloides”) visit below to check on this drug. pitanjara
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/meds/a607069.html
Hello Maureen. With the mixture that I am using I am now getting my left eyebrow back!!! That was the worst area of the mite infection. My eyebrow had crustaceous type skin, of which I suppose is where the main mite infection was. Even my nose was starting to get this. There is now only an area as big as the eraser head of a pencil left of this area. This area is now being grown in with new skin. I am elated , delirious with great joy! I think that I will bay at the moon and wake my neighbors. Sorry, for my brief moment of insanity, but I have fought these mites for over four years. Now, I have some sort of relief. I know that I will never get rid of them completely, but now I have them under my control! Also, I now have no more signs of Rosacea. Enough of my rambling on. My formula is: 50% Teatree Oil, 35% Best-Yet, 5% Pine-Sol, 5% Chammomile Oil, and 5%Lavender Oil. This does not have to be exact! If you want more killing power add more Teatree oil, if you want more pentration into the skin add more Best-Yet, and if you want to burn them more out of their beds add more Pine-Sol. If your face starts to get too red or starts to burn you have too much Pine-Sol. Just add more Best-Yet to neutralize it. Actually, you do not even need the Lavender Oil or the Chammomile Oil, but it does make it smell a whole lot better (even nice). Make shure that you shake the mixture before you use it. Most of it mixes well except for the Pine-Sol. I use the Sno-Seal at night on top of my mixture to keep the mites that are left from being too active. They try to be more active at night while you are asleep, and if you do not stop this activity the mites will build those nasty crusted areas which are so hard to get rid of. I sincerely hope that this works for you too. All of the other recipes that worked for others did not work for my mites. I guess my mites are from cell block D, real bad guys. Just so you might know I isolated the mites in my microscope, and was diagnosed by two doctors as having Rosacea (one was a dermatologist). I have tried almost everything out there, and this does work for me. Soon, hopefully, I will make up a mixture that is not as potent to use just for maintenance. I want to make shure that I have hammered the mites down for a complete knockout. Best of luck, Mike
I’ve been thinking about possible reasons behind re-infection with demodex mites.
Another skin condition – scabies – is also caused by mites burrowing in the skin. The difference, of course, is the contagious nature of the scabies sarcoptic mites whereas demodex mites aren’t contagious.
But I know with scabies treatments, the mite eggs have also to be destroyed and treatment doesn’t end with getting the mites off of the face and body. The sufferer’s environment must also be treated in order to prevent re-infection. Bedding, clothing and towels have to be washed in hot water and dried in a hot dryer.
Even though they aren’t contagious like sarcoptic mites, it seems like demodex mites have a similar choice of habitat and behaviour, so maybe demodex re-infection also has something to do with non elimination of them and – more importantly their eggs – from the sufferer’s environment. Could it be that the night activity described is because there are mites and eggs in bedding?
What I do know is the treatment that you use for Scabies will not work with Demonex mites. Demonex mites are so much more resistant to treatments. I do not think that the bedding issue is as important as with scabies, but I would pay attention to bedding when they are on the way out. I also do my hair and any other affected areas of my body with my treatment at least twice a week. Mike
UK ANON
Hi!, I ‘ve tried treating my bed linen pillowing cases etc by changing daily then spraying the bed protector with Glen 20 for a week. It did not seem to make any difference. SLEEPING in bed especially on your side doesn’t help, as your face gets quite warm, good for mites. The following works very well. I have set up a small 2″ USB fan on a stand (no noise) about a foot from my face. Just enough to keep it COOL. No flushed face in the morning. Just the opposite my face is quite pale. I don’t think the mites like the cold air. There is one snag however, one has to sleep on one’s BACK all night propped up with pillows. That is the way I sleep now.
That is why I use Sno-Seal at night on top of my topical treatment. It stops the mites from bitting. Mike
That is why I use Sno-Seal at night on top of my topical treatment. It keeps the mites from bitting. Mike
Hi Mike,
Thanks for all your help and your last up-date in regards to your mixture that you seem to be having get sucess with I can’t wait to get started with it. I have an appoitment with my Natural Path Dr. next week. Want to ask him for the oral Ivermectin to take with your mixture.See what he says. At least I know I can use your mixture and I’m sure it will work for me also. Do you think the mixture will kill the Seborrheic dermatitis I have on mostly the nose area? Hope and Pray that it will. I had to call my derma dr. cause they gave me the wrong sulfur lotion to use for this problem. It was awful and burned my face. When I called them I asked one more time to see if he would prescribe the oral Ivermectin but said that it harms your liver.
Rose did the Derma Dr. at the hospital say that to you about Liver damage or was that just another excuse for him not to give it. He probaby knows that it really does work and helps people with this problem.
Mike thanks again for all the help, I’ll keep you posted
Maureen
Hi
Forgot to mention this to everyone that I talked to my Pharmacist about the sulfur lotion I that i used from linda Sy a Derma in Cal. It was the best thing i found that controlled the very oily nose area, no side effects from it either.He knew exactly what I was talking about but of course they could never handle something that good and also so very safe to use. He said Cal. and SF Bay areas use a lot of organic products, isn’t it so sad that we can’t get these safe products to use any more.
Maybe Linda Sy could retire now because she also treated people with Rosacea/mite problem and they got better.
We all need to go after this and get better. Hopefully we will all find a Derma. Dr. to treat us internally like Rose got treated and pass on the Drs. name so everyone can get cured or at least a very good treatment to keep our FACES CLEAR.
What a GREAT DAY THIS WILL BE FOR ALL OF US
Thanks Everyone I love visiting with all of you.
Maureen
http://www.eyeworld.org/article.php?sid=4381
Very interesting and informative article. Those eyelash photos look very familiar unfortunately. Gross!
It seems there’s something to the TTO remedy and the article describes a TTO eyelid wash for ocular rosacea. It doesn’t give exact ingredients or measurements, though. I wonder if someone here would have any ideas? I know not to use full strength TTO but have no idea what to mix it with.
I’ve read this thread closely and ordered the ingredients for Alley’s remedy. They haven’t arrived yet, but I intend to try this and the TTO soap/shampoo/wash protocols as soon as possible.
Thanks to all who posted here, you’ve given me hope. In turn I’ll gladly report results if any.
For eye lids and lashes, I apply Vaseline twice each day.
Thought the problem was solved, stopped for several weeks. Took a look, almost as severe as when started.
The first time required almost two years for growth to show.
MD> “you do not have a mite problem.”
Vaseline works for canine mites, (mange), why not for these mites?
Slow but successful, for me, sure hope others will report
their status.
I have noticed that I no longer get pink eye from what I expect is from the mites. I suppose that the formula that I use is also keeping the mites out of my eyes as well. I try to keep the mixture out of my eyes, but I guess a trace of it does get into the eyes and eyelids. To this effect it is a good thing. Mike
Hi Mike,
So glad that you don’t get Pink Eye anymore. Hope your skin is doing great and a little mixture I agree won’t hurt the eyes, it will probably help you.
Saw my Natural Path yesterday and he can’t write the oralIvermectin but wants me to see this woman Dr. Maybe she will, but it’s hard to say. I am looking for some down time where I can just stay home and do your mixture, but my husband and I are so busy with a dying Aunt right now and other comments. I don’t want to put make-up on for a couple weeks during the day when I’m doing this so I can get the best results.
Hope everything stays working for you Mike
Maureen
Oh by the way, did you get a lot of pinkeye when you were a kid and also did you get sties.
I had them all the time when I was a kid, especially the sties
Best of Luck
Maureen
Hello Maureen. No, I really never had pink eye or sties. It has been only during the last four years that I have been getting pink eye, and it kept getting worse and worse. Otherwords, it started when I started having much more trouble with my rosacea, and also after I started having symptoms of mites. Before I started using my new formula I was getting pink eye three days out of the week! I know that it was not associated with illness. I have also read that eye doctors sometimes do fight mite infection for pink eye, and left untreated could affect one’s vision to a certain degree even permanently. I have had no pink eye for about a month now, and my skin shows no real sign of rosacea. I know that I do have some mites left, but biting is at a long time low. I pretty much have my face back, and the more that I use my mixture the less occurrences I experience. I’m going for the knockout punch now. Mike
I also noticed that if I do not have enough PineSol in the mixture that it does not work as well. Do not put too much in though. If it turns your face red or burns too much you have too much PineSol. Just add some more Best-Yet. If there is not enough PineSol just add a little more. It seems that after a few days of using the mixture the PineSol becomes weaker even after shaking the mixture each time before using. Mike
Hi
I am going to try the formular for my rocacea. Not sure of where to get the ingredients as I am from Australia. I am troubled by occular rocacea which is very debilitating. Is there a tt mixture for the eyes/lashes?
I am appreciative of any help
You can get all of the ingredients from ebay except the “Best Yet.” You can get the Best Yet at: http://www.cedarcidestore.com (ph.# 1-281-367-5075). I hope that you have good results like I have had. It is the only thing that actually worked for me. I still at times start to get rosacea, and the mites still at times try to set in, but the mixture keeps them and the rosacea at bay. My face is actually free of rosacea and mites right now. My mixture seems to work for the eyelids as well, even though I try not to get it into the eyes. Mike
I also have ocular rosacea which affects the eyes and produces papules. I seem to have it under control. Mike
Just interested in more follow up….
Hi
Thank you everyone for your advice. I am still waiting on the ingredients. My occular rocacea has improved in the last week. My eyes are so dry and inflamed. All through the night I put in artificial tears so I can open them as they are stuck to the upper lid. I have an eye specialist appointment on 22/10/09. A 3-4 month waiting period. dermatologist wants to work with eye specialists?
Thanks everybody, so nice to hear from others with the same condition
Cheryl, I’ve heard that many people with ocular rosacea get a great deal of improvement with Omega 3. I think you need to take about 3 g a day though and take for several months (2-3) before you get resuults, but please do some research.
Good luck!
It seems that the number of mites are lessening on me. My face is now clean respectively. I still get a little rosacea every now and then including a papule or two every couple of weeks, but things are getting a little brighter. Mike
Dear Mike Marca,
I read somewhere that it takes 4 years for you to keep this under control ? Why that freaking long , i also tried everything for years now but nothing helped a lot . Sometimes you feel that it works and then a few hours later you’re whole freaking body is crwaling with these bastards. also my arms are a bit red and i feel them almost everywhere . So if you cure you’re face they’re almost everywhere in you’re body how can we end this sh*t ? Maybe ivermectin also ? Are there succes stories here with Ivermectin ? The reproduce every freeking day it almost looks like that morgellon’s from chemtrails and other heavy metals-us government-i’ll make you all sick-diseases.
You feel them reproduce eggs every hour it looks like it is very very annoying and depressing for so many years .
sorry for my bad english
Hello Destiny. I still have my moments with them. It is just that for four years now they (the mites) had the control, but now (knock on wood) I seem to be gaining the control over them. I can still feel them crawing and bitting at times (some doctors believe that you cannot feel them bitting since they are so small, ha), but not as much as before. My face is like normal right now! At times they do come on like bats out of hell, but I attack them with the formula that I made, and I gain control again. Once or twice a week I put the mixture in my hair to keep them out, and some days I put the mixture all over my body (especially if there is activity). I wish that I could use Ivermectin with my mixture, but my doctors will not prescribe it. For years I freaked out, but now I am gaining control over them. I no longer have red eye because of them, and they seem to be lessening in numbers. The doctors are not helping me, but my mixture is. I just thought that I may share it with someone. Also, my rosacea hardly ever comes up anymore, and if it does it goes away quickly. I am not a doctor, but I guess that the reason why it takes so long to completely get rid of them once a sufficient treatment is underway is if there is just one egg left you can have the same thing happening all over again once your rosacea kicks up again. It is very very frustrating I know. I am happy only that when I die the mites will not go with my spirit to the Lord. As long as I have rosacea the mites can re-populate out of control again. I now have both the mites and the rosacea under control, and I have my face back (no thanks to the doctors)!!! Mike
Dear Mike ,
I have another 2 questions for you please . My first one is did it first become worse before it came better ? And the second one is how long did it take to see the best results ?
Ps , i have one question more, are you one a special diet also and are you a vegetarian ?
Thanks a lot and i hope we kill these evil DEMONex mites !
Blessings ,
Destiny
Hello Destiny. I must be honest with you. I had to really fight these mites with my mixture to get where I am now, and I am still not completely over them. I do as of now have victory over them. Also, something that I did not mention is that when the mites are active (feel them bitting, etc.) I put a thin coat of Sno-Seal over the mixture (wait a few minutes after applying the mixture for it to soak in first). Also, if there are crusted areas I had to scrape off these areas to make the medicine work. My mixture does penetrate, but in those areas it is very hard. And, yes, it did become worse before it became better. You are burning them out of their homes, and the mites are fighting to exist. It took about two months before I realized the best results, but that would depend I guess upon how progressed the infection is for a person. They made camp in my left eyebrow with crustations, and started to affect my nose. Also, I was getting pink-eye at least once a week. They affected other areas of my body, but not as significiantly. I am not a vegetarian. And, yes, I have put myself on a special diet, but not for rosacea though. I do HGH pills (neugenisis.com) and Pauling Therapy (paulingtherapy.com). I do HGH because I am getting older, and I do Pauling Therapy to clean out my vascular system ( I am alergic to cholesterol medicines). I hope that I have answered all of your questions. I wish you the best of luck. Mike
Dear Mike,
Thank you so much or you’re information ! I must say is have tried so many many thinks for the last 7 years it’s obsession . I tried the Borax H2oh cure , creams , seabuckthorn , thousands of pills , tea tree oil etc . etc . Last i tried tea tree oil over my whole body and you feel them crawling everywhere . I also have the redness on my forearms i am full of these basterds and i am so tired of this . But my main problem is that i quit when it’s become worse , because you always have a wedding or a birthday party or work or something like that and you look like a freeking monster so that’s horrible . So when i used tea tree oil for two weeks and i was blessed because i thought finally it is dissapearing and then BAM it comes back 10 times worse and you become depressed again . I have a wedding friday and i look like a freek with this big red demodex overload cheecks and eyebrows. Also My doctors say i am crazy but we know we are not , they give you all chemical sh*t and that’s working for some days but not as a cure . But i think that is my main problem i’ll quit to soon because you have social obligations . This freeking disease is taking over you’re social life and i think i am not the only one who’s saying this and also a lot of stress . I will keep you updated as i will start you’re treatment and buy the stuff you recomended i’ll hope i can buy that sno seal stuff here in holland ( europe) . I will give you my personal e-mail if you like so i can please ask you some questions when i don’t know how to use or when i’m down ? After the wedding i go through hell for one time and act like. a bulldozer on these mites .
Mike thanks a lot also the owner of this websites and all the people here dealing this stuff .
Blessings and greetings,
Destiny
I had a terrible case of rosacea and demodex mites (which I could see under magnification). After four dermatologist and oodles of creams and prescriptions for strong antibotics that I refused to use, I finally went to a Naturopahthic Docter who got to the root of the problem.
After doing some blood tests, we found out that I was highly allergic to dairy and eggs. Although I didn’t eat a lot of either, they are hidden in so many products I consumed on a daily basis. Once I eliminated all dairy and eggs (and related byproducts) from my diet, my skin cleared up completely. I mean smooth, clear, and no more redness! The doctor explained that when we do things to produce toxins (such as eating foods we are allergic to), that the toxins have to come out somehow, and since our skin is our largest organ, thats how the toxins will expell in the form of bumps pustules on our skin. Those pustules make for a bacteria laden skin that attracts and provide a perfect environment for demodex mites. Once you get rid of that environment, they will not survive.
The doctor also had me improve my diet and health overall by eating a lot more fresh fruits and vegtables and less sugar and processed foods. She also gave me supplements to heal my gut that had been abused over the years and some supplements that greatly reduced imflamation and the spider veins in my checks so no more redness.
I highly recommend that people see a Naturopathic Doctor and get tested for food allergies and see if there are other internal problems. They take a completely different approach to healing the cause of a problem, not just prescribing a temporary fix.
There is always a root cause to all conditions, you need to find someone who will find and heal the root cause of the condition. You can find a licensed Naturopathic Doctor at http://www.naturopathic.org. It changed my life!
Hello Kate. I am glad that you are doing better! Personally though I do not eat eggs, milk, or even beef. I quit these items about a year ago to keep my Cholesterol down. I drink soy milk now, eat chicken or turkey breast, brown rice and bread, and I try to keep away from sugar or frucose. I don’t think that I can adjust my diet anymore for anyone. Thanks though, Mike
Hello again. I did though notice one thing that my diet could have contributed slightly to my rosacea. About three years ago my personal doctor had me on Omega-5 fish oil pills. I noticed that when I took the fish oil I would get hudge water (or what ever) blisters on the bottoms of my feet. This oil could have been excreting somewhat through the pores of my skin thus adding to the rosacea and bacteria associated with it. I haven’t taken fish oil now for at least eight months now. So the condition that I now have is not contributed to the fish oil concentrates. Mike
Mike… I was allergic to dairy and egg products, but I’m not suggesting that thats what you or anyone else might be allergic to, but rather that you consider allergy testing to see if it is something. A lot of people are allergic to wheat, soy, poultry or whatever. One doesn’t know until you get tested.
Hello again Kate. I have had allergies now for 30 years, and I have been tested many times for what I am allergic to. I also have a slight case of athsma. I am allergic to mold spores, dust mite poop, and white birch pollen. I know that my allergy doctor would have noticed the other items if I was allergic to them. Once I was poked 77 times to find out what I was allergic to. I am sorry if I seemed to come on too strong, but I have had enough of doctors for right now. Mike
Gabriella
I don’t know how often you look at this site, but was just wondering how you are doing since you were Rx’d Permethrin.
Hope your doing well.
Maureen
I was recently alerted to an infestation of demodex mites in my eye-lashes while having an eye test for glasses. The optician told me to treat it with baby shampoo – 10% baby shampoo in 90% boiled (and cooled) water, applied with a cotton bud twice a day.
She said the demodex mites would go back to normal levels within a couple of days, then I should continue treatment less often, for a couple of weeks.
There’s no point in trying to kill them totally – they don’t do any harm in normal numbers.
Agressive, I mean very agressive, treatments are necessary for me, and not baby shampoo. I can loose my eyesight from these mires! I no longer have pink eye because of the treatments that I do. I also have my face back! Mike
You know many people (including doctors) play down what we go through, because they never experienced it. I remember when I first started having trouble with these mites that I was so desperate I even at one time tried to use fuel injection cleaner on my skin. The mites just laughed at it. I never felt so helpless in all of my life! If what I do helps someone else this in itself would be some consolution.
Lost all eye brows and lashes.
DERMO, NOT Mites!!
I Use petroleum jelly twice each day around my eyes, and brows.
Takes many months to observe replacement growth.
do not give up easily. As I remember the life span is 21 days? However the lost are replaced by the neighbors .
Had a growing patch of hair loss at back of neck, the same research has been working.
Thank you, to all, reporting attempts and success..
Sorry. Mike Mariani is really me. I accidently used my real name instead of my internet name.
Is ee some websites where you can order Ivermectin without doctors subscription . Do you guys know if this is the real ivermectin , and do you know some trustable websites for medicine descriptiption ?
thanks,
Destiny
It is against the law. It is RX. Mike
That is the only thing that I haven’t tried. Mike
Hi
What is RX, Mike?
Ivermectin needs a doctor prescription in the US.
I don’t see anything here about diatomaceous earth which I have heard and read kills all arthropods, by scratching their exoskeletons. I have gotten some relief from the mites by mixing it with water until it is a very thin grey paste and applying it liberally to my skin after showering. It dries out my skin a little but it is worth it to get relief from the demodex mites. I have also read that it is harmless to humans unless you breath it in large quantities.
I tried it(diatomaceous earth), and it didn’t work for me. I have a 5 gallon pail of it at home. I tried almost everything out there (anti-biotics, Rx mite meds, sulfur, zz cream, and many, many more products). The only thing that I have not tried is Ivermectin (Rx). My doctors will not prescribe it for me. The formula that I made up seems to work. I no longer have pink eye from the mites, and I now have my face back. Mike
Sorry, I was in a hurry again and used my real name.
I am using tea tree oil pure , pure faace wash , pure body wash ,shampoo. Also the h2oh and borax and the mms drops. It was worse then i think because i feel these creepy helly crawlers all over my body, never thought it was that worse . What i also hate is that i only see tingling sensations in both of my eyes even now when i teype these letters on a white background i only see crawling sensation hundreds of them , my eyes are very red and at night i feel them waling in my eyes . my sight has dimnished what can i do about it ? some people say that you have to wipe some cream on you’re eyelids but they are already in my eyes and deeper then the oils and creams can go . Also if demodex can walk through you’re whole body and you’re vital organs then this is an endless case what i think ? I am a vegetarian eat only good things try to avoid yeast and al that kind of crap and i am only 20 yeasr and have it for over 8 years now . But the harder you fight the more tingly sensations over you’re hole body it is realy terrible and depressing , and that is causing low-immune system and the cicrlce goes round and round . I sometimes think it has something to do with the chemtrails some government issue to make people unhealthy and sick but that’s my opnion . PLease people what can you do to whipe them out from the inside i tak more borax internally then nessecary and other i’ve red that they ‘re not in you’re bloodstreams . And is there something for the eyes because i can’t see almost nothing anymore .
bless you all
I was the same way, until I started using what I now use. Teatree Oil alone really does very little by itself. It only aggravates them (as you now know). I use: 55 % Teatree Oil, 30 % Best-Yet, 7 % Pine -Sol, 5 % Lavender Oil, and 3 % Chammomile Oil. I also put Sno-Seal over the formula to seal in the mites from moving and bitting. Sno-Seal can be bought on E-Bay, and it contains beeswax. I would use lip balm until I could get the Sno-Seal. From what I use I now have my face back! I know your pain, because I was there for four years. The doctor’s did very little for me, and other people have no idea. I had to find out what works myself. I wish you the very best. Mike
Dear mike ,
I have also a few questions about the eyebrows and the cheeks. It looks like there is a thick red layer on the skin where you not get easily get trough . Do you also have that ?
By the way peroxide is also skin nutrition and also Borax is some powder the demodex don’t like . And where can i order the sno-seal as i live in Europe ?
Do you mean 55 % concentrated Tea tree oil or you’re mixture is 55 % tea tre oil of 100 % ? Or do you use pure tea tree oil ?
I will order all you’re recommended products today Mike and thanks for you’re support .
I am sorry i ment the pine sol where i can buy that ?
Hello Destiny. It is 55 % out of 100, and so on. You can also buy Pine-Sol off of e-bay. The only one that you cannot buy off of e-bay is Best-Yet. Just type http://www.cedarcidestore.com to find the company (or dial 281-367-5075 from the US). Best Yet has Cedar Oil and a “penetrant” that soaks into the skin. I used to have crusted areas above the skin as well. I found out that I needed to remove these the best that I could in order for the formula to penetrate deep into the skin. I used to use plumber’s abrasive cloth, but do not take off too much or you will be down to the meat. This worked for me. I can only hope that you will have at least the same success. I got my cheeks, eyebrows, nose, and eyes all back, but it did take a few months. At times I used to even feel the mites under my eyelids, and I used to get pink eye quite a lot. I still get incidences to where mites will still try to take over, but I now have control over them (knock on wood). Mike
Dear Mike thanks for you’re reply,
I have already the pure teatree oil and the chamomille oil. I have ordered this product also you’ve recomended :
http://www.cedarcidestore.com/catalog/item/3580888/3194699.htm
http://www.zwerfkei.nl/product/Zwerfkei/Sno-seal-tube
http://cgi.ebay.nl/Pine-Sol-Liquid-Cleaner-Disinfectant-Bottle-3-144-Oz_W0QQitemZ180392563753QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item2a003c1429
Can you please watch if these are the right products ?
I have also a question about the pine-sol is this harmless to the skin ? And i hae pure tea tree oil and sometimes they say it’s damaging the skin because it is too strong .
i’ve looked for plumber’s abrasive cloth , but do yo means some kind scrubbing paper ? I am afraid i lose al the hair on my eye-lids and my eyebrows if i do that .
Today i looked in the mirror and i lost al the hair on my right eye-lid that s*cks really hard because i was always afraid of that being happened .
What somebody stated in another topic is that you have to fight demodex all over you’re body because one part of the body doesn’t help so we have to put that mixture all over the body i think .
Why do they reproduce mites again if we fought them already ?
I Know we have to stay strong and wait for the best cure , by the way was you’re case really bad or just mild case ?
Hope you will answer these questions again mike because i want to start quick and want the normal hair back and the redness fade away like everyone.
My last question is do you also use some eyedrops or something ?
Bless you all
i tried that borax and perioxide thing one time the other night….it did look like stuff was coming out of some pores
i was afraid to try again!
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1772908/?tool=pubmed
this website has information from pubmed on the eyelash wash…..hope it helps someone.
I have used baby shampoo mixed with water on my eyelashes and that seems to kill them pretty well.
However the most insightful revelation I have had was by using Boraxo soap, Diatomaceous earth and epsom salts (equal parts one third cup each) in a hot bath (with a little tea tree oil and pine sol for good measure).
The mites float to the surface and leave trails in the boraxo soap residue on the surface of the bath water as they try to escape the borax. The trails are easily visible in the water even though the mites aren’t and prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that it is not a psychological ailment, but a real parasite.
It is very satisfying watching them die as the trails stop growing when they run into too much borax. In my 6 week experience with these pests, this has been the most effective treatment I have used (much better than Permethrin ointment), and it does not require a subscription.
Hi Roger
Your method of killing the mites is very interesting. How often do you take this bath? How long do you stay in the bath? Have you had any improvemtent or relief. I tried Tree oil concoction and all it did was send the creatures to my scalp and back of my ears and neck etc. (by the way my scalp was clear before TT treament) They just moved out of home for a while. I didn’t even know about these bugs until they were on the move in masses. I haven’t even looked for them (magnified) but I now know they are there. If I treat my face they move to safer ground. I will try your bath. It makes sense to treat the whole skin. May take a while to get ingredients!!!
Thank You all for your feedback and help
cheryl
Cheryl,
I have been taking the bath at least once a day. Twice on weekends (morning and evening). I usually stay in at least half an hour or until the mite trails stop appearing. That usually means that I have killed all the mites I could in that bath, the other ones have “gone deep” into my hair follicles and nothing that is going to kill them there, except possibly ivermectim which I do not have access to.
Hello again Destiny. That is what worked for me and is now working. For my eyebrows I used a small knife blade to remove the scale trying not to remove any hair. I know that it sounds very aggressive, but these mites are very aggressive. The formula that I have will not cure you of mites, but it should give you the upper hand as well as your face back. If you can also get a doctor to prescribe you Ivermectin you will probably do even better, but I doubt that that will free you or me of mites continually. We have this curse, and this is the best that I can do. Mike
Hello again Destiny. The reason why I tried Pine-Sol is because it is used in a formula off of e-bay against scabies. They used Pine-Sol with hair conditioner. This did not work well with me, because it made the mites as mad as hell. It burns them out of their holes. But with my formula it also burns them out of their holes and the Teatree Oil helps to kill them when they are out. Also, the Best-Yet helps the mixture to penetrate deep into the skin. I have been using Pine-Sol for a while. If it burns too much then you need to cut the mixture with more Best-Yet or lessen the Pine-Sol. This is also true if the Pine-Sol turns your face too red. Mike
Sorry. It was not on e-bay but a place on the internet that advertised a cure for scabies. Mike
hi every one,
well ive read all your and now im covinced i have demotex mites, all over my legs, stomach, arems, neck, and not so much the redness on my face but little white things, in my pores on my face. i think they are on my eyelashes and eybrows i see what looks like dandruff. and they are gritty in the morning like salt.. i pull little white things out of my legs arms and stomach and chest, im infested. i thought i had morgellons , who knows. but my derm did a biopsy twice, they said sqaumous keritosis. and gave me steriod creem no help. ive tried numerous things, and no help . im misserable.. ive had this for over 4 years.my boyfriend thinks im nuts, and im so depressed. my kids think im nuts too and there are no such thing as little invisable bugs. they are so wrong..my oldest is showing signs with bumps all over her arms and legs. is this contagious. my derm never did a skin scraping. he did however prescribe me inver about 6 months ago but never filled it i couldnt afford it. now i cant even afford tea tree. ive used that in the past and i do think it helped alittle. i do have some best yet left though. and some eurax from 2007 do you think i should use some, any info would be greatly apreciated.
thanks
i feel all you pain
i guess i joined to late ha. is every one cured. i sure hope so.
dawn
im sorry if im axious to hear from some one. ive been checking all day and i see no one has been on since oct
No Dawn, everyone is on the other site right now. If you type in kill demonex mites in your search engine you will pull up two places for this site. Mike
hi mike i cant find it
dawn
Hi mark and others,
I used you’re formula but they run all into my eyes even when i look to the white background of this page i only see these creutures in my eyes . My eye sight has dimnished a lot now with shes creatures , i went tto the docto and he thought i was crazy because the whole health-care is brainwashed big-time related on money and on keep people sick . Pleese help me guys i can’t see nothing because of that crawling in my eyes the whole time it looks like thousands of them ! It’s like the behind my eyes . Doctors won’t help you anymore , what a strange world up to 2012 .
If they are in your eyes too much go to an eye doctor. These doctors do specialize in that sort of thing. Hopefully the doctor will do the right thing. Mike
Hi everybody,
I have a rosacea since 6 year with permanent redness on the cheeks and forehead. I tried a new treatment this week, and finally it worked, my rosacea is gone!
Here is my treatment:
- I put some “Alep soap” ( a Syrian soap) on my face in the morning.
- I did few dead sea mud masks to remineralize my skin
- I took a Tolexine 100mg pill once a day
- And some 2 black radish/artichoke pills once a day
I bought the mask and the soap on Internet and pills in my pharmacy. My skin totally cleared, i still can’t believe it. I hope it will work for you too.
Julia
Hi dear Mike ,
Went through the doctor again and i explained it again and he thought i was crazy. But he send me to an eye doctor who told me that i have to live with it so you have to search for yourself .
Don’t you guys have that sensation when you look at the screen of you’re pc or in the air outside that you see that freeking crawling sensations behind you’re eyes ?
Hi Everyone.
Just stumbled across this godsend of information.
But I’m getting a little information overload.
I’m hoping I can get some sort of advice.
I’m a 40 yr old male. I was diagnosed with rosacea years ago. I haven’t taken anything for it because it’s been relatively mild -no pustules or pimples; just read around the nose and cheeks sometimes.
Lately my eyes lids have been getting swollen every morning. I’ve been using baby shampoo and warm compresses
Two weeks ago me left eye lid swelled up and the left side of my face-including the corner of my left eye is very red.
I have been to walk in clinics etc. They prescribed tobramicin-it did nothing.
I am now on doxycycline for the last two days- don’t know if that will help
I do get a lot of dandruff, including my eye brows.
I believe this might be due to those nasty bugs.
I bought some borax, but don’t know if it’s the right one. It’s by Natura, comes in a blue box.
So, I’m new to all this stuff; a rookie
What is the exact procedure for a face wash using borax and/peroxide?
And is there anything else i might try for what i think is blepahrits caused by rosacea….
Thanks everyone…
Hello again. Yes, I do at times get demonex mites that try to get under my eyelids. By using my formula around my eyes, but not in my eyes, I have been able now to keep most of them out. I am trying a hand laser now with my mixture to see if that is better. I have to be careful not to get the laser in my eyes. Someday, perhaps I can actually get a prescription for Ivermectin, but the doctors will not prescribe it now. I used to get red eye about once every two weeks due to the mites. Mike
Hi everyone,
My Borax box has a warning on the side ‘if swallowed or ingested, please seek medical help immediately”
I’m assuming most brands of borax have this, and i should ignore it, assuming I summon the courage to drink this stuff
Mark,
YOU DON’T DRINK BORAX.. It is a POISON..pitanjara
Hi! Mark,
Just a quick follow up. If you mix water and BORAX and then DRINK it, it will KILL OFF of the DEMODEX MITES and you along with them…
Alley, thank you for such helpful information. In addition to the tea tree oil tincture for your face and neck, did you have to find something additional for the skin directly under your eyes and for your eyelids, or was that not a problem for you?
Thanks!
I am 51 years old and have had rosacea for years. I am not able to wear make-up and my face appears red most of the time. I have breakouts etc. from the rosacea and see a dermatologist and have been prescribed the usual treatments. I use Arbonne products to was my face and mosturize, this has seemed to help with having less breakouts. And the moisturizer is soothing for a few a little while. I also have episodes where it effects my eyes and have scratches and scars on my corneas.
However, my biggest problem and one that effects every aspect of my life is the localized itching I experience around my nose. Actually, it is the folds of my nose on the skin on the sides around the nares. I have complained of this to different specialists, none of which seem to take me seriously. I have to take so much benadryl that it effects my ablility to want dot do much of anything. Benadryl seems to be the only antihistamine that helps. Pain medications have given me some short term relief, an hour or so. But my doctor won’t prescribe pain meds for itching anymore. I do have spider veins around my nose, but my dermatologist doesn’t think this would cause the itching.
Anyway, I had not heard of the mites before and may try the borax. I cannot believe how much the itching in such a small area effects my life. I know there a lot of things much worse. I am just wondering if anyone else has the itching problem. Thanks
About five days ago I had a demonex mite get under my left top eyelid. He was in there for about a day. Luckily the mite did not give me pick eye. I could feel him in there. I used to get pink eye once or twice a week from these mites. But now it has been well over two months, since I now have the mites somewhat under control. Mike
Dear Mike ,
Again i ordered al you’re products and used it but they’re all running trough my eyes i can’t see nothing !! I also went to an eye-doctor but he thought i was crazy as usual , i wish i’d never used this method but now it is to late , i am scared for becoming blind . Can you tell me in detail how you are using you’re method for you’re eyes because i don’t get it . If you use it on you’re eye lids are theye also running away from you’re eyes , so they can run elswhere and destroy something else ? Everyday my sight is getting weaker and weaker i only see floating mites tiny creepy biting demons .
Are you also see many floating tiny creepy crawlers when you look at you’re computer screen ?
And are al the red strains gone like this foto http://webeye.ophth.uiowa.edu/eyeforum/cases/case77/Ocular-Rosacea-Blurry-Red-Itchy_1.jpg ?
PLease help me in detail ,
God bless you all,
Desiny
I still get mites in my eyes at times (about once every two weeks). I use SnoSeal on my face when they are very active. I hope that this may help you some. Mike
You have so many mites that it will take a while to deminish their numbers. I am just starting to deminish their numbers (knock on wood). Mike
Are you using a product like SnoSeal? I use snoseal when the mites are active. It helps them to keep from being active. I use it on my face at night when I sleep, and I use it when the mites are very active other times as well. It kind of sticks them where they are. We have been given this horrible condition, and the best that we can do right now is to keep them at bay. Ivermectin (Rx) is the only other way. I also use a hand laser which does help even more. Mike
My wife was diagosed by a local Dermatologist as having Rocacea. He only did a visual inspection without any actual skin testing. He was sure it was Rocacea and prescribed an expensive cream which she would have to use for who knows how many years. Luckily she had a severe reaction to the cream, and discontinued it. She visitited her home country of Russia and was treated by a specialist. He told her she didn’t have Rocacea but had Demodex. She had one treatment by the doctor and her face is still clear after 6 months. Always get a second opinion.
Very interesting site.I have had the red face for 15yrs,sunlight used to cause raised pustules.
Anyway I have a host of other symptoms too but definitely have the mite.
I saw a private dr who prescribed Ivermec 12mgs,he knew what he was talking about.He said to get a bottle of vermox 30mls.Take 3 teaspoons. Three weeks later take the remainder. A week after that start the Ivermec.
I did this and was amazed that what I thought was blackheads came shooting out of the skin.He told me that after the initial heavy doses ‘we’ would have to take a regular dose every month as we would constantly be reinfected.This I have done.To good effect.
Well our docs here don’t even know about ivermec.Thats not surprising they have never heard of demodex either.
However I buy the ivermec from http://www.magicpharma.com its a safe site and hope it helps some of you.Ivermec is also known as stromectol.
I need my bed now but will return with some other tips soon.
For pain in the eyes and floaters …and I had both as well as blurred vision i use colloidal silver when i have the stabbing pain -just one drop in each eye.Daily I use a diluted mixture of baby shampoo and twice a week i use t tree oil diluted around eye area.
I no longer have floaters and my vision has improved greatly.
These demodex can be in the inner cheeks and mouth ???? cause of /burning mouth syndrome/lichen planus/geographical tongue??
I stopped using toothpaste and only brush with bicarbonate of soda and also use diluted hydrogen peroxide mouthwash.I have seen debris exit the inner cheeks. Peroxide and Grapefruit seed extract is very effective on these things..they seem to hate them.
There is a strange new illness appearing worldwide called morgellons.i was looking on the morgellons-uk.org site and some of the symptoms are similar i.e. parasitic mite. One of the new remedies tried and shown to be successful at getting these things out of the skin is: some strong (70%) alcohol gel mixed with Beezlebub (google this it is antiparasite/insect) A second container with some alcohol gel and Grapefruit seed extract mixed with it. Rub an amount on skin from first container,wait a couple of mins then rub some from second container over the top of first.Then wait. I have tried this and I had small greasy roll like things coming out at a fast rate. I rubbed it on chest and they came out of face. When i took ivermec they bubbled out from all over my nose.So what I had assumed were blackheads were no such thing.In fact I really don’t think ‘blackheads’ exist.And this treatment seems to complement the ivermec in getting them out.
I would definitely recommend giving this a try.
Hi everyone, I just found by accident that walgreen’s muscle rub (or any muscle rub containing a large percentage of camphor oil) works wonders on hair mites. If you can stand the smell, I highly recommend it over tea tree oil which evaporates too soon to be long lasting. The deep heating sensation I get is accompanied by what I have now learned is the feeling of expiring hair mites. The nicest features are the cost and availability – no prescription needed.
Hello Destiny. Perhaps you need to take England’s advice and order Ivermectin (Stromectol) from the website that he gave us. I looked into the website, and the prices are very very cheep. I am going to ask my doctor for it come tomorro. I guess that is the real way to go if you have a bad case of demonex mites. My treatments just keep the mites at bay, and at times I will have a breakout somewhere on my body. I am always fighting them one way or another. Mike
You can get meds from that site Mike without a script.Just fill in the online form.Its a good thing too as we would never be able to get a script from a doc here for such a thing as wormers.They don’t seem to believe that they could possibly invade an english body.LOL
Finally!!!! I got a prescription from my doctor for Ivermectin (Stromectrol). I will let you all know how it works. I took Ivermectin (five pills of 3 ml ea.) two days ago, and I have seen a great improvement! I will take it again next weekend to kill any eggs that may have hatched. I am also taking my mixture topically for any rosacea, but I do not need the SnoSeal right now. There is no activity. Mike
JNoble, what was the medcine? Please…
Hi I appreciate those of you who have consistently given info in here! I really dont feel to discuss this topic as I’ m so over it myself…4 years.
Here goes, I’ m interested to hear of the Ivermectin treatment thanks Mike I wonder how you’ ll go…you have greatly reduced your population comparitively as well already. My understanding is that there’ s quite a life cycle to get rid of so it may take time.
The epsom salts, diatomaceous earth and borax plus oil echoes something I have done that gives real relief. Two cups epsom salts with half cup olive oil in bath. Critters die after 12 mins. Oil suffocates them as they try to get away from epsom salt. I was given this advice from a commercial manufacturer whos natural enzyme product helped some but not ultimately. He told me this free info instead,very generously.
However I have a child and cannot submerge his head like I can mine for (I do 20) 12 mins. I regularly hold/sleep near my child so anything I do is temporary as he has them.You need to do this bath 3 times a week to break egg laying cycles for a good few weeks…probaby months dont stop! Yes I’ ve cleaned the clothing bedding etc forever…
I might try camphor oil rub Roger. But I dont like the idea of it burning my child either. I’ ve tried so many others. What happened was that I drove the critters crazy (v.v too) so that anything that they didnt like drove them into my ears. They lay eggs inside my ears now as well as nape of neck,top of head behind ears etc. I shaved my head for a while and could literally hear them popping as they hatched because they hid behind my ears in crevice as Id exposed my scalp where they usually are. My mother caught them and had the same experience, luckily she didnt get them living in her ears and obsessively shaved and doused herself for a month successfully. So they literally crawl out of my ears at night and wake me up.They reach anywhere on my body,crotch,arms,legs, feet but mostly head and ears/face. My ruddy complexion has worsened yes.
I reckon diet/digestion could play a part, yes.
The comment about helicobacter pylori infection makes sense that if there’s an imbalance in body system theres an over population of some kind of parasite and or bacteria. Ive been diagnosed with it (helicobactor) historically and candida. I’ m going to try internal applecider vinegar with the’mother’ in the bottle to balance my ph? I’ m concerned about drinking borax!
Please be careful with Tea tree oil it really burns! I’ve found it incredible that medics in their dismissal of my symptoms just leave me to try out all these insect poisons unsupervised!
This infestation is quite contagious. My last doctor suggested it was a ‘contagious idea’ when more than several family members suffered. Well that’s a contagious medical statement with plenty of objective research to back it up!
Ruth,
Don’t I know about the tea tree oil burning. There is no doubt, I have what amount to very strong sunburn in certain places if I bathe in it for too long. However the localized nature of the burns seems to suggest that it only burns when mites are present (and dying hopefully).
I went to the Dr. yesterday and (second time with him) explained to him that the tetracycline he prescribed had apparently no effect on the mites. He listened very intently and then after I suggested it, he prescribed Ivermectim (one done 18 mg). This was only after he listed all the possible bad side effects. (nausea, diarrhea, dizziness,swelling of your hands, ankles, or feet etc.)
I have yet to take it but will tomorrow. He did however have one other gem of information. Similar to Mike’s Beeswax solution, he suggested Eucerin cream. It goes on very thick like the Beeswax, but it is made for use on human skin, so it is very mild. It apparently works like the beeswax and suffocates the embedded mites as well. It also helps with the redness of rosacea.
Good luck to you in your quest to eliminate the mites.
I’m 63. Five years ago I noticed small dry flakey patches of skin on my forehead and front of my scalp. At night I would joke to my wife that I felt like bugs were walking across my forehead – an itchy creepy feeling. I went to a dematologist in Manhattan and after a very fast look she immediately said, “Precancer cells – do you have insurance?” She froze about 5-6 spots on my forehead which caused sores and scabs and healed in 2 weeks. But the peeling and flaking and itching came back and worsened. I went back, she repeated the process, but nothing changed. In fact, I started to get redness on my forehead and nose and crusty eyelids. I read about rosacea but the articles all said “No cure” so I figured that this was just something I have to live with. We retired to Europe and I started getting more and more redness and flaking and whiteheads and itching – and the third doctor I went to said “mites” (ugh) and told me to get “STOP DERMODEX” medicine -3 phase: a wash, a facial/head cream, & a cream for my eyelashes(all from Russia). In a week, I’m like new. I can’t believe it – I’m thrilled. I’m still using the medicines – just to make sure. Jay
Hello again. Yes, the Ivermectin did work. It killed about 95% of the mites, and affected skin that I did not otherwise get off came off as well (especially around the eyebrows). I took the prescription medicine once each week for two weeks (two times). I think this treatment is needed every six months to keep the population down on me. The rest of the time I will use what I was using, which seems to work some. That is the hand lazer (which is used for the hair, but I use it for my face and other affected areas). Do wear glasses designed for the lazer if you use it. Also, I use a mixture of 50% Teatree Oil, 45% Best Yet cedar oil with a penetrant that soaks it into the skin, and a touch of PineSol. I also put in a little oil to make it smell good. Also, I use SnoSeal on my face when the mites are active. This beeswax solution helps keep the bitting down when they are very active. As I have stated the Ivermectin (Stromectrol-US) did work greatly to reduce the numbers, but not completely.
Hi! Mike,
What type of Hand Laser do you use..? From time to time I receive treatment from a specialist using I.P.L. The end results are very good as this Dr. knows exactly what he’s doing.. Special cooling treatment for half an hour before the Light and half an hour after.. Any spider veins are treated separately by laser..
My eyes are totally ruined now only millions of eye floater very red and total disfunction . It looks like they burried holes at the end of my eyes . I can’t order the ivermectin because they don’t sell it to my country ( Holland ) . Every day my eyes are getting weaker and the eye doctors and regular doctors don’t know what it is and won’t give me ivermectin , my life is totally ruined now .
Hello Pitanjara. The hair laser that I use is the “Hairmax Premium Laser Comb.” Also, the Ivermectin did work for three weeks with virtually no mites to speak of, but they are returning little by little. I am using, in addition to what I use, strait Teatree oil in areas where there is main activity. It does burn a lot. In fact it burns an awfull lot, but it does work for stubborn areas. Otherwise, I cut it down to 50% in the main formula that I use. Mike
Hello Destiny. I am sorry to hear of your pending situation. You ought to try what Ruth does occasionally (#223). I ordered some Epsom Salts, and I am going to try it myself. I really do not think that I can hold my breath for 20 minutes, but I imagine that as long as I come up for air a few times it would not matter. She must have lungs like a fish. Mike
Hi! Mike,
In place of the teatree oil have you tried using the teatree clear ointment gel. Much kinder to the skin. With regards to Demodex mites, there are two types and I guess we all have both. Demodex Folliculorum and Demodex Brevis. As there are millions of mites there millions of people of different ethnic backgrounds suffering from Rosacea. Not sure that there will ever be a one off cure. Of the people I see daily in shopping centres and in other walks of life I often wonder if they know they have Rosacea, or if they are happy the way they look?
Hello Pitanjara. Yes I know there are two types. I have Demonex Folliculorum (longer mite). I know this because I have seen them in my microscope. I use the liquid Teatree oil, because I need to mix it with BestYet Cider Oil which has an excellent skin penetrant. Also, a touch of PineSol helps a lot as well. They don’t like the PineSol. I really do not have many mites right now due to using the Ivermectin, but I imagine I am not rid of them yet. This reprieve is very refreshing in deed!
Hi Folks,
First, for those rosacea sufferers: Please try an upper-cervical non-force chiropractor through NUCCA (National Upper Cervical Chiropractic Association), AUCCO (Asso. Upper Cervical Chiropractic Organizations) or Atlas Orthogonal. I’ve worked with several chiropractors over the years and have seen patients with rosacea and other severe skin disorders finally get relief by having their atlases adjusted — the theory is that there is some nerve disruption in the spinal column, and with facial skin issues it’s usually an upper-cervical issue. Your resistance to fighting of the little buggers is lowered due to the nerve interference.
As for myself…I had what I thought was tricotillomania (compulsive hair pulling). I’ve been pulling at my eyelashes for my entire adult life. I’m now realizing it’s Demodex! I recently went to an eye doctor for something else. He mentioned “staph” (also normal and common), then i went online and learned that demodex love to eat staph. I’ve never put my eyelashes under a microscope, but the ones that I pull out (and then get relief) are “gunky’, so I’m sure there are demodex on them.
Thanks for all the info here. I went to derms, eye doctors, therapists and psychiatrists and it was like no one wanted to bring up eye mites except one guy — Dr. David Viscott (a late great radio psychiatrist who I saw at a seminar in ’93).
I didn’t have any redness or infection or allergy (thanks to chiropractic); I think there WAS a psychological component; however, what they couldn’t seem to understand was that I felt a physical discomfort in my eyelashes (like, crawly), and when I pulled the “correct” one, the crawly sensation went away (for about a month, then it would start again…).
Viscott suggested Baby shampoo way back then and it helped while I kept it up. But life got really stressful and I fell out of the habit for some reason. Part of it was not knowing for sure that this was the problem. Since Viscott was a public figure and not my actual doctor I couldn’t go back to him for follow up. Our discussion occurred in a large conference hall in front of hundreds of people (embarrassing) and only lasted about five minutes. Then he passed away soon thereafter.
Anyway, I’m relived to know that the “tickle” in my eyelashes is caused by something other than just me being crazy. I GET IT that these mites are common and everybody has them, and that seems to be the reason why MDs are so apathetic about it, but they bug me, literally. I’m going to go back to the baby shampoo and also try a tea tree shampoo.
The Ivermectin worked great. I have hardly no biting at all now. I must have killed over 98 % of the mites. I will try to do this every six months. Also, the mixture that I use does take care of the rosacea. I have not had any outbreaks of rosacea for at least two months now. That’s great!!! Mike
Hi great news I get mites over body and head face etc but only immerse head body in bath as that’s where
mostly are. However I’m obviously (to me anyway) dealing with mites of one kind and maybe another or perhaps the same is causing rosacea. It’s confusing we all have variations on the symptoms. Just to be clear I’m a bbreather!
Great news Mike re invermectin and home recipe. Best I get onto it….x
I, too have had the demonex mites eye problems that I have been reading about and I ended up using the following treatment which I concocted (before I even found & began reading this site’s info).
I purchased one of the small glass bottles with the sprayer top (1 or 2 oz size & usually dark brown or dark blue glass) and put in 1/3 Tea Tree Oil 100% & 2/3 Denatured Alcohol 100% (for thinning of the TTO).
I lie on my back and spray/atomize the TTO/Alcohol horizontally, about a foot above my face and I let the mist descend & settle all around my closed eyes & face. The Alcohol that I use is NOT for consumption and should not be breathed in if possible and the sprayer should not be directed at the face, but well above it. The TTO mist will lightly settle and the thin coating will definitely do the job and will only sting a little.
I seem to be building up a slight tolerance to this TTO/Alcohol mixture and I am now able to mist 4 squirts of the sprayer. My eyes are much better now.
I am also using this sprayer to mist my bedding and the surrounding carpet area to make my sleeping environment as unappealing and ex-demon as possible for these demons – demodex mites.
One more comment – I remember reading in a Health Newsletter that I subscribe to that these Demodex Mites can be killed off from the scalp and inner ears by the use of Petroleum Jelly (Vasoline). It seems that the Petroleum Jelly clogs up the mite’s breathing pores and they quickly suffocate.
I have used the Petroleum Jelly sucessfully and should point out that it is easy to put too much in your ears. I put the Jelly on a Q-Tip and then swab the insides of my ears. It takes only a few minutes before these critters are dead.
The newsletter also suggested using a shower cap so that the Petroleum Jelly will not stain the pillow (as much) while you sleep. Putting Petroleum Jelly on your scalp by rubbing it in is a pretty messy task, but will work in 1 day.
I hope this info may be helpful to many of you.
can the eye doctor see demodex in the eyes????
I don’t think that eye doctors are trained to identify mites. In fact, I don’t think that any kind of doctor is actually trained to identify mites.
I could feel lots of them (past tense) clawing and poking and biting. It was painful and I could hardly see.
I thought it was pollen for a long while, but finally realized that my eyes were being attacked by some kind of critter.
Hi! JP,
My Eye Specialist identified mites by removing eyelashes and examining them under his microscope on the spot.. Yes I could see them..Very small at 600x.. Fortunately they don’t worry me in this area.. Ears are an excellent place to swab and examine.. A group of 4 us, 2 nurses and 1 professional exchange ideas.. We have all found that the mites are worse at night, and in the morning, look in the mirror and you have more red patches bumps etc.. Our nights now are O.K.. We all use a small USB fan set up on a stand about 3 feet from our face.. The unit is a simple one and is quickly adjustable.. Now when we wake up in the night our face is quite cool, you could say COLD.. Mites love the night when it is dark and warm and are quite active.. Not any more for us for we freeze the buggers.. Our faces we find are quite pale in the morning and free of irritation.. One snag, you have to learn to sleep on your BACK for the system to be affective.. Hope this maybe of some help..
Hi pitanjara,
It’s great that your Eye Specialist knew to look for the Demodex Mites.
What makes me wonder is that there are so many reports of doctors not having any idea about Demodex mites. And I wonder if your Eye Specialist took the initiative himself to learn about the Demodex Mites – or – was he actually trained (in Med School).
The following post I also posted on the other 2 forums -
I am now wondering if a possible link may exist between the people who have Demodex problems & the amount of sunlight (or lack) they are getting.
I have never had any allergies or any serious health issues before, but I am now working indoors and for the past few years have not been getting very much sunlight.
I am reading that Demodex does not like light (sunlight or artificial) so I now wonder if there may be a link between Demodex overpopulations & lack of Sunlight…
Are there many readers that get a lot of direct Sunlight and still have Demodex problems???
Back in ’95 I started having painful ‘blisters’ all over my face when I got into sunlight.I was told by GP to never go out without 60 factor sunscreen.I think this was a mistake.I think it protected them from the sun that was obviously irritating the hell out of them.So I used the factor for years,until I became aware that there was a prob with something in my skin.
After using everything I have read about on various sites and taking an Ivermec protocol..and continue to take one a month the problem is no where near as bad.Also the sunlight does not affect me at all.I think it may be the radiation from the sun they don’t like.
But I do think wearing sunscreen may be the wrong thing to do.With the increase in skin cancer I just wonder…if this mite may be behind it.Use the sunscreen and it protects the mite.
Mike so glad the ivermec has had a positive result for you.
I just found an answer! I’ve been suffering from itchy scalp for about a year (demodex- with itchy eyelids and face as well) and I finally found the answer for my scalp: ‘Neutrogena Clean’ Shampoo and Conditioner.
Both types- Volumizing or Moisturizing, work well! I had tried so many shampoos before– tea tree shampoo, dandruff shampoo, etc, but nothing really worked, just calmed my scalp for awhile, but with ‘neutrogena clean’ my hair is calm always. There’s no more irritating itching/ burning sensation, at least nothing like it used to be.
I found ‘neutrogena clean’ at Ulta and Walgreens. If you have an itchy scalp, please give this a try!
(face and eyelids unfortunately still itch some, but thank god at least my scalp’s calm)
Hello again. Both the rosacea and mites are now controlable by doing what I do now. I plan on taking Ivermectin (RX) from my doctor every six months, use the formula that I made up, and also use the hand laser every other day. I still get a few mites every now and then, but not to where I am too uncomfortable. I no longer get pink eye from the mites, and my rosacea is almost non-existant. Hopefully this keeps up. I have lived with this awfull condition (rosacea and mites), to where I thought that there was no hope, for too many years. Mike
Destiny -
There is quite a bit you can try for your eyes.
Firstly, for around your eyes, you can mix together some baby shampoo with a few drops of tea tree oil. Scrub your lids and lashes with this. Try not to get any in your eyes.
For inside your eyes, you can try:
- Eye drops, or most anything for dry eyes and/or some type of eye wash (do not use visine, or anything for redness.. it will restrict your blood vessels and that is not good..) Saline solution will do (for contacts)… anything with salt. Also, eye washes tend to contain a weak boric acid solution. Bugs hate boric acid and salt.
Look at the ingredients of the eyes washes and drops at your local pharmacy.
You can also make your own salt solution and drop it in your eyes. Make it weak at first, then see how your eyes react with a very weak solution.
- Sovereign silver. They may sell this at a health food store on online. I’ve used this in my eyes and ears before.
- If you can find some MSM eye drops, that may help as well. Bugs do not like sulfur either!
How do you know if you have the mites?
I have constantly pinky/red patcy skin all over face but have no spots or anything.
I do get the occasional flush and have found products that dont irritate my skin, so i have got it kinda under control, but it never improves past this point in the pinky/redness of it.
Will the ivermectin be useful for me to try as this could maybe be the problem?
Thats all i can think of, of what could be the reason of why it continues to be like this.
Also when i see people with pics of rosacea there faces seem to be clear and then get red from a flush, while my face always seems to have a pinky/red blotchy tone all over and not just in patches of the face.
Also my face does get redder all over after a shower but obviously settles down again, however apart from my face, basically neck downwards i have perfect skin so cannot work it out – its just my face affected.
Any help and advice would be greatfully appreciated.
Hello Alexis. A doctor is needed to diagnose you of Rosacea. Also, there are three main types of Rosacea. Some (not all) people with Rosacea have an outbreak of demonex mites due to one’s chemistry. Mike
I have done quite a bit of research lately and I have tried numerous solutions & oils which definitely helped, but only the Petroleum Jelly and the following Solution have actually killed off these Demodex Mites for me.
I did additional research into Borates and found that the Boric Acid is lethal to most insects due to its dehydrating properties, but is not very solubile in water or oil. Boric Acid is virtually harmless to humans when externally applied, and 1 site formulated Boric Acid as an insecticide with the proportions if 1 Tablespoon of Boric Acid to 1 Liter of Solution.
I then found that Boric Acid is quite soluble in Alcohol.
I am now using & am getting VERY GOOD results using the 16 oz size of 91% Isopropyl rubbing alcohol (which is about 1/2 Liter) with 1/2 Tablespoon (1 1/2 Teaspoons) of Boric Acid.
I saturate my dry scalp and massage in the Solution. Then I apply this Solution to my face with cotton balls. I am still using the Petroleum Jelly on a Q-Tip to swab the insides of my ears because I feel that the Boric Acid/Alcohol Solution in my ears may be detrimental in some way due to possibly being in internal application.
(Better safe than sorry !!!)
I actually purchased the Boric Acid from an Alternative Energy BioDiesel company & I decided upon 4 Pounds of the Food Grade Boric Acid (100% Anhydrous) It appears that the 4 Pounds I now have is enough Boric Acid to last for about 150 Years ! The cost was about $25.
This company is –
http://www.dudadiesel.com/index.php
And there are others as well…
I have also read that 75 years ago – “Every Dermatologist knows of the link between Rosacea and Low Stomach Acid…”
The Tea Tree Oils and other Essential Oils that I have tried seemed to stun the Demodex but they would quickly recover in a few days. The costs of these Essential Oils can become quite costly, quickly. The Boric Acid/Alcohol Solution that I am using is less than $2 per Week.
Another benefit of the Boric Acid/Alcohol Solution is that the Alcohol is miscible (mixes) with the Natural Oils in the skin and when the Alcohol evaporates, the Boric Acid will be deposited in these Oils and the Demodex will not be able to avoid consuming the Boric Acid, which will dehydrate and kill them. My skin is not particularly sensitive so some people may opt for less Boric Acid (I actually started with 1 Teaspoon per 16 oz Alcohol) and others may be able to tolerate higher concentrations.
I hope this info may be of help and I assure all that it has definitely helped me.
Hello JP. I have tried both Boric Acid and Petroleum Jelly, and they did not work for me. Boric Acid mixes well with boiling water. I do use it for my eyes if I have an infection in my eyes. The amout of Boric Acid that I use for this is not with me right now. I use Teatree Oil mixed with “Best Yet” Cedar Oil. Best Yet has an ingredient that soaks the mixture DEEP into the skin where the mites are. This is important for me. Also, I use a hand laser every other day. These two methods keep the mites at bay and the rosacea almost non-existant. Ivermectin (RX) really does knock the mites out for awhile. I plan an getting two dosages of Ivermectin from my doctor every six months. I use the dosages four days apart from each another. If what you are doing is working for you, that is good. It does not work for me. I wish you the best. Mike
But I will try the alcohol solution of Boric Acid. Mike
I am once again working during the day and I am getting a lot of sunlight, so my personal experiences with the Boric Acid/Alcohol Solution can not be considered absolutely definitive.
I have noticed that the small bumps on my forehead and beside my nose have become much smaller.
I have decided to continue the application of the Boric Acid/Alcohol with the hopes that creating a hostile environment for the Demodex (demon) Mites will eliminate them once and for good.
I plan on continuing this treatment daily for at least 2 weeks beyond any noticeable activity of these Mites.
I have plenty of Boric Acid, so if they don’t depart readily, I can keep up the assault continuously for many, many years…
We also have to kill demdex from the inside , i think ivermectin works best but my doctor won describe it and i can get it from that website because they won deliver it . Can someone please give other suggestions because the mites crawl beside my eyes . The are pushing my eyeballs away because they ran all to a safe spot . How can i get ivermectin, please !
Destiny,
Not sure if below is of any help..?
http://www.genericstromectol.com/
Destiny which country do you live in? I know several people who have had stromectal from this site who live in the US and UK so can’t understand why they won’t post to you.
Hello Destiny. I am trying PJ’s Boric Acid and alcohol solution to see if it will work some. When I did I remembered making up a solution years ago with Boric Acid for my eyes when I had an infection in my eyes. I thought about you. I looked up the amounts for the solution. It is: 1 Teaspoon Boric Acid in 4 Onces of water. Boil the water and add the Boric Acid and stir until it is desolved. Let the mixture cool, and then in an eye glass soak your eyeballs with it. I hope that this might help you get rid of these annoying bugs that are in your eyes. Mike
I did it again. I used my real name instead of Marca. Mike
I am now proceeding with a theory that a solution of 100% Isopropyl Alcohol (Anhydrous) & 100% Boric Acid (Anhydrous) will deliver the maximum Dehydrating effect against these Demodex Mite parasites.
I have experimented with “Salting Out” the water from the 91% Isopropyl Alcohol by dissolving Sodium Chloride (Salt) in this Alcohol. The 9% water will dissolve a much higher quantity of the Sodium Chloride and will separate from the Alcohol. The water will sink and the Alcohol will rise. Then the (near) 100% Isopropyl Alcohol can be decanted (poured off) to another container. Any Sodium Chloride that dissolves in the Alcohol will have no consequences for our purposes. 100% Isopropyl Alcohol can be found on the Internet but its cost very much outweighs the 50 cents of Sodium Chloride that I used to “Salt Out” 4 Liters of the 91% Alcohol.
I have dobbed my closed eyes with cotton saturated with this solution, and if I keep my eyes closed (even lightly) the alcohol does not sting. But if I open my eyes at all before the Alcohol has evaporated, then it will really sting harshly. (I’m glad I’m not a Demodex Mite !!!)
I have also increased the Boric Acid concentration to near the saturation level which is about 2 Tablespoons per Liter.
And I have very carefully tested this Solution inside my ears (first by using a Q-Tip) and have experienced No detrimental effects.
Lastly, I am of the belief that simpler is better and I do not want to alter my internal chemistry by ingesting any chemicals to combat an external parasite.
But how do you kill these mites from the inside ? It’s not only the upper eye they crawled in my eye and it feels like my eyes are exploding , so what i am trying to say is that they have to be killed from the inside but how ? I have been trough the doctor and eye doctor for 11 times now and they think i am crazy !!! I thought that boric acid was dangerous , or do you mean borax ?
I really ruined my eyes , when i put the solution with tea tree oil because they al went to a safe spot and that was the eyes .
@ england
They won’t ship to the netherlands , thats what makes it impossible . I also asked it a few times through mmy doctor but they won’t subscribe it .
Destiny –
If you think that these mites (or possibly an infection) has invaded your nasal sinus passages in back of your eyes, then using a Neti Pot (which looks like the very old style oil lamp) with 8 ounces of Saline Solution (1/2 Teaspoon of Sea Salt dissolved in 8 ounces / ¼ Liter of Water) and flushing your nasal sinuses would be a good start. This will wash out and clean your nasal sinuses.
I would next add to the above ¼ Liter Solution – 1 drop of Thyme Oil, 1 drop of Cinnamon Oil, 1 drop of Clove Oil. You might have to shake or stir to mix these Essential Oils in the Saline Solution. These Essential Oils are very concentrated and will sting your nasal / sinus passages, but they will clean these passages and destroy any infections. I sometimes use different combinations of these Oils (Thyme Oil is the best for fighting infections).
I have also used a Sea Salt Saline Solution as an eye wash using as strong a Salt Solution as I could tolerate and I have also tried a pinch of the Boric Acid in this Solution as well to help clean up the front sides of my eyes. The Demodex Mites are not able to tolerate Salt. I repeated these steps at least 4 times a day.
The 100% Isopropyl Alcohol + 100% Boric Acid as a Saturated Anhydrous Solution is the Strongest Solution that I have found to combat external Demodex Mites. This Solution can even be applied to your eyelids and eyelashes (taking care to not get any in your eyes).
I also pour a small amount of Eucalyptus Oil in a dish beside my bed, and the Eucalyptus Vapors will clear my sinuses as I sleep.
I hope this info may be of a help to you. I had these Mites very seriously attacking my eyes and I have now succeeded in my efforts to eliminate them. I am now in the (possibly final) 2 week period where I will continue these treatments until there is no noticeable Demodex Mite activity.
- J P
Dear J P ,
Thanks for you’re advice i am trying the sinus flushing as you discribed i really really hope that it wil help . Did you also feel like youŕe eyeballs will explode as due to some pressure ? Also did you feel a very very bad headache ?
My face and eyebrows are very red and i used tea tree oil on my face that went totally wrong , then i quit with everything i’ll hope that they won’t reproduce themselves a lot . Everyone has demodex mites but how can you kill the ones who are ruining youŕe life without killing the good ones ?
my eyes look like this only the red scars are deeper
http://rosacea-support.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/ocular_rosacea.jpg
do you think this will decrease ?
i am sorry for all my questions but i am desperate right now as i am 22 years and very very depressive .
I will order the boric acid and isoropyl alcohol today , do i have to clean only the eyes or my whole face ?
thanks J P
god bless you all
PS if somebody has some ivermectin i will pay you extra if needed !
Hello again. Oh JP, my mixture seems to work better than yours. But, I will still give it a work out. Mike
What seems to work best to kill them in an area where they are well entrenched is to soak them (cloth or paper towel) in 91% alcohol for 10 minutes or longer. Be careful not to lift up the skin in the process. Mike
I am using my 100% Boric Acid/100% Alcohol Solution twice daily now.
Once on my dry scalp (in the evening), and immediately after a hot shower and quickly drying my hair (in the morning).
After the hot shower, the pores of my skin are opened and the alcohol of my Solution stings a little which indicates to me that it has reached deep into the pores. (Even though there may be some water remaining).
I am finally at a point where I can sense ultimate Victory soon.
This Solution may not work for everybody – everybody is different…
Hi!
Destiny, I do have access to Stromectol (Ivermectin) (3mg tbs.) one off dose and this depends on body weight..I will not take them myself as to the side affects..Unfortunately My country,s Custom would not allow them to be sent..Perhaps somebody somewhere does not have the same problem and could forward to you in a plain envelope.. A one of dose is all that is needed.. In my country it is used to treat strongyloidiasis an intestinal worm which can be fatal..I do hope that help for you arrives soon…God zegene niet toegeven.
Destiny: just a follow up re eyewash boric acid (boracic acid)..Try this site for eyewash info?..
http://www.ehow.com/how_4899721_make-boric-acid-eye-wash.html
Hi! All,
Could someone explain why it is necessary to use alcohol as the solvent or carrier for boric acid, apart from drying time.. boric acid CRYSTALS dissolve immediately in distilled water.. This can be applied to the facial areas without the associated skin drying action of alcohol, Not Good.. It will still dry but take a little longer leaving the boric acid (BORACIC) on the skin for the mites to ingest.. Contrary to popular belief Demodex Folliclorum is not always buried deep into the follicles..They come to the surface of the skin at night anyway.. Brevis type is.
Boric Acid will attach to and bond to Water. If the Boric Acid is inside a Mite then it will pull water from the Mite’s metabolism and will dehydrate the Mite, and it has been reported that this dehydrating process disrupts the Mite’s metabolism to the point of being lethal.
Alcohol (100%) has no water and will not lessen the effectiveness of the dehydrating ability of Boric Acid.
The purity of 100% Boric Acid is evaluated by the (Anhydrous) lack of water (as 1 type of property). Many grades of Boric Acid have a rather large % of their composition composed of water. While the effectiveness of these lesser grades of Boric Acid/Water can only be evaluated on an individual basis, the purest grades can not be bettered as to their dehydrating potential and are but slightly more expensive.
I have not experienced any adverse drying of my skin by the Alcohol, but as always, everyone is different…
can you also use hydrogen peroxide instead of alcohol ?
Hydrogen Perixide is usually only 3% in a 97% water Solution…
So its effect would be much more like water.
At one point, I used the Petroleum Jelly IN my Eyes. Its effect is instantaneous and even though you will not be able to see, the mites will be prevented from surviving once they have been coated with the Petroleum Jelly.
The Petroleum Jelly does not hurt at all and in fact is closer to a Salve which should help heal the eyes. This should be applied at a time when you can keep your eyes closed for several hours.
Don’t be afraid to use quite a lot!
I hope this helps…….
Dear Jp
I used you’re eye wash yesterday 3 times but they are making deep red scars in my eyes do you had that also ? And are these red lines are going away ?
The Sea Salt will redden the eyes but will not damage them.
The Petroleum Jelly is much gentler to the eyes but can be very messy.
Of these 2, I found that the Petroleum Jelly worked faster – but – I ended up covering the bed with a Plastic Sheet (Painter’s drop cloth) and I also covered the Pillows with large Plastic Trash Bags. This prevented the Petroleum Jelly from permanently staining these cloth covered articles.
These Mites can only live a couple of weeks, so your perseverance can easily defeat them. Creating an environment that is continuously adverse to their survival will exterminate them. I remember very thickly applying the Petroleum Jelly to my eyes 3 or 4 times per day for about 3 days. I could not see enough to be in public, but then these Mites were also preventing my being in public as well…
I am finding that the Saturated Solution of 100% Boric Acid (Anhydrous) in 100% Isopropyl Alcohol (Anhydrous) has eliminated the surviving Mites from my scalp, has improved my complexion (!) and has no side effects. The excess Boric Acid in my hair may well be deposited on the cloth bedding, providing yet another barrier to these Mites.
The only warning for this Solution is that the Alcohol is Highly Flamable and care should be taken to allow at least 15 minutes for it to evaporate before approaching any open Flames.
I am now virtually – ‘Demodex Mite Free’.
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For those who missed my previous post –
http://www.dudadiesel.com/index.php
has the ‘Food Grade’ 100% Anhydrous Boric Acid. I don’t think that there is any purer grade than this.
I don’t have rosacea but have struggled with mites in my eyelashes for decades. Was misdiagnosed as having compulsive hair pulling — but was pulling b/c I felt the mites. Anyway, i’ve been washing my eyes (carefully) with tea tree shampoo once or twice a day for a few weeks and it seems to be working. My eyelashes are coming back and I rarely feel that “tickle” of having the mites in my eyelashes.
Hello again. I also have these mites entering my eyes at times. I used to get pink eye once a week at one point. But with what I am doing they very seldom get into my eyes to where I have to do something. I did though get pink eye a few days ago from them. What I did was to use my Boric Acid solution to drive them out, and it worked! I mixed one teaspoon of Boric Acid to four ounces of water, and boiled it until it desolved. I applied this solution to the eye with an eye glass. While soaking the eye I rolled my eyeball around a few times. I found this to be effective for me. After doing this a few times that night the pink eye went away very quickly (like overnight). Mike
Hi! Mike Marca,
The following site has some interesting information including a “Pink Eye show”.. You have to do a bit of sorting to get the info: (My Specialist recommended eye wash was 1pt.boric acid to 100pt.water???.) All the Best.p.j.
http://www.medicinenet.com/pink_eye_pictures_slideshow/article.htm
I,ll have a website running at the end of August..www.helpfulfiles.com
Dear Jp and Others,
I do have deep red scars in my eyes i use the petrolum and the boric acid slution you described. But i theye are burrying into my eyes and destroying my eyes completely . Maybe it is easier to destroy them when you have pink eye but not when they are burrying deeper into the eyes it hurts like hell not stinging but felling them bruuying deeper holes. So when i take the solution and the petroleum they are making deeper scars because they want to run away , i ruined my eyes totally . I also can’t watch computer or tv without sunglasses becauses also then they are buurrying deeper scars in my exxyes , i hope this will go away . Also the cornea is gone at both eyes because the have destroyed it and that’swhy youhave constantly 24/7 dry , big yellowish eyes full with red deep scars, nd eveytime you want to kill them they are making more problems but when you do nothing they ar also making problems . It is really terrible and i hope this will come to an end soon , but i have no hope in doctors because i went trough eye doctor and regulars doctors 11 times the lost month .
Destiny,
Your Eye Specialist or any Eye Specialist should recognize your problems.. I do not understand that they should let your eyes go on untreated for so long?..Are there OTHERS EYE SPECIALISTS in your town? Preferably a Female Doctor, ANY female Doctor..P.J.
Ik heb medelijden met u. U leek te hebben geleden te lang. het allerbeste
how do you know if you have these mites or not??
Hey Guys,
This blog post is getting really long.
Can I tempt anyone over to the Rosacea Support Community Forum to store these discussions in an easier (and faster) to read way ?
You could try the new Demodex Mites Eradication sub forum. Feel free to start a new thread there.
Also, each person who registers for the forum can even create their very own blog to write their story and theories. See Want your own Rosacea Blog ? for info on how to do this.
Any takers ? Your thoughts would then be so much easier for others who come after you to follow.
thanks so much,
davidp.
I know that it is the mites causing my pink eyes at times, because I can feel the mites going into the eye when it happens. I also know that pinkeye can be attributed to many other things. Luckily, I rarely have pink eye anymore due to what I am doing to keep the mites at bay. I used to get pink eye once a week, but now with what I am doing I am lucky to get pink eye once in two months. Mike
Hi everyone.
I have had demodex for more then 10 years.
I have tryed many things but no result. It coming again and again.
NOw I have found a new stuff from OLD CHINA!
cream MANTING
here is the link.
http://www.demodex.info/manting.htm
If anyone is interested to buy it please contact me via email: paruir@armenia.com
I too found ZZ cream thank God, it changed my life. The rosacea that prevented me from even leaving the house and giving me deep depression, is completely gone. It took about a week for improvement and now I have used zz 3 months, still totally clear. There are three shops I have found, I liked Jamushop best.
Hi I’ ve not returned much as I’ ve found that since using a Neutrogena 5% coal tar shampoo for a good 5 weeks and then Thursday Plantation Tea Tree oil shampoo and conditioner daily my symptoms have greatly reduced.
Creepy crawly invisible mites that have distinct nymph and adult phase and hatching phase. Mostly found on head behind ears inside ears on face etc but whole body when at worst. They bite like a sandfly. The dot they leave only last a day or a few hours. But they wake me at night crawling in and out of ears and on face especially eyebrows and eyelashes, biting itching, nerve wracking. 4 Years. I’ m so relieved to be so symptom free. I stopped using the coal tar after reading it is toxic/carcinogenic in its higher percentage however I might just use it a few more times because it was so effective.
It seems the tea tree shampoo conditioner are keeping the nymphs down, Im very impressed. I’ ve also been swiping the creatures that I feel on my face in the middle of night with a salivated finger and that stops them, ( I eat them, tho theres nothing to taste or feel or see on my finger ) so when I can I catch them this way and rub saliva on the back of my ears, like a cat, where I know they like to hatch. I barely notice them now.It’ s just a matter of time to hatch all eggs and be free.
I might try a treatment for the rosacea once my mind is free of these minute parasites. My life is very different these past few months, I’m focussed on other things instead, phew!
Thank God I am safe with this disease. May GOD cure the disease of the infected people
I have had this for a little over 6 years..no one ever believed me and I felt so alone.. I am just now learning what it is. The info makes me feel like weight has been lifted off my shoulders… Ive always been too scared to talk about it let alone ask any questions. I am soo miserable I currently attend school and its hard because these things are jumping and falling off of me. I’M NOT EVEN SURE THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO DO THAT TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH- People that sit next to me are constantly scratching themselves because I make them itch!! My family is itchy and braking out…
This site has awesomely given me some wonderful ideas on what to try but I don’t work I’m a student right now and money is little to nothing. I want to try to mix some household products I already have and see if it’ll help… Does and one of any foundations or something donate any help such as Tea Tree Oil or Borax?? I need information on how to disinfect my home after my little girls and myself get rid of these mites from hell.. They’ve be ruining my life. I’m not the happy person I should be, I hate my life at this point.. I have to be strong for my girls and find some help!!
These things really got bad when I kinda stopped eating to lose some weight. I need to disinfect my home, disinfect my family and I don’t know what to do I want to cry..
Do I throw all my makeup, my linens, clothing, toys, furniture??? Do I have to wear a full body suit to clean?? How much Bleach can I have to the bath?? When I take any kind of bath do I dunk my head as well??
Aside from Online where can I find the Borax?? Am I supposed to call an exterminator?? Can someone CALL ME OR EMAIL ME SOME HELP PLEASE~ I’m so depressed and discussed-ed with life.. My girls do not deserve that, they deserve a mom to always show them love and never avoid them because she has stupid bugs!! I want to be comfortable in my own skin its been too long…
Sorry for venting and babbling on..
thanks for listening~
Help Please
God Bless
(K>)
Hi Needa,
Demodex mites do not jump around and infest other people as the human flea does. Demodex mites are apart of the human life and exist on just about every body’s skin including film stars and Ex Presidents like (Bill Clinton) who suffers from Rosacea. They cannot survive more than a couple of hours away from the human body. I suspect that you have an infestation of some other kind. Perhaps somebody else out there can help with your troubles. Take Care..
Hello again. I mixed Sublimed Sulphur into my mixture, and not only are the mites moving some when the mixture is applied they are dieing!!! This may well be the cat’s ass for topical treatments for rosacea and demonex. The only other thing that works better than this is Ivermectin (RX). But Ivermectin only lasts for about two months before they start multiplying again. My mixture is as follows now: 50% Teatree Oil, 40% “Best Yet” (cedarcide.com), 5% Sublimed Sulphur, and 5% PineSol. You can also add a touch of Lavender Oil and Chammonile Oil to make it smell better. I just started doing this so in a month I should know exactly how it works. I have tried almost everything out there! Hopefully, I have it down now. Mike
Hi! Some of you may find this an interesting site in NZ..
http://dermnetnz.org/acne/img/red-face/index.html
Here is all the info you need to know about Demodex Mites
1) just about everyone over the age of around 10 has demodex mites, pet owners of dogs and cats will definately have them.
2) Generally they cause little or no problem if your imune system is healthy.
3) When they become problematic they can cause havoc with your skin with varying degrees and intensities of acne roscea.
4) Generally demodex only affects the face and head but in an imune supressed person it can quickly spread to other parts of the body.
5) The easiest way to determine that you are sufering from demodex mites is having acne rosea accompanied with a tickling/crawling sensation on your face and head at night this may progress to other parts of the body.
6) The life cycle of the mite is as follows. Mites lay eggs 12 hrs after becoming an Adult, Eggs take 60 hours to become a Larva, Larva take 36 hrs to become a Protontype, Protontype take 72 hrs to become a Nymph, Nymphs take 60 hrs to become an Adults. Total life cycle is 10 days.
7) Demodex come in two distinctive flavours, Demodex Folliculorum and Demodex Brevis. Upto 8 mites live in each of the hair folicules and feed on the sebum/oil. They live deep enough and build a protective membrain to be protect themselves from most agents that you can put on your body. However they do not live so deep as to come into contact with the blood suply carrying distructive white blood cells.
9) To attack the eggs, grind in a pithal, 10 whole cloves into a fine powder and take this four times a day. It taste horrible and you will need a glass of water to get it to go down. But I have it on authority that as the body becomes saturated the cloves will kill Demodex eggs on contact. (Its a bit like eating whole garlic, you can eventually smell it on your skin)
10) To attack the adults there is two distinct formulas you need to make up. The first is a plain 5-7 percent Sulphur Powder mixed with a carrier oil. (I judge it by volume) Jojoba oil is the best to use as it is the closest to your natural sebum which the mites feed off but you can use any food type oil, rape seed, corn oil or olive oil or even your fabourite hand cream or body lotion as long as it is oil based. The second is a Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide mix. You take Three cups of hot water and add one cup of hydrogen peroxide to it. Then you stir in three table spoons of Borax powder. A WORD OF WARNING — DO NOT CONFUSE BORIC ACID WITH BORAX — BORIC ACID IS VERY CORROSIVE AND DANGEROUS TO USE
11) Both formulas kill ALL BREEDS OF MITES on contact.
12) The Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide formula is best for animals. Just make it up and put it into a spray bottle. Give them a normal bath and shampoo and then rinse. Let them shake themselves dry and then give a good dowsing of the Borax Solution twice a week for about 3 months. Be careful around the eyes.
13) For steralising your home use the spray bottle to spray just about everything that you have. Do your bed in the morning and leave the covers pulled back. Do your sofa, chairs soft furnishings, carpets and floors last thing at night. Dont forget to do the dogs bed as well.
14) The Borax Solution in a spray bottle can be used like a hospital hand disinfectant after you have touched your pet, squirt a little onto your hands and rub in to kill any mites that you may have picked up.
15) Now treating you and your family. Yes is one of them cases where if one is done then everyone has to be done including the pets. Bummer aint it. Have a good hot bath that contains a pint of brown vinigar in the water last thing at night. (vinigar helps to open the pours of the skin) After dripping dry a little rub in the borax or the sulphur solution. Every part of the body must be covered with the eyes being the only exception.
Drip drying is the best way of drying in this operation though you can use an electric fan to help. Sorry no towels in this operation.
16) You need to change all of your clothing and your sheets and pillow cases every single day while you are being treated.
It is best to have at least two sets of pillows so that you can alternate between them on a three day cycle.
17) Now for the bad bit. This laborious treatment is the only one that will work. You may have top continue doing it for upto 120 days. It is only when you have no symptoms for ten days that you can be sure that you are clear. Any member of the family that cuts the cure short will set the whole family back to time zero and you will have to start over again. You cannot cheat the Mites, they intend not only to suvive but to also thrive on your body. They have been doing it for thousands of years and have become experts at suviving.
Doctors remidies such as Derbac M, Permethrin and other incetacide agents will not penetrate the protective membrain they have put in the hair folicle. Ivermectin carried in the blood will not reach or affect the mites at all.
ITS YOUR DETERMINATION TO RID YOURSELF AND YOUR HOUSE OF THE MITES THAT WILL WIN IN THE END.
hi all
Thank you to all out there who have given their advice on controlling rosacea. My concern is that I wake in the morning with a red bumps that looks like an insect bite that itches like mad. They progress to hard red postules. They do not heal. I have them for several months. They develop into scabs and I think they are healing but underneath the lump seems to rejuvenate and the cycle starts again. I have very dry scaly skin on my face, forehead, chin etc. I have tried everything!! at the moment I am trialling 100% alcohol and sulphur mixed in a face cream?
Why won’t my skin heal? Even when I have a cold sore it takes months to years to heal? any suggestions?
thank you for any tips!!
cheryl
I just bought the zz cream last week, kinda drys out my face, but I’ll keep using it to see if it works.
What really works for me is going to sleep with some lights on. They come out when it is dark. Although it is kinda difficult to sleep when there’s light in the room, that’s why I’m trying the zz cream.
Hello again. The mixture that I described above with the Sulfur works very good at getting rid of demonex mites that live in the eyebrows. I am just now getting my eyebrows back. Mike
This is very significant! I have never had my eyebrows back since I have had demonex along with rosacea (many years now). Even when I used Ivermectin I still had some problems with my eyebrows. You name it ZZ cream, alcohol, or a list of so many other products, these products never took care of my eyebrows. I believe that I now have something that works with my eyebrows. The same mixture without sulfur works great for just rosacea, but for the eyebrows and other areas like this I add the sulfur. But be careful with it though. It is a bit agressive. It can always be deluted with the mixture without the sulfur. Mike
Mike,
Please can you write below your formula for topical application – where to get the stuff and exactly how to put it together? I want to try this.
Can i put it in hair and eyelashes etc also?
Thanks,
Luke
i tried the zz cream for 3-4 mnths as instructed and it scarred my face leaving holes in the skin much like acne scarrs.i think this cream is to harsh for some skins and i would advise people to be very careful if they decide to use this stuff.
i think that the rosocea is a digestive /intsetine problem may be the hpylori as some believe, we all have are own theories.probiotics work wonders for me for a few weeks and then the symptoms return.alternating with different cultures and stopping probiotics for 2 weeks and then starting again does have some effect.
Hey Luke. My formula is eight entries before (#289). You can get all of the ingredients on Ebay, except for the “BestYet.” I believe that the “BestYet” is important because it contains a 90% skin penetratant that brings the mixture down to where the mites are. You can get BestYet at cedarcide.com. The formula without the sulfur works great for rosacea while the formula with the sulfur works great for attacking the mites. You also need to shake the mixture before using it. And yes, I use it for hair areas as well, except for the eyelids. When I use it for my eyebrows the mixture does to some extent work its way down to the eyelids. Any more will probably get into the eyes. It will burn the eyes. The mites will move around a lot for a day or two after applying the formula with the sulfur leaving small red pimples where they bite. After a few days as their numbers decline this will subside. I am still testing the formula on myself, but I do see a significant benefit already. My eyebrows are on the way back. The first time in over four years. And this is after I have tried may may different products, including RX.
If you haven’t tried this, try it- DIAL ANTIBACTERIAL SOAP bar on your scalp. and the rest of your body. it has to say antibacterial. I got this from another forum for smelly/itchy scalp and many people were CURED by this. they said things like, i used this for a couple weeks and all the itching etc went away. I’m only on the first day of it, i will try to post again to let you know. triclosan is an antibacterial agent, which is in dial and other soaps. it apparently gets the bacteria out of your hair, etc and the mites have nothing to thrive off of. The ppl in the forum didn’t mention demodex, they perhaps haven’t heard the term, but the symptoms they described were definetely related to demodex. i noticed dramatic results after washing my hair with dial once.
give it a try. what do you have to lose? it costs $4.
Hey Luke. I also found out that I really do need SnoSeal to seal over the formula when I sleep. You can buy it on ebay or in a leather shop. It is primarily beeswax with a petroleum product to make it paste like. The mites bite a lot more at night, and the SnoSeal seals your face and eyebrows. Otherwords, it helps to keep them out. With the formula and snoseal I am having more of a success. These mites are tough buggers. Mike
Oh, I forgot to add to my formula that a little Zinc Oxide makes it twice as effective. ZZ cream’s main ingredients are Sublime Sulfur and Zinc Oxide, but my formula works for me while ZZ cream does not. I guess my formula for demonex mites would be:
45 % Treetea Oil
40 % “BestYet”
5 % PineSol
5 % Subline Sulfur
5 % Zinc Oxide
The Zinc Oxide also hides the smell of Sulfur. This formula seems to be working. I will know in about a month. At the very least it works better than anything that I have tried yet except for Ivermectin (RX). And it may rival Ivermectin. At least that is my hope. Mike
Hi Mike,
So Happy to hear that you were able to try the Ivermectin.
Had my e-mail scammed and it also had a virus in it, luckily I was still able to keep up with all of you a nd read all the comments.
What a huge amount of info from all of you, a little over welming. But great!
I also went to a different derma Dr. and also was prescribed the Ivermectin and Permethrin.That day the only thing he could see on my skin were blood vessels, his asst. said the same thing. I was given 4 tablets of three mgs. each. Also did the topical, which I think didn’t do much for me. I know I have the mite thing going on we all know what that feels like. My thing here is for almost a year now my breakouts were hardly any,occasionally I would get little red bumps over these blood vessels, with in a day or two they were gone.I decided to try your formula everything but the zinc was in it (don’t have zinc) it seems like it broke up these blood vessels but still have them and I did add more cedar oil to it cause I thought it was making my cheeks feel like sand paper. Hope you or someone can help me out.The Derma Dr. didn’t do any skin scraping and I don’t know if these mites live under the blood vessels? This causes so much stress for me and I’m sure others as well.
Was on the other forum reading their comments they still think we with Rosacea might have a SIBO small infectionous bacteria overgrowth and a drug called Rifaximin from Silix Pharma. It is like a 10 -14 day treatment 1,200 mg.noy sure if it was daily or 3-4 doses. Results were very good.People need to do what they call a Hydrogen Breath Test with a gastero Dr.
Have you or others seen this?
I better let you go this is a long note. Hope to hear from you.
Maureen
Mike and Others,
I wanted to mention that maybe the reason I don’t hardly break out any more is do to my taking of Vitamin D-3. I take 5,000 IU per day. The tech who has a PHDthat I see Told me to take this it is really supposed to help with our Immune systems. I also took 25,000 units of it a day with a 1,000 mgs of vitamin C for a couple of days when I was feeling that I was coming down with something==== never got anything.
One article on the other site was talking about the importants of Vit. D-3, Calicum,Vit A.
Just wanted to share this with everyone, it has really helped me.
Thanks To All
Maureen
can someone please send me some ivermectin pills trough mail i will give you some extra money , my email is cosmos012@gmail.com
please help me
I works.
It works.
Destiny, try my formula in #301. If it is too strong just cut it with a little more “Best Yet.” It is working for me. It is the first stuff that has really worked for me outside of Ivermectin. But Ivermectin only works for a few weeks before the mites start coming back again, while my formula can be used continually. All the ingredients can be bought in ebay except for BestYet (cedarcide.com). Mike
Hi Mike, Have been using your formula for a few weeks now, also added the sulphur to it also. I always shake it up good cause the sulphur doesn’t seem to mix well,is this normal? Also at night I use the sno-seal but in the morning it’s hard to get it off my face. Do you clean your face with soap or other cleanser before putting the mixture on again in the morning?
Hope the burning I’m feeling means that it is working.
Thanks Mike
Maureen
Hello Maureen. The Zinc Oxide makes it twice as effective, and hides the odor of the sulfur. It also looks more natural on the face. Use as much Zinc Oxide as you do with the Sulfur. If it burns too much you need to cut it some with BestYet. I have been using Petroleum Jelly instead of SnoSeal for the last week. It seems to work now with the new formula, but the SnoSeal may still be better. You need to rub off the SnoSeal. If it burns too much you may be adding too much PineSol. They (the mites) do hate PineSol. They still bite a little every now and then (not as much as they used to), but I have been noticing a significant drop in mite numbers also. Also, I now have my eyebrows back for the first time in four years! Yes, you do need to shake the mixture before using it. I hope that I have been helpful. I know that this condition is very annoying to say the least. Mike
Hello. I had to go back to using SnoSeal when sleeping. Petroleum Jelly doesn’t seem to work as good on the eyebrows and nose. Mike
Hi Mike
Thanks for all your help. I still need to buy the zinc and add it to the mixture, these blood vessels on my cheeks might need a laser treatment. When i use the mixture on my nose I can breath so well, and there is still redness there, cause i also have seb derma. I sure hope someday soon that Dermatology gets their act together and find something to really kill this off.
Might think about a Hair Max Laser also to use, glad yours is working so well for you.
I see the Derma Dr. on Mon. after using Ivermectin/Permethrin
I’ll see what he thinks.
Thanks Again
~Maureen
Hey Mike,
Sorry just one more thing , can you please tell me whereor who you bought your zinc oxide from on the web?
Thanks Maureen
Hello again Maureen. I really do not know right now, but it came in a plastic bag, and I bought it through ebay. Go to ebay.com and type in Zinc Oxide. Mike
I’m convinced topical Metronidazole works by disrupting Demodex Folliculorum (hair follicle mites).
http://www.rosacea.org/rr/2004/spring/article_2.php
Furthermore, topical Metronidazole will NOT work by disrupting Demodex Brevis (oil gland mites) because it can not penetrate down in to the sebaceous glands that they dwell in.
Demodex Folliculorum (hair follicle mites)
Treatment = topical Metronidazole
Demodex Brevis (old gland mites)
Treatment = systemic Accutane
Treatment for the infections (pimples) caused by the mites dragging and burrowing bacteria commonly found on human skin can be helped by antibiotics. Antibiotics for Rosacea or Acne is just curing the symptom, NOT the cause of the problem. MITES!
These mites become UN-commensal parasites when they reach large numbers. Many things can lead to large numbers (otherwise known as an infestation – weaken immune system due to illness, stress, age, poor diet, etc.
http://skindisease.suite101.com/article.cfm/demodex_spp_face_mites
I forgot to include…
Demodex Folliculorum (hair follicle mites)
Treatment = topical Permethrin
Demodex Brevis (old gland mites) Treatment
= systemic Ivermectin
But good luck finding a Dermatologist who isn’t living in the dark-ages about the link between Demodex mites and Rosacea / Acne.
It blows my mind that the Demodex mites (found on 80-90% of all human beings and the other 10% are infants) are not even illustrated in medical texts:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_skin#Skin_layers
They are leaving out a proven component of human skin! MITES!
1. ANY human that gets close to your face can give you BACK the Demodex mites after Ivermectin dosing. That is why people sometimes get “temporary clearing” then they are right back to their current state after treatment. Treat your partner as well with Ivermectin at the same time. Then 2 weeks later again after the larvae have hatched.
2. All species of animals with Demodex mites (dogs, cats, bunnies, horses, check wikipedia for full listing) can give you BACK Demodex mites. Different then the regular ones you had before. The mite doesn’t know you from your pet.
3. Your immune system needs to be BOOSTED to a better state or else clearing with Ivermectin treatment will be temporary. The mites thrive in a weak immune environment.
4. Use an antibiotic to clear the previous infection(s) caused by the mites.
4. Skin scrapings will NOT show you the infestation / over-run on Demodex Brevis (oil gland mites) only the Demodex Folliculorum (hair follicle mites). And both are the problem. During the day Demodex Folliculorum stay underneath the skin, they only surface at night to breed on top of your skin. And unless you have a 24 hour Dermatologist, they are NOT going to scrape and Demodex on to a slide during the day 9unless you are really infested and over-run.
Treatment Plan
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2 doses of Ivermectin:
- Ivermectin (1st dose)
PLUS 1 dose for your partner no matter if they show signs or not, they may have mites but no allergy to them.
- All pillowcases, sheets, towels, hats, and anything that touches your face, neck and head MUST be washed in HOT water and dried in HOT water to kill mites.
- All items your head and neck come close to should be sanitized (sunglasses, brushes, combs, scarves etc).
- Ivermectin (2nd dose)
2 weeks after initial dose to kill the mites that have hatched in that time.
PLUS 1 dose for your partner no matter if they show signs or not, they may have mites but no allergy to them.
- Again sanitize and hot water sheets, etc.
At the same time as Ivermectin administration…
90 days Permethrin 5% Topical Cream:
- Must be 5%
- Permethrin every night before going to sleep (the mites come out at night to mate on the surface of your skin, and hide in your skin during the day)
PLUS your partner no matter if they show signs or not, they may have mites but no allergy to them.
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NO snuggling face-to-face with ANY animals EVER! Or re-infestation will occur. This goes for your partner as well.
Boost your immune system! Eat healthy (plus supplements), exercise, sleep.
Repeat if necessary to clear skin.
The Ivermectin (Systemic) and Permethrin 5% Cream (Topical) treatment plan works, but it must be done properly!
- Partners must be treated
(the same as a human scabies infestation)
- Animals must be treated
(the same as an animal mange infestation)
- Environment must be treated
(the same as scabies and mange infestations)
- Immune System must be treated
(the same as an infection, the immune system needs to stay string to fight off infection)
Demonex mites die within a few hours after being off of their human host, and human demonex mites will not take to animals. Animals have their own mites, but not human mites. I will probably have these mites for the rest of my life. So I need something that will keep their numbers down, otherwords maintenance. Most people have these mites, but some people with rosacea multiply their numbers to a cronic level due to their chemistry. Lets not go overboard on the cleaning, etc.. What is needed is something that can be used as maintenance, that will keep their numbers down. Ivermectin (RX) and my formula seems to do just that. At least I hope so. Mike
Hello again. There is no way of getting rid of everyone of the human demonex mites that are on your body. It would only take one pregant mite or even one egg left over to restart the process. Even if you did it would not take long for you to re-infect yourself again with these mites from another person. Remember, that most people have these mites, and the reason why we have a problem with these mites exploding in cronic numbers to infect us seriously is because of our body chemistry (most probably our genetics and with our rosacea). So the next best thing is a way of maintenance to keep the numbers down to acceptable levels. Mike
Hey Mike I don’t have rosacea but I do have a condition known as blepharitis. That is where the skin of the eye lids become infected and have similar problems like rosacea. I also heard that rosacea can cause blepharitis as well. I know I dont have rosacea though because i dont have horrible rashes on my face, but I do have my eye lashes falling out, my eye lids are red and inflamed and i get this strange crawling itching sensation where my eye lashes are. I have studied this condition for the past 7 months and have heard everything from borax, to oils, to alcholhols to peroxide…You name it…Now all those harsh chemical’s I know Are never to be used anywhere near the eyes. What I would like to know Does this Petroleum jelly suffocate these demodex I know that would be harmless to my eye balls. Plus what do you think would be best for someone without rosacea to rid themselves of these demodex in their eye lids…and their life?…Something non toxic?…I hear all these things and no where does any person recommend putting such harsh substances on your body…it is unfortunate that I have been blessed with my mother’s hyper sensitive genetics so if i was to do such treatments i could cause real bad problems…What you suggest?…and If that JP guy is there What do you do for demodex in the eye lids?…
I am not telling you what you should do, but I will tell you what I would try. I noticed with myself that one teaspoon of Borax in four onces of boiled water (then cooled) and applied to the eyes via an eye cup works to keep them out of my eyes. I also noticed that my formula used on my face and especially the eyelids does work itself down gradually to my eyelids to where it does not get into the eyes. It is not a cure for all but it does seem to work. I would use this with Ivermectin (RX). Mike
Did I say Borax. NO! I would use one teaspoon of Boric Acid to four onces of water. This is a mixture that my mother gave me years ago for eye infections, and it does work for mites as well. At least for me. Sorry, Mike
Mike
Thanks for all the help.I was just reading Rosas comments about our immune systems. I was told by a Dr. that people with cancer and major illnesses like that have weak immune systems, and people with Rosacea have super hyper ones that is why our skin reacts to everthing that normal people don’t. just like the spring time and trees and grasses are budding I especially have a system that is over reacting,our bodies are in over drive. This is where we need to calm the body, maybe for example strecthing, light excerise,both of these to relieve stress, eating healthing, take good supplements etc. Yes I do agree we need to keep our immune systems strong or calmed. Maybe partners should be treated also even if they don’t react It is a little scary when you think about all of this.And I do like the tea tree oil mixture much better than Permethrin, but then again, I didn’t use that cream every night only tried it once for the 24hrs.
~Maureen
Hello again. Over the last five years I have tried everything out there, and what I am doing seems to be working now. I notice that the mite levels are droping with what I am doing, and that is without the laser. Every now and then I have to treat my hair as well with my formula, because they retreat there to get out of my mixture. I do use SnoSeal at night on my face to keep their activity down while I sleep. My eyebrows are now growing back, and my nose is not disfigured. I no longer have rosacea sores on my cheeks. I am now giving them the one-two punch. I want to see if I can control the mites now without using the Ivermectin (RX). Over the years I have learned not to over-react. It all so draining emotionally, and it keeps going on, and on, and on, all over again and again. I inherited something that keeps fighting, and fighting, and fighting, again and again. Hopefully I can get this thing down to maintenance, to where it will not take much effort to keep this under control. Mike
Hello again. I had to use 99% alcohol for 15 minutes on my eyebrows to kill the entrenched mites that accumulated within the last few weeks. I quess they dug very deep into the skin. That is why I use “Bestyet” in my mixture. I has a skin penetrant, but sometimes not enough, I guess. I am, though, controlling the situation without Ivermectin. Mike
Mike can you please tell us or give links to the exact snoseal product you use (on your face this is ok?) and which best yet (small/large size?). you put these both on your face with no irritation?
thanks
Hello Grace. First, I want to say that I still have problems with demonex mites associated with Rosacea, but as of now I can control them to a certain degree. Normally I buy Snoseal from a shoe store, leather shop, or even a sports store. You can call them before you go there to see if they carry it. I have bought it on ebay. Snoseal is used for leather. It is made of beeswax and a petroleum product to soften it. I use it at night to keep the mite activity down. Nothing else that I have used works as good. None of the products that I use irritates my face with the right mixture. PineSol will burn my face if I use too much, and Treetea Oil will irritate my face some if I use too much. I just add a little more BestYet to the mixture to tone it down. BestYet has a 10% Cedar oil and a 90% penetrant to soak the mixture deep into the skin where it will reach the mites and drive them out, hopefully with my mixture. You can get BestYet at http://www.cedarcide.com or 1-800-842-1464. I bought a whole gallon of it, but you can just buy a few oz. of it to see how it works for you. They sell it in a spray that doesn’t cost too much. Just unscrew the top and pour it out. My formula is: 43% Teatree Oil, 40% BestYet, 5% Sublimed Sulfur, 5% Zinc Oxide, 5 % PineSol, 2% Lavender Oil. It doesn’t have to be exact. All of the rest of these ingredents can be bought on ebay. If the mites entrench themselves in an area where the mixture does not work as good as other times I take 91% alcohol (drug store) on some tissue paper and soak the area for 15 minutes. Any longer and it can lift up the skin! If the mites get into the eyes I mix up one teaspoon of Boric Acid to 4 ounces of boiling water, let it cool, and apply it to the eyes. It works. Also, I am now starting to use Ivermectin (RX) Stromectrol (in US)every six months. Stromectrol is “only” short lived, but it sure does feel good not to have them for a short while! My mixture also works on Rosacea. I really have not had any sores on my cheeks ever since I started using it, and my nose is good as well. I now have full hair on my eyebrows. The doctors do not have it together on this one. Good luck. Mike
Dear Mike,
thanks so much for your generous reply. I’ve seen 10 derms in the states and NON will prescribe the Ivermectin/Stromectol–how did you get it?
Hello Grace. I received my RX prescription through my local doctor. I had to convince him for him to OK it. Mike
Hello all. I found out something last night that really works for those times when we have an “extreme” rosacea outbreak. I don’t know if I should be telling you this since the regimen is very agressive! You see, I had one of those times where for some reason my rosacea desided to go berzerk, I mean like a rocket ship. My face swelled up, my face got very red, and I had pimples all over my face. Even my formula was not working well that day. So I decided to try something new and very agressive that I had never tried before. But I had to think up something before the mites turned those pimples into sores (at least that is what I believe happens). I tried just about everything out there, but there had to be something more. All of a sudden I came up with a brain storm! I never tried Nair hair removal. If it burns up hair it may well burn up mites. I had to be careful not to go crazy with it, because it is agressive and it will remove hair in places where I do not want hair removed. So I did it. I want to say first that it stinks. I tried a little area first, and waited for four minutes. I then washed it off. After that I appled 91% alcohol with boric acid mixed therein to the area. It burns. I mean it really burns! I then did it to the rest of my face. I did a five minute dance after applying the alcohol mixture, but then everything felt good, real good. When I got up in the morning my face was almost back to normal. I don’t advise this for anyone, but I will be aggressive for aggressive onslaughts. It is interesting to note that when I applied the nair I felt nothing, no bitting or movement of the mites. They just died!!! yea. Mike
I did have a slight chemical burn, though. Mike
Mike why don’t you just use ZZ cream, tea tree oil, Borax + peroxide or Permethrin, all well known and effective treatments, to kill demodex?
I have tried all of those things. What I am doing is what works for me. Mike
Hi there,
I have been diagnosed by a dermatologist with servere rosacea. Im 36 years old, female, and never before 34 had any acne / skin problems at all. But the past 2 years of my life have been “hell”.
I have deep red cheecks with red bumps as well as chin area and little on forehead. My right ear is also effected (dry/itchy). I have an extreme dry right eye most days of the week, although only from noon each day. My face is overall very very dry, flaky itchy and in the mornings quite red.
I have tried so many things over the past two years, except for accutane altough I had the script in my hands, I just couldnt take something that is known to dry you out, and Im already sooo dry.
Im tired of docters, homeopaths, optomologist etc experimenting on me.
My journey begins now with all your advice from the previous posts (Ive read them all). Thank you all, especially Mike Marca.
My one hiccup though is my location, South Africa. Most online sites do not want to ship this far, and PayPal is not supported at local banks yet. Amazon.com stopped all shipment to South Africa due to postal theft… sigh… Thus I need to find products that will work the same way for instance BestYet and SnoSeal from Mike’s recipe. This is not an easy task. But so far Ive got 100% Tea Tree Oil (will dilute). And will try with normal Vaseline for a start until I can get around my battle for products.
I have fixed up my right ear I would say 99% with the use of a locally produced lip balm out of pure frustration. Ingredients is Oil of Eucalyptus, camphor, oil of thyme and oil of sassfras. Lip Balm is called Zam-Buk. I have triend this on my cheecks as well, and although it gives me slight relief from the itching and flakiness it doesnt do much for the bumps and redness unfortunately.
Thank you all!
Cindy
One other bad symptom, loss of vision when dry eye sets in around noon each day. But vision will be fine in the morning. And only right eye.
Cindy
I realized a few weeks ago that my loss of eyelashes and my dry eyes were the result of a mite infestation. I had taken a combined antibiotic protocol with Flagyl for something else. When I first started that, for about a week, I smelled bad. I had to change the sheets on my bed daily, or I would itch all night. At the time I didn’t know what caused this.
I still take 3,000 mg of niacin some days to burst infected white blood cells (from the original intracellular infection). I get a miserable niacin flush that is worse on my face, shoulders, and neck, but not under my bra strap. I think the niacin is doing something to the mites. Does anyone have any ideas here?
When I wake up in the night, I don’t turn on a light. I rinse my face with borax water, using my hands as eyecups. I got some melaleuca ericifolia, a milder tea tree oil, and use a Qtip to run it along my eyelids. I didn’t expect this, but I haven’t needed my reading glasses since beginning this.
The past year my scalp was itchy, and at times I could feel the hair move. I have a red rash down my neck. I started using pyrithione shampoo. That stirs up little red bumps along my hairline.
I take Pinesol and borax baths. Who would have thought that would be a beauty treatment? For my all-over moisturizer I use BestYet.
Thanks for the great information.
Also, I have mild rosacea. I put a little green eyeshadow in my mineral foundation. I apply the powder with a cotton ball on my nose and chin. I don’t double dip the cotton ball. I hope with this treatment I will no longer need greenish makeup.
Cindy have you tried antibiotics? (at least to get a grip on the problem)
you could also try demodexsolutions ZZ Cream. it’s helped many
Grace, I have been on antibiotics for 6 months yes. Didnt make any noticable difference. What did help was going for an IPL, but now 8 months since my last one I desparetly need another, so that will be something I need to do every 6 months or so for the rest of my life?
Grace, sorry, also, I would love to try ZZ cream, but are unable to find an online site to purchase it from that will ship to South Africa and not use PayPal as method of purchase…
any ideas on how I could get my hands on ZZ cream anyone?
I would not bother with ZZ cream, it irritates and dries the skin and is not effective enough.
In my experience the most effective medication is Ivermectin 1% (used about once every 3-4 weeks) combined with Benzyl Benzoate 25% (used daily). I like Ivermectin and BB because they do not cause redness or make the skin dry. Not only do you clear very quickly, but you have nice normal skin too.
Another treatment I find very effective is ultraviolet light. Strong summer sun works the best. A UV face tanning lamp is a reasonable backup.
If you want to tell the difference between someone with rosacea and someone with papulopustular rosacea (demodex folliculitis)? Put them in the sun. Rosacea sufferers go red and worsen, papulopustular rosacea sufferers love it and improve == Two different diseases.
Wistar,
After trying the ZZ cream i completely agree–tho’ glad i tried, at least. tell me where do you get the
Benzyl Benzoate 25% ?
thank you.
I have started my own mix of a treatment, based on all the comments above:
I have mixed Tea Tree Oil 100% with C-Ester serum. My mix is not too drying and applies easily without any burning sensation. This I apply every night, leave it on for 10min and then cover it with a locally made Daiper Cream which is made up of Vaseline, Water and Zinc Oxide. (This makes me look like a ghost, but it feels very calming on my skin.)
I have only done this twice now, so its still early days. Maybe I so desperatly want to see this working… but I think I can already see a difference. Especialy re all the little red bumps on my cheeks and chin, they seem a lot less this morning. Just one new big and red pastule on my forehead since yesterday.
I have also applied the TTO and C mix this morning, and covered it with my normal foundation from Dermalogica.
Tomorrow I have an IPL session, have booked this about 3 months ago. I am actually sad about this now, as I would have loved to see the affect of the TTO first, now it will be a combination of the two.
I am also treating myself starting today with Apple Cider Vinegar, a little mixed with water before every meal. Ive “Googled” it, and it just seems like a very good idea for over all health and mostly for me a good ph balance and healthy intestinal bacteria.
I will try to get some Ivermectin from a pharmacy near our home, else if it needs to be on a prescription, it will have to wait for my next Homeopath appointment in July.
Thanks to everybody out there sharing their stories. It really feels like I have been handed a life line again.
Injested oils! Injested oils! Injested oils! I have just found out something that is helping me out considerabily! I noticed it first with frying in olive oil a pound of salmon fillet, and I saw it again days ago when I increased my intake of micro-wave popcorn. What I noticed was an extreme flash-up of Rosacea and demonex mites. On this second flare-up from oils I observed scabs that were impregnated with oils. It is my conclusion now that my body excretes excess oils to my skin, and that it is these oils that produce the bacteria and food that the mites feed upon as well as conditions favorable for more extreme Rosacea. I just stopped eating mocrowave popcorn and have noticed a decrease in both Demonex and Rosacea. I also remember that I started eating micro-wave popcorn around the time my wife and I divorced. That was also the time I started having extreme conditions of Rosacea and started having problems with demonex mites (of which I had isolated in my microscope). Also, years ago my doctor put me on O-Mega fish oil pills. I had problems with this oil as well. I am going to start cutting down my intake of oils (especially palm oil). I will still take my formula which works for me, and put SnoSeal on my face at night. Hopefully, this will take care of my condition before my wife of now comes over here to the US from the Philippines.
Hello again. I must add that I will also use Ivermectin Rx (also called Stromectol) every six months. To get mites out of my eyes when it does happen I use 1 teaspoon Boric Acid to 4 ounces of water. I apply the solution with an eyeglass. My topical mixture can be found in these comments at #289. I use SnoSeal, which is a sticky beeswax mixture, on my face at night to keep the mite activity down when I sleep. If you cannot get SnoSeal try using lipbalm or something sticky like it. Hopefully now I will have this condition under control. Mike
It has been a long time since I posted but I have some rather surprising discoveries to share and am right now feeling the best I have felt in a year!
1) the mites burrow under the first layer of skin leaving ridges that are visible, very similar to the way the ants build ant holes. (A little salt at the openings can be very effective).
2) Windex kills them (ala My Big Fat Greek Wedding) Gus was on to something. I have been adding a little to my Epsom salt baths with very positive results.
3) Xin fumanling creme!! I think this may be the best thing ever but I have not tried everything yet. It is a little pricey, but I think it is worth the cost at twice the price. This creme has surpassed Ivermectum in it’s mite killing effectiveness and it doesn’t smell bad or require a prescription!!
Roger do you bathe in the windex?
have you tried the ZZ cream? it helped me more than any rx. not a cure but certainly a good product. one must find their own “method” of using it though. and stick with it.
Has anyone with Rosasea been tested for any type of Lupus?
I have 5 family members that have been diagnosed with Rosacea with broken veins, redness and tiny bumps on face.
One sister was diagnosed with Lupus and I have Lupus Anticoagulants in my blood. The other 3 refuse to be tested as they say they don’t won’t to know.
I am the only one that has acne like outbreaks but only on the lower sides of my face. My chin has the tiny, tiny bumps on the skin and is covered with broken veins but no broken veins or tiny bumps any other place.
My brother had Rosacea with the red nose which was getting larger, with very heavy broken veins all over his nose and when he had a heart attack and was put on medication he no longer has the redness or broken veins and his skin and nose are normal.
Anyone know why our case is different than most people on this site?
what medication did your brother go on? please share!
it might help others here (and myself).
i tested negative for lupus but have many lupus symptoms. it can take years for a positive ANA test though, which means little in my book if one is suffering from many lupus related diseases regardless.
Hello all. I’m new to this site, and am particularly interested in the demodex theory. I hope the reason for this will become clear as I tell my story…..
I’m 29. As a teenager I suffered with moderate acne (severe enough to require several courses of antibiotics), which often centred on my nose, causing the huge red spots/pustules/papules that would come back to haunt me so terribly years later….
As for many people, my teenage symptoms eased with the passing of time. Although I never had perfect skin and was prone to occasional breakouts, through my late teens & early-mid twenties acne did not play a significant role in my life. How blissful those days were with hindsight!
Then at 26, all of a sudden, literally overnight, I had major skin problems again. Just as when I was a teenager, it was centred on my nose – huge, terrible, sore red spots, pustules and papules, one after another, just days apart. At first I hoped it was a temporary problem – no such luck! To cut a long story short, it’s been three years of misery so far! I’ve taken several courses of doxycycline with some limited success, but it’s far from a full solution, and the doctors I’ve spoken to can’t seem to offer anything any more effective – there’s no way to get rid of it. I won’t elaborate too much on the depression it has caused me as I’m sure any fellow sufferer will be all too familiar with the problems, but in brief I split up with my long term partner and have felt too handicapped by this skin condition to consider finding another. The ‘hopeless’ nature of the problem has even led me to consider taking my own life – I hasten to add that I have never come close to attempting this, nor do I intend to, but the thought has occurred on numerous occasions.
Currently, I’m diagnosed with a mixture of adult acne vulgaris, and acne rosacea, but it’s the rosacea (the terrible reddening of my nose) that is by far the bigger issue to me psychologically. I’ve never suffered with the ‘flushing’ associated with rosacea, just the spots and more recently thread veins, which are only adding to the problem. On a bad day, which can be often, my nose looks so hideous I won’t leave the house. Most other days I require some amount of ‘concealer’ make-up in order to feel able to go out.
Anyway, back to this topic! I discovered this website, and the demodex theory, which immediately interested me. I looked into ways of eliminating the mites from my skin, but was disappointed to find that the options were quite limited – only a few substances are known to kill demodex, some of them not feasible options for use due to toxicity.
Now to backtrack a little. When the problem first started, I racked my brain to think of what might have triggered it off – it started up so suddenly I figured there MUST have been a cause. I cut certain things out of my diet, but nothing had more than limited success. I always had a gut feeling that the fact that I had given up smoking (a ten year, 40 a day habit) was somehow involved. I gave up just a few months before my skin problems started up. I know that sounds a little crazy, and I had no basis for believing that except for this wierd gut feeling. I even considered starting up smoking again just to see! But I never did!
The link came when I found reference to the substances that can kill demodex – one of them was benzene. The same benzene that was present in the smoke of all of those cigarettes I consumed for years – years in which I had no issues with acne rosacea. Is it just a co-incidence that, just a few months after I stopped smoking, and exposing myself to benzene, these symptoms flared? Now, of course I hope it goes without saying, I’m not suggesting smoking or benzene to anyone as a solution! What I’m doing is highlighting the fact that my problems started shortly after I stopped my exposure to a substance proven to kill demodex mites. I know that this is only circumstantial evidence, but to me it reinforces the theory of demodex involvement in my condition. I’d love to hear any comments or advice that anybody could offer.
David M,
You can try Ivermectin paste – 1.87% rubbed on your face. The first time I tried it, I had immediate relief from my ocular symptoms. I kept it up and then phased it out. Then I had another bad eye flare up and ivermectin did nothing. I figured it must not be the mites for me. I went to Super Supplements and bought raw organic honey. I rubbed it all over my eyes making sure to get it into the lashes and margins. I also started washing my face twice to 3 times a day with the honey. No other soaps. I keep putting honey on my eyes and sleeping with it on my eye. I rub it into the rosacea areas of my face and leave it on for a couple hours then rinse it off. My eyes cleared up in 2 days and my face is gradually looking better and better. I also eat a teaspoon or 2 of the honey. Some people swear by manuka honey but I have had good luck with Garden of Life’s raw honey. I recently found a good website called Dancing Bee Acres and they have a combo product I just ordered with raw honey, bee pollen, propinol and royal jelly. All are supposed to be wonderful immunity boosters as well as some sort of natural antibiotics. I also put on an oil of oregano cream called Oreganol that I noticed later has honey in it as well as many soothing ingredients. But be careful, it can sting badly if you are flaring or sensitive. But after the pain subsides, it feels really good.
I would not try a bunch at once. Start with washing with honey and the honey mask. Then add oil of oregano cream. You can also buy oregano pills by the same manufacturer. Also, make sure you use a sunscreen with no chemicals and that has a high zinc level.
Good luck.
Hello David M. At times I have demonex mites get into my eyes. What works for me is a mixture put into the eyes consisting of one teaspoon Boric Acid into four ounces of boiling water (let cool to lukewarm before applying). Hey guys, I found something that works better at night for me on my face! I first put down ZZ cream, and then I put SnoSeal over on top of it. During the day I use my other mixture (#289 this page). I have been putting off using Ivermectin (Rx), because this is working well for now. Actually, since ZZ cream costs so much I mix up my own batch. I found out the ingredents and cooked up some. It works the same. I now have enough to last for many many years. ZZ cream doesn’t work so well otherwise for me (just at night under SnoSeal (especially for the eyebrows). Mike
Tamara, how are you doing now? what products are you using?
and Marc what is the exact sno-seal product you use?
I would like to try the snoseal over the ZZ cream but (given what i’ve read of the ingredients) not sure the sno-seal is safe (unless you use the protech cream?)
thank you both,
Grace
Tamara, how are you doing now? what products are you using?
and Mike what is the exact sno-seal product you use?
I would like to try the snoseal over the ZZ cream but (given what i’ve read of the ingredients) not sure the sno-seal is safe (unless you use the protech cream?)
thank you both,
Grace
Since my last post I’ve seen another dermatologist. He looked at me as if I was mental when I talked about demodex….!
He refused to prescribe me Ivermectin, but he did very reluctantly give me topical permethrin. I haven’t yet used it, as I’m cautious about reacting to it – I’m fearful of making my skin worse with a reaction rather than better. He made it clear that his number one recommendation for me was roaccutane, something else which has potential downsides that scare me.
Can anyone share their experience of topical permethrin, including any reactions? Or roaccutane for that matter?
Also, does ‘UK ANON’ still use this site? I was very interested in your posts from this time last year. I also live in the UK, and have been using the same teatree ointment that you spoke of – I’d love to here how you’re doing now.
Best wishes to everyone here. This is an absolute b*stard of a condition, it’s been life changing for me, and obviously not in a positive way! Any sufferer has my sympathy.
do yourself a favor and try the ZZ Cream by Demodexsolutions. Give it 3 months and don’t stop no matter what. Also read the site’s forums to learn how others have used successfully (what they moisturize with, etc).
I don’t think you’ll be sorry. just don’t quit if it gets bad awhile first. not a cure but helps.
that’s all i’ll say about it.
Hi Janice,
I have heard from some of my neighbors who use niacin for their Cholesterol, but I think he uses the non-flush form which is niacinamide. Also read that high doeses of niacin can damage your liver.
Be careful.
~Maureen
Hi David,
Your story is amazing. Smoking is harmful to us all but how weird is that relationship with Benzene in regards to Rosacea.
Thanks for sharing your story
Maureen
Thanks, Maureen, I’ll be careful. I was taking the high dose niacin on the advice of my doctor for another problem. I would hope a much lower dose of niacin would be effective against mites.
I think I was one of the first to realize that I was infected by mites n the summer of 2004.
I saw a picture and knew right away this was my problem.
Six years or continual treatment has been very positive.
I think, with my method, I kill them on mass with a full assault and then paid a price for them dying in my skin.
Anyway, it depends on how long you have had them and what damage have they caused.
Just previous to my sudden outbreak I looked pretty normal, although my face and hair were changing.
Anyway I lot of dead mite and shit has to come out if they have been there long. I was 38 when I found out and had been probably had them since I was a kid.
All my old scars really flared and a tone of shit came out.
Bottom line:
I no long itch, anywhere,
I no longer has red, runny, watery eyes full of grit (know what the sandman is?),
my face has thinned, I have my cheekbones back,
I have a much thicker and fuller beard. After the dead mites came out it really filled in.
my eyelashes don’t fall out all the time,
my hair is growing back (slowly but it is).
So I say kill em’
Use whatever you can, but know it will be a long time to see good improvement. I struggled for years and only in the past year can I really see the very end of the recovery (remember: the worse you are the more you can recover).
I now use seabuckthorn soap and a tea tree oil creme overnight. SBT oil does work, all you have to do is try it when you are bad with itch (leave for a full 2 minutes and gently scrub with a defoliator) and you can feel that the itch is gone. I will be back when the next ones pop out to mate, but it did kill some.
Anyway, that’s my story.
Dex
that’s all you did Dex? seabuckhorn oil and tea tree cream?
what is the name/brand of the cream, exactly?
did you change your diet or use anything else?
thank you!
Grace,
In the beginning I did everything I could including permitherin. This is why I think I went to far to fast.
You have to be careful not to cause a die off in your skin. It is better to go slow and kill them as they come to the surface to mate. You need to gently exfoliate every time to leave the pore open for the next round to come out. If they cannot get out all the eggs hatch and an eruption will occur.
When I realized I had mites I went online looking for something to kill them. I found FaceDoctor soap and it was available in my local drug store so I used that. It took the itch away, so I knew it worked, but it is expensive and also a Chinese product and I don’t really trust Chinese products so I switched to Seabuckthorn International. They are Canadian and about half the price. I now use their shampoo bar over my whole body and head/hair.
At night I use a Tea Tree Oil skin Creme by Derma E. This has worked well, but remember this will take time.
Hope this helps,
Dex
i just have to speak up here, as one who’s suffered from this disease for 2 years after 34 years of perfect skin. I’ve seen 14 of NYC’s “best” doctors and spent thousands on RX, holistic and over the counter remedies. also spent days and nights researching remedies, diets, “cures”, medicines, etc.
if by the “Chinese cream you don’t trust” you mean ZZ Cream by Demodexsolutions let me tell you: it’s been the ONLY thing that’s helped me get a grip on my condition at all.
but one MUST get through the tough part, which usually takes a few weeks. and must find a way to moisturize while doing so, as it will dry your skin (but so do many treatments). it takes patience and faith.
thank God i had Walter (and another online friend who had used successfully), demodex solution’s superb customer service manager to get me through it. I have never experienced such incredible customer service as Walter provides. seriously.
do yourself a favor and spend the money on the ZZ cream, use it no matter what happens for a month or so (may take less or longer).
I have uber sensitive skin and it did not burn at all. it actually feels nice and cooling. i use at night over the red areas/pimples and on spots during the day.
it’s NOT a cure but the one thing that’s helped me get a grip on this nightmarish condition. at least for now.
but thank you Dex for sharing what’s helped you. I’ll probably try that, too: )
Hello again. My shift changed over the summer. So I was not able to do too much on line. What I am doing is working some #289 this page, enough to keep the mites at bay (to keep my eyebrows, keep the rosacea down, and to keep the mites out of my eyes). I did try Permethrin once and it did not work for me. Mike
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