Just How do you Kill Demodex Mites ?

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#88085 S Lord on January 20, 2012 at 3:49 PM

Hi Tina,

I used to add 1-2 cups of Borax to the bathtub water, but I have changed the routine to 1 cup of Dead Sea Salt. This is so much better for me. I felt drained when i used the borax like it was sucking the nutrients from my bones or something. The Dead Sea salt does the same thing except without the side effects. Try them both and let me know what you think. They are both effective at taking stuff out of your skin. I would love to know your opinion.

Glad the tape is working for you. it seems to be very effective for me.

#88134 Tina on January 21, 2012 at 12:33 AM

Thanks for links, David. You have a nice website with plenty of tips! I have a question. Tina’s remedies states, “It might be a good idea to mix some borax into the castor oil – only a small amount, not enough to be unsightly on your skin.” Do you know how around much borax you are supposed to use in the oil for covering most if the body? A small amount could mean anything? I don’t want to use too much or too little. Same for the mustard remedy you’ve mentioned, how much do you add to oil or lotion if I am covering most of my body with it?

S Lord, thanks, I will look into the borax and dead sea salt and let you know.

#88137 Tina on January 21, 2012 at 1:27 AM

David, in my last comment to you there is a typo. I meant in Linda’s remedies, not Tina’s. You can’t edit on here.

#88165 Mike Marca on January 21, 2012 at 7:18 AM

The mustard powder mixed into Blue Magic does not work for the eyebrows, especially at night. So at night I am using “again” petroleum jelly with my mixture mixed into it (the main ingredients in my mixture are Lemon Grass oil, Tea Tree Oil, and Best Yet oil). I use this for my eyebrows as well as for my nose. The petroleum jelly prevents the mixture from absorbing (thermo-absorbtion) completely into the skin (drying up) before I wake up. Thus, it keeps the mites from getting into these areas before I wake up. Also, I started developing again the crust that the mites develop in my eyebrows. I started again to use plumber’s abrasive cloth to take this skin crust down. I still have at least half of my eyebrows (hair) left. It does work to keep this condition down. I found out throughout the years that if you do not get this skin crust down you cannot get rid of the mites at all in these areas. Mike

#88178 David Bourke on January 21, 2012 at 9:10 AM

@Tina – I’m six feet tall and weigh 160 pounds. I use one measured teaspoon of dry mustard mixed well with an equal amount of COLD water and left to stand for 10 minutes. This is essential because only cold water can act as the catalyst needed to draw out the active killing ingredient from the mustard. Nothing else will do this.

I then mix this well with three US fluid ounces of hydrating body lotion. This gives me enough to do my entire body, top to toe, with a little left over to apply to any minor flare-ups (usually at dusk).

I’ve never used mustard with oil personally but I recommend you try these quantities and see now you get on. If you have a lot left over, you’ll have to decrease the amount of oil. However, please note that if you DO use this with oil, you’ll have to add, say, 1/4 teaspoon of dish soap to emulsify the mix because water and oil don’t mix unless emulsified.

Personally, I’d use the lotion because it’s easier. Mustard contains its own oil anyway – mustard oil – which softens and lubricates the skin, obviating the need for any other oil treatment. I have all sort of oils now sitting unused in my bathroom cabinet since I started the mustard. If you like, you CAN add 10-15 drops of lavender essential oil to your lotion (demodex HATE it) along with five drops of pharmacy-grade glycerine to increase the hydrating time of the mix.

For the borax in castor oil, again I haven’t used this personally. Ted’s topical borax and 1% hydrogen peroxide remedy calls for 1-2 tablespoons of borax powder in half a litre (17 US fluid ounces) of 1% hydrogen peroxide to make a saturated mix which gave me two treatments.

So I would try one measured teaspoon of borax in the quantity of oil required to cover your entire skin and see how you get on. Excess white borax powder will be left on your skin when the oil is absorbed. You can simply brush this off.

Personally, I use Toni’s daily shower with mustard body wash followed by a mustard lotion application. I reapply mustard lotion just before bedtime. I supplement this with Ted’s internal borax in water remedy. After two weeks, my tickles/crawlies numbers are down from almost 2,000 a day to less than 30.

Toni herself just used the mustard and was free of all demodex in six weeks (although I suggest 60 days to ensure all the females are dead). So these are the two regimens I recommend using. The “Other Suggestions” MAY be curative, or they MAY be simply palliative. As I said, I haven’t tested them for the simple reason that I’m using two that are working for me. I put them up so people could try them out if they were afraid to use mustard, borax, or hydrogen peroxide.

Please let us know how you get on.

#88180 David Bourke on January 21, 2012 at 9:36 AM

@Mike Marca – I’m sorry to hear the mustard isn’t working for your eyebrows. I would point out, however, that Toni explicitly states that if mustard is not used according to the exact recipes and regimens she gives, it WILL NOT WORK. She didn’t spend all that time and effort experimenting with all sorts of carriers for nothing.

Mustard powder mixed straight into oil without first preparing it in cold water can never develop the potency it requires to kill demodex. That’s just how dry mustard works.

I’m personally using both the mustard regimens on my own eyebrows and (very carefully) my eyelids (but not my eyelashes), which were all extensively infested. I, too, have lost half of each of my eyebrows. And the mustard is working very well indeed for me for these areas – so well, in fact, that my eyebrows are now slowly starting to grow back.

The petroleum jelly is a very good idea because you can apply it on its own to your eyelashes and eyelids before sleep to mechanically trap any mites in lash follicles that have ambitions to go travelling.

Another correspondent of mine also used his own variations, including mixing mustard straight into Vaseline. It didn’t work for him either.

I follow Toni’s instructions to the letter. It worked for her and it’s working for me.

#88255 Mike Marca on January 22, 2012 at 6:11 AM

Hello David. I am using my own mixture for my eyebrows and nose at night. It does work for that. For the rest of me I am using the mustard powder mixed into Blue Magic Hair Conditioner with TTO. This combination is working somewhat. Mike

#88266 Todd on January 22, 2012 at 8:17 AM

I found this website searching for what could be going on with my skin. I’m pretty sure from symptoms I have demodex or some other biting mite on my skin. I’ve seen many remedies which I will try. I also found some information on BENZYL BENZOATE. I don’t see anything about it on this website. You can get it without a prescription. Does anyone know of it or have any experience using it?

#88275 annerainbow on January 22, 2012 at 11:09 AM

hi todd,

i have used benzyl benzoate when i had sarcoptic mites (also known as scabies – usually caught from animals and totally separate from demodex mites) years ago and it worked well with having a warm bath, then putting it liberally on the entire body (excluding face as sarcoptic mites dont affect the face apparently) and allowing it to dry and not washing it off for 24 hours . i repeated a few days later.

if you are not sure of the mites you have, it may be worth treating as above then embarking on the other treatments.

i haven’t researched BB for demodex. would need to check about cumulative toxicity as you would prob have to use daily for 6 mths. let us know if you do explore it.

my main posts are sept 11, 2011 i think.

thanks david bourke for mustard tip, am trying this but too early to report.

am using zhong zhou’s fro demodexsolutions daily too.

will report in march/april.

#88277 Todd on January 22, 2012 at 11:57 AM

Hi, annerainbow, my symptoms involve my face so I don’t think it’s scabies. How long have you been using zhing zhou from demodexsolutions? Do you think it is doing anything? Does it help with the pimples/acne and or redness to dry them up?

#88280 annerainbow on January 22, 2012 at 12:25 PM

hi todd,

if you go back to my original posts you’ll see that i have had interrupted treatment due to pregnancy, breastfeeding etc.

i found that lyclear (5% permethrin) was very good – its an OTC med in australia but seems to be hard to get hold of in the US. Tea tree oil was a good “holding pattern” treatment whilst pregnant (i think it kept things at bay, but didnt go forwards as quickly with “cure”), Zhong zhou is good i think.

since initially finding both species of demodex when i scraped my skin, i havent re-scraped.

I went from having quite a lot of acne, firm intradermal lumps, lots of small blood vessels and redness predominantly cheeks and chin to now having 1 small papule per 2 weeks (interestingly, more when i change to a new treatment for a little while). The lumps have now totally disappeared and i only have 1x 2mm area of blood vessels on one cheek.

People now don’t realize i have a skin condition whereas it had gotten so bad that little old ladies were commenting on it within a minute of meeting me!

my dream is to be able to have a glass of wine without looking like a tomato – but i wont find out for a while as i am breastfeeding and hence not drinking

good luck, my advice;
1. get a diagnosis – demodex solutions has a “how to” video to scrape your skin and confirm mites.
2. give every treatment at least 2 months before pronouncing it ineffective (unless you have a sensitivity/allergy to it)
3. expect worsening for a month prior to improvement in the form of more papules/pustules that last for a couple of days then settle.
4. treat yourself well beyond clinical resolution – i am thinking of this as a 12month plan now that i am able to use all treatments.
5. let us know how you go!

cheers,

anne

#88281 Todd on January 22, 2012 at 12:47 PM

Anne, did you have any reactions to the 5% permethrin? I will try to find your old posts and thanks for the help.

#88289 annerainbow on January 22, 2012 at 4:29 PM

todd,

no reactions to the 5%permethrin – was actually quite moisturising!

did a test patch behind my ear and waited 24hrs then used quite liberally. had the increase in papules for a while but then good.

thanks for reminding me i need to get some more!

cheers anne

#88290 S Lord on January 22, 2012 at 4:48 PM

I used to get wierd dreams when I used permethrin on my head area. It’s best to keep it to your body and don’t overdo it. It is a chemical.

#88312 David Bourke on January 23, 2012 at 1:05 AM

@Mike Marca – I’ve now spoken at length to Toni about the consequences of non-compliance with her formulas. Here’s what she tells me:

1. Cold water is NOT just a mixing agent for mustard powder – it acts as a catalyst to release the active ingredients. ONLY cold water can do this – not hot water, not oil, not petrolem jelly.

2. If the skin is wet, dry mustard powder alone cannot be applied to it – the lack of control of quantities and uneven spreading means you will blister and burn the skin.

3. If dry mustard is put straight into any oil, the mustard particles are totally encapsulated by it. This means they will never even TOUCH the skin, and since no active ingredients can be released into the oil itself, this has no therapeutic value whatsoever UNLESS the mustard and cold water mix is first emulsified with the oil.

4. Mustard powder mixed straight into petroleum jelly is also encapsulated and can never touch the skin, which means it’s a waste of time. Remember that part of petroleum jelly’s function is to act as a SKIN BARRIER. Home emulsification with detergent/soap doesn’t work for this. Mustard CAN be incorporated into it, but this process must be carried out by a professional compounding chemist.

5. When two active compounds are mixed together, there can be a number of different results:

A. Each may simply cancel out the other’s action.

B. Each may potentiate the other’s action such that the mixture can become dangerous.

C. A new compound may be formed whose chemical action on skin is unknown.

D. It is highly unlikely that the two compounds will remain unchanged since molecular chemistry means that atoms are always seeking to form new bonds with others – that’s how chemistry, and consequently the universe, works.

E. You CAN use mustard treatments while still using other topical substances as long as you keep both applications discrete and well separated in time. I would suggest leaving AT LEAST four hours to allow as much as possible of the mustard’s active ingedients to be absorbed into the skin before using any other topical.

D. The BEST way to use the mustard treatments – and Toni recognises that it DOES take courage – is simply to suspend all other topicals while using it. That way, the results and effects of the mustard will be crystal clear and uncomplicated by the actions of other substances.

If you elect to try this, be assured that your mite population WILL NOT increase. You’ve seen Toni’s video so you know MUSTARD IN WATER kills them on contact. After about a week, small amounts of active engredients will also have penetrated down into the follicles, driving the mites out onto the surface of the skin where they will be killed by the mustard – as long as it is still active, i.e. damp.

Demodex brevis, which inhabit the deeper sebaceous and other glands, will take longer to reach via the skin. Small amounts of mustard will also get into the bloodstream via capillary wall absorption and be delivered direct to these glands as well.

Given time and diligence, with one single mustard body wash shower followed by a mustard body lotion application and supplemented by a pre-bedtime lotion EVERY DAY, you can become free of your infestation. Toni recommends at least six weeks of daily treatments, followed by a simple maintenance protocol. I personally intend to do 60 days, which is the longest recorded lifespan of the female demodex mite. No females, no eggs, no new demodex.

With regard to the future, the main problem with demodex mites is that they cannot digest food – sebum and glandular tissue – without the aid of a fungus which lives in their gut. When this fungus enters your bloodstream, it directly attacks your immune system, clearing the way for further mite population expansion.

We KNOW that borax in the bloodstream not only prevents the mites from laying new eggs, it also kills their intestinal fungus when they ingest it, starving them to death. You can kill any mite gut fungus in your bloodstream by using only 3% food grade hydrogen peroxide in distilled water as your drinking water, supplemented by MSM.

Demodex infestation also acidifies the body by increasing blood sugar levels to create a more comfortable environment for them. This can be countered by drinking 1/4-1/2 teaspoon of baking soda dissolved in a half glass of water 30 minutes after a meal twice a day. You must also reduce your carbohydrate intake because the body converts starch to sugars.

What we DO NOT KNOW at this time is how mustard affects this gut fungus. It is a known powerful fungicide (and bactericide) so there’s not reason it shouldn’t. However, this is currently being investigated by a research chemist. He is also developing a topical deep tissue penetrant using mustard for faster and more efficient mite and egg eradication. When this has been fully tested and pronounced safe, I’ll post here.

This and more detailed information is available here:

http://www.delusionalinsects.com/styled-23/styled-30/index.html

#88314 David Bourke on January 23, 2012 at 1:31 AM

@annerainbow and Todd – Before I discovered the mustard and borax treatments, I came across the Demodex Solutions website. I suffer from generalised demodicosis. This means these mites have infested virtually every hair follicle and sebaceous gland in my body.

I enquired from them via email what quantities of their treatments I would need to buy for a seven-month systemic protocol and how much this would cost. They never replied. But judging by the prices quoted, I would say an arm and a leg (or possibly both legs).

I have since been in contact with a senior and respected member of the rosacea community who’s been a long-time user of ZZ ointment and been informed that it does not cure, but does manage successfully.

Personally, I’m not interested in mere “treatments” or “management” – I want a cure. The topical mustard and internal borax regimes promise to deliver this in two months rather than seven, and at a laughable fraction of the cost. Depending on how well my immune system recovers, I may have to continue with a simple and cheap maintenance system.

But since I drink hydrogen peroxide in distilled water anyway (for osteoporosis and enlarged prostate treatment), I may only have to use MSM supplementally for while.

#88326 Todd on January 23, 2012 at 7:21 AM

David, it seems like from what I’ve read and researched rarely is anyone cured and all these well tried treatments are maintenance to keep the mite population down instead of eliminating once and for all. Everyone is still using some method after months and months or even years of treatments. People plagued with demodex seem to be on a roller coaster. How long have you been using the mustard treatment? I will try it, believe me I hope it works. But, are you really cured because you are still having to use it along with other treatments? From what I’ve read you’ve been on a roller coaster for a long time as well.

#88363 JJ on January 24, 2012 at 5:10 AM

My nice long post just got deleted, so I will make this short. Todd’s last post is another good example of how, with any disease, healing has to take place first and foremost in the body and immune system. Just like with a cold, you can take OTC drugs to stop the runny nose, but until the body is healthy, the cold doesn’t go away.

#88365 David Bourke on January 24, 2012 at 9:14 AM

@Todd – I agree with what you’ve written. To answer your questions:

1. I’ve been using the mustard regimen (daily body wash and two lotion applications) for two weeks and supplementing it with Ted’s internal borax treatment (five days on and two days off). In that time my tickle numbers have dropped from about 1,000 a day to less than 20. As soon as I can find the time, I’ll be adding my own day-by-day treatment diary to the website.

Toni herself was free of all demodex after six weeks of just using the mustard regimen except for her eyelashes (which is where EVERYBODY on the planet has them). We have now added a “Maintenance” page to the website to help deal with this problem.

Before I found Toni and her mustard regimen, I used Ted’s internal borax for 13 straight days. In that time, my tickle numbers dropped from almost 2,000 a day to about 50. However, a mishap involving timed-release mineral and vitamin supplements and hydrogen peroxide injured the lining of my stomach so I had to stop taking the borax for almost three weeks. In that time, the remaining mites bred non-stop and my tickle numbers rose back up to about 1,000 a day.

2. I’m not “cured” yet – but I’ve had a VAST improvement in my condition. The reason I’m also using the internal borax is to attack the mites from both inside and outside. Plus, borax in the bloodstream stops them from laying eggs and kills the fungus in their gut they require to digest food. This digestive fungus, when it enters your bloodstream, directly attacks your immune system.

When Ted has developed and tested the topical deep tissue penetrant version of the mustard protocol, internal borax should no longer be necessary.

3. I’ll be very frank with you about my “roller coaster” experience. Since generalised demodicosis is not recognised as a human disease by medicine, it’s classified as delusional and there is consequently no medical treatment for it except anti-psychotic drugs.

These drugs don’t affect demodex in the slightest – they’re designed solely to alter your brain chemistry (since you’re “psychotic”). And this, along with the dermatologist’s instructions to ignore the tickles since they were “just transient itches,” meant that the mites were able to infest every hair follicle and sebaceous gland in my entire body with absolute impunity.

Consequently, I decided that I now had an incurable disease that tormented me every day for 24 hours a day. So I took steps to ensure that I could end it all quickly, efficiently, and painlessly at a time of my own choosing.

But before I did the deed, I decided to make one last try and built the website. Within a few days, a kind visitor directed me to the Earth Clinic website, where I found Ted’s remedies. A few weeks later, I contacted Toni on seeing some posts she’d made about mustard on another website. When she sent me the “mite kill” video, I knew she had something really powerful that worked and decided to start on it. Since my stomach had also recovered enough to handle borax, I added that to my treatment as well.

So that’s MY “roller coaster” – from the certainty of ending my life to the certainty of reclaiming it.

But please remember one thing – if you DO decide to do the mustard treatments, you must follow Toni’s recipes and instructions EXACTLY. And you must do it DAILY for at least six weeks (but 60 days is my own recommendation to ensure all the females are dead). You must then follow it up with an easy and cheap maintenance routine to prevent reinfestation from the eye areas.

My personal mustard regimen is to take a mustard body-wash shower followed by an application of mustard body lotion before bed. I don’t wash my face the next day because the skin is still damp. I do a second body lotion application at 4-5pm.

I keep some left-over body lotion to touch up skin exposed to the elements (like head and hands because these dry quicker when you’re out and about – and you must keep the mustard damp or it will become inactive).

You’ll find all the information you need on my website:

http://www.delusionalinsects.com

#88374 Todd on January 24, 2012 at 11:42 AM

David, well you give me some hope because from some of the things I’ve read people are plagued with these things forever. I myself have had some scary thoughts as I read what people are going through, the efforts, time taken out,money spent, all the just have these parasites to win. I just can’t imagine having to live with what I am experiencing for life or for an even just an extended period of time. Ted mentions Dmso. Have you or Toni used that ingredient?

#88391 rose on January 24, 2012 at 10:38 PM

Rosacea sufferers have hope! I had a horrible case for many years. Went to 4 different dermatologists, tried almost every remedy mentioned on this website, including prescription medications (both topical and oral), but nothing worked.

Many days I did no go to work due to the condition of my skin. My regular morning cleansing and make-up routine took 1 to 2 hours. I didn’t want to be seen in public. I was so depressed…

Suddenly, my skin was clear! I have no idea which, if any of the remedies I used was THE effective one. But something worked! It took me a while to believe that my Rosacea was cured–I expected to have more breakouts and flushing but it never happened. My skin has been clear for almost 2 years.

Just the other day, I went and had the spider veins on my cheeks lasered away. Now, except for a couple of small scars, all remnants of the condition are gone.

My skin care regimen consists of washing with Neutrogena soap and applying Olay moisturizer. That’s it. I no longer have to wear heavy foundation or spend an hour in front of the mirror getting ready to go out. I use a little powder or bronzer, blush, mascara and lip gloss. I can be ready to go in 5 minutes.

PLEASE HAVE HOPE! At least one of the treatments mentioned on this site worked!
Here is a list of all of the treatments I used:
Ivermectin both by mouth and topically
Three types of antibiotics by mouth
Tea tree oil
Borax
Metrogel
Prescription compound including topical antibiotics and Flagyl (metrogel)

As an aside, I live near the beach and used to enjoy the sun. I still go to the beach but I cover up while there. I don’t use cosmetics or moisturizer that have SPF anything in them because I am afraid those chemicals will have an adverse effect on my skin.

Wishing you all the best.

Rose

#88393 David Bourke on January 24, 2012 at 10:49 PM

@Todd – I’m very happy that my experience has given you hope. I agree that this is an impossible condition to live with and an unknown number of people worldwide systemically infested with demodex or other insects such as collembola and diagnosed as delusional have taken their own lives to escape their 24/7 torture.

As regards the money spent, I personally have a major problem with people making money from the sufferings of others. Why is why Delusional Insects provide our information and assistance FREE. I don’t even ask for donations even though I am living on a subsistence income.

What “solutions” peddlers want is money for substances that may turn out to be simply palliative or managerial – what WE want is simply to help with CURES that are permanent if carried out properly.

From the emails I’ve received from people all over the world, I know that many of them have had no choice but to stop working. Consequently, for them, the money-grabbing behaviour of people like this is extremely cynical, deeply depressing, and frankly inhuman in my opinion. But one thing I am utterly sure of is that God will balance the scales.

Regarding DMSO, it’s one of the ingredients Ted is using to formulate the intra-skin delivery protocol. Neither Toni nor myself have experimented with it because Toni’s seven years of trial and error testing have shown her that EXACT amounts and proportions are vital in finding some that works effectively but SAFELY. That’s why we asked Ted to come on board with his research chemistry expertise.

And since we’re now also dealing with children and toddlers as young as three that have this condition, what Ted devises must also be safe for them as well as adults.

@Everybody interested – I’ve been asked why it’s so important to follow Toni’s recipes and instructions exactly. Here’s an analogy:

Say you make yourself a cup a tea. You then decide that you also like the taste and effects of Coke, so you add some to your tea. You also have a taste for red wine, so you put that it as well. And what the hell, dump in some cocoa powder on top, because that’s pretty yummy too. You then decide that just in case this might give you a stomach-ache, you’ll add some Alka Seltzer. And so on…

What you now have is no longer a cup of tea but a cup of something whose taste or effects you can no longer predict.

Exactly the same goes for Toni’s regimen – start adding extra ingredients or using your own ideas about potential mustard carriers (Toni’s tested most of them) and all bets are off because it is no longer the “cup of tea” that is predictable and known to work.

So now you know.

#88395 David Bourke on January 24, 2012 at 11:36 PM

In the fifth paragraph above, the second sentence should read:

Neither Toni nor myself have experimented with it because Toni’s seven years of trial and error testing have shown her that EXACT amounts and proportions are vital in finding something that works effectively but SAFELY.

#88399 Sophia on January 25, 2012 at 1:09 AM

Rose sounds like a commercial to me. “I use a little powder or bronzer, blush, mascara and lip gloss. I can be ready to go in 5 minutes”.

I have a hard time believe that load of malarky. That is bad karma that will come back to haunt you one day.

#88401 rose on January 25, 2012 at 2:48 AM

Sophia,

Why would you think this is untrue? When I had the symptoms of Rosacea, I felt disfigured and hopeless. Now, I feel as if some good karma has come my way.

I had been so depressed that I considered suicide. I was embarrassed to go out in public. I never made vacation plans because I never knew when I was going to have a flare up. My whole life was work and home.

The dermatologist that performed the laser treatment on my face could not explain why my Rosacea symptoms had subsided.

I posted this because I wanted others who had suffered like me to have hope. Obviously, one or more of the treatments was effective. So, keep trying. You don’t have to suffer with this disfiguring disease your whole life.

I only wish I could pinpoint which treatment was the most effective. I was trying multiple treatments at the same time so I can’t say, “Use this and your symptoms will vanish.”

Sophia, I know that you are suffering and hopeless because I felt the same way. I would advise you to try all of the treatments mentioned in these blogs because that’s what I did.

If you have doubts, please email me at rosedokes@aol.com. Anyone else reading this post feel free to email me also.

I feel so fortunate that the shackels of Rosacea have been broken. I’ve made plans to go to Paris in March–something that I would not have done two years ago.

Rose

#88405 Lei on January 25, 2012 at 5:58 AM

Rose: Where did you find Ivermectin topical cream? I only see some injection forms for animals online. Did you apply the injection liquid to your skin and face?

#88406 rose on January 25, 2012 at 6:18 AM

Lei,

I got a prescription for it from my dermatologist. She was willing to do anything to try to help me.

You can buy the stuff online from India without a prescription, I’ve heard. However, the cost is high and US Customs could intercept it, from what I have heard from others.

Go to a sympathetic dermatologist and get a legal prescription.

Rose

#88427 Supramom on January 25, 2012 at 2:54 PM

Lei,

If you live in the US, you can buy Ivermectin at farm supply stores. I bought the tubes that are for horses to ingest orally and I took it orally. I also bought the liquid that was for injection and used it with cotton balls to swab on my face.

You can also buy these online at farm supply stores. Just remember to look for ivermectin for horses.

#88608 Lei on January 28, 2012 at 7:45 AM

Supramom did you use the injection form full strength on your face and how often? Any reactions?

#88720 Supramom on January 30, 2012 at 11:34 AM

Lei, I did use it full strength by poking a hole in the rubber top and applying it with a cotton ball. I did it twice a day, morning and night. I did not have any bad reactions to it.

But it must be stated that I ended up not having rosacea. In the end, it was discovered that I had a severe allergy to a preservative that is used in almost all liquid soaps, dish soap, liquid laundry softener, baby wipes, hand sanitizer, etc.

My first symptoms presented as papules and pustules and severe redness in the normal rosacea areas. My derm took one look and diagnosed rosacea. It wasn’t until my eyes were itching like mad and the lids were bright red and swelling shut, that I desperately started googling and discovered that most people with my symptoms had some sort of allergy. It turned out I was also allergic to Mica – which was in all my mineral make up, thus adding to the redness and swelling.

I did all this on my own, no doctors came up with even the faintest suggestion that I might have an allergy.

But back to your questions, Ivermectin did not harm me or cause any adverse reactions at all. In fact, it was definitely helping my facial redness and helped a great deal with the itching of my lids.

Good luck to you all.

#88721 Lei on January 30, 2012 at 11:44 AM

Supramom, did you have demodex on your face and if so do you think the Ivermectin got rid of that?

#88722 Supramom on January 30, 2012 at 12:03 PM

Lei, I couldn’t really answer that question. As I said, I was diagnosed by the Dr. simply looking at my face. No tests were run, no scrapings, etc.

I do know that demodex flourish in times of compromised immune systems and problem areas. I would imagine that my demodex population expanded during that time.

I do believe (personally) that Ivermectin will kill off the demodex while it is being used. But I also believe there is an underlying cause of the suppressed or compromised immune system that brings on the demodex issues.

Sorry that I don’t have any clear answers for you. All I can say is that it didn’t cost that much to buy and certainly cost nothing to try it once purchased. But I think I would try the mustard powder remedy first. Sounds less expensive and more designed to follow through on the whole life-cycle of the mite.

#88723 Lei on January 30, 2012 at 12:41 PM

Supramom, I really appreciate all the info/tips you’ve given ,thanks.

#88811 Val on February 1, 2012 at 6:10 AM

I have had terrible breakouts and bad skin my entire life with no relief until i demanded my Doctor give me a few doses of Ivermectin. He prescribe me just 2 3mg tablets and told me to take one first and the next one the following day.

I have an expensive magnification mirror 20x strength and some very needle pointed tweezers used in eye surgery and I was pulling what I thought was just keratin pugs out of my face pores. I know now it was demodex mites because they all looked like copies of each other! I had them in every pore for my entire life.

After just 2 days on Ivermectin by the 3rd day I looked in the mirror and saw nothing clogging my pores any more! I am extremely happy!

I now have cattle injectable that I mix down already for my dogs to their weight and plan on mixing some down for oral use to a 3-6mg strength to see if I can also cure my continuing scalp itch.

#88846 Joanna on February 1, 2012 at 8:40 PM

All of the info here looks incredibly helpful; it is just extremely hard to understand why the medical establishment doesn’t take the Demodex mites seriously.

David – the mustard powder solution really does work. Amazing! I wonder if I have to do 60 days for my whole body? I only have problems on my cheeks and nose, for now….

Is it really a good idea to wear vaseline round the eyes to stop the mites moving around? It is the only place I don’t apply the mustard on my face, for obvious reasons, but presumably one has to treat the whole head too….

It would be great to know if eating the mustard would also impact the mites.

I have been using Turmeric too, to some effect, but I can’t go round with bright yellow patches on my face for too long. However, it can help the skin recuperate when I get heavy handed with the mustard solution. I like the slight burn it gives (when I use too high a dosage – dumb I know) as it feels like victory!!

Anyway, I find drinking turmeric with water (not so nice) or using it in cooking is a boost to the health generally. It has been used in Ayurvedic medicine for skin disorders since time immemorial.

There is also a doctor who advises Rosacea sufferers to cut out lactose; results do not show for 6 months. We Irish are mostly lactose intolerant (so we ‘brew’ lactose and often fructose in our guts – this can lead to alcohol problems too. I gave up lactose and actually find alcohol in any large quantity unappetising now)

Many thanks to you again for this information.

Joanna

#88852 rose on February 2, 2012 at 12:33 AM

Joanna,

The medical establishment does not take this seriously because they don’t see any potential profit in it. Instead of doing research, they put out old products with new names.

“Oracea” is doxycycline, which is an antibiotic that has been around for years. Your doctor prescribes it because he or she has been wined and dined by the drug company salesperson. Thus, you end up paying for a brand name medication vs. generic. I know this much is true because I am an RN and have seen it with my own eyes.

Although not life threatening, Rosacea is a crippling disorder which deserves more attention. However there is hope.

My demodex mites were discovered by a dermatology resident who was doing a consult on my floor. He was in a class at Yale which was being taught by a “progressive” professor who believed that there was a link between the mites and Rosacea. (Apparently, this is controversial.)

This kid did my scrapings and looked at the mites under the microscope. He showed me the slides and my skin was loaded with them. He could not write me a prescription but I found a sympathetic dermatologist who wrote one for permethrin.
I also took Ivermectin by mouth.

My skin did not clear immediately. I was also using other treatments so I don’t know which, if any was effective. However, my skin has been clear for about 2 years.

I am not Irish but I am fair with blue eyes. I’m sure we are prone to this condition. I work with someone who has a terrible, almost the worst case of Rosacea that I have ever seen.

His name is Murphy. Whenever he comes to work, I want to slather stuff on his face! Unfortunately, I don’t know him well enough to ask, “So are you doing anything about your Rosacea?”

I feel so fortunate that I no longer suffer from this condition. However, I live in fear that I’ll have a recurrence.

#88853 David Bourke on February 2, 2012 at 1:02 AM

@Joanna.

Re the medical establishment – the reason dermatology has remained in the Dark Ages when it comes to insect infestation is because of a diagnosis and work-up formulated in 1938 by neurologist Karl Axel Ekbom – Delusional Parasitosis.

Despite the huge advances made by all other branches of medicine, despite the advances in scientific understanding of human body chemistry as it relates to insect lifestyles, despite the advances in understanding multi-organism symbioses, despite the huge sociological changes like global transport of people and goods, this diagnostic dogma has not changed one iota since 1938. Dermatology STILL naively believes that the only insects that can infest humans in the western world are fleas, lice, and scabies.

But in 1955, a research paper by Swedish entomologist Felix Bryk published by the Swedish Medical Association clearly showed that collembola could also infest humans.

http://www.headlice.org/sweden/714-2418-updated-1.pdf

Yet both medicine and entomology deliberately ignored and buried this paper because it didn’t fit with Ekbom’s nonsensical dogma.

To this day, that situation hasn’t changed. In my opinion, this constitutes WILLFUL IGNORANCE that is utterly reprehensible and morally indefensible.

Bear in mind, too, that research is expensive and funding comes from just three main sources – pharmaceutical companies, grant aid by philanthropic institutions, and the taxpayer. Big Pharma isn’t interested in cures – it wants profit-generating treatments. Research funded via the other two methods must undergo peer approval. If it contradicts the dogma of the day, it rarely gets approved to see the light of day.

Re 60 days whole-body treatment – first, you need to understand that demodex mites can and do live anywhere on the body, but mainly on the head. If they come under colony survival pressure there, they can and will attempt to migrate to a more congenial body location. A demodex mite can walk from the scalp of a six-foot tall person almost to the feet while that person sleeps for eight hours.

The trickier problem, however, is your own hand. Because they’re coated in sebaceous oil, if you touch a “tickler” it will adhere to your fingers and “jump off the bus” at the next body location you touch. While this can be prevented with awareness while you’re awake, once you’re asleep all bets are off.

This is why we recommend whole-body treatment – to make every part of your skin inhospitable to these pests and leave them nowhere to go but Mite Heaven. You COULD try creating a “barrier” region on your neck and shoulders. This will prevent the “walkers,” but you’re still left with the problem of your hands (the demodex “bus”) while asleep.

The 60 days recommendation is because this is the longest lifespan for female demodex I’ve found in medical and entomological research. No females, no eggs – no problem. And better to be safe than sorry.

Re the eyes – I’ve found that it IS possible to treat the eyebrows with mustard. A way to do this safely is detailed on the Maintenance page of the website (scroll down to “Maintenance Programs” and see point 1(a). Other safe eyelid and eyelash treatments are also detailed on this page. But, basically, using an eyewash that contains boric acid and also applying it with a cotton bud to the roots of eyelashes and eyelids will work. Before bed, you can also apply Vaseline in the same way to the same locations. This will trap mites as they emerge with ambitions to commute.

Re diet – Toni eats Colman’s daily. I don’t know whether the active ingredient survives the digestive process to enter the bloodstream. But definitely worth a try if you like the taste (I’m not mad on it myself).

I can’t speak to turmeric because I haven’t tried it. But I may well do so now.

I don’t have rosacea but demodicosis. So I’m not sure if foregoing lactose would do me any good. (And I haven’t tasted alcohol since 2004). But here’s a site on lactose-free living you may find interesting:

http://www.telusplanet.net/public/ekende/lactose.htm

I’m so glad the mustard treatment is working for you. Just keep it up! Daily! These insects are chemically extremely hardy (but physically delicate), tenacious, and utterly relentless in parasitic mode. The key is to be more relentless than they are.

#88855 David Bourke on February 2, 2012 at 2:33 AM

I can find no scholarly reference to the following on the web, but I remember reading about it some time ago and it’s just now surfaced in my memory:

In an experiment, anthropologists removed a single monkey from its group and dyed its fur green. When they released the unfortunate animal back to its tribe, they were astonished to see that the other monkeys tore it to shreds.

Because it now deviated from the group norm.

This became known as “Green Monkey Syndrome.”

To my mind, this explains a lot about the group behaviour of doctors, dermatologists, medical researchers, and professional entomologists when it comes to human insect infestations.

A personal observation: when I attended my first (and last) college reunion, I found that it was only the good “book-learners” with excellent memory retention who had chosen medicine as a career.

Uniformly, these guys were without imagination, wit, or intuition, and completely untainted by any appreciation of art, philosophy, or any aspect of human culture.

Those who had these last qualities in abundance chose careers in other fields.

#88862 JJ on February 2, 2012 at 3:48 AM

This article is from “emedicine.medscape.com/article…” and is more about demodex on the **eyelashes** for those of you that are looking for relief. It is written by Manolette R Roque, MD, MBA; Chief Editor: Hampton Roy Sr, MD….

Accumulation of waste material of the follicle mite may occur in affected follicles or sebaceous glands. Electron micrographs of the mite surface and “feces show bacterial, viral, and rickettsial elements.” (probably why our skin becomes infected & plugged).

Demodex species-induced pathologic changes have been implicated in dry eye conditions. … Lid infestation by the Demodex species may or may not accompany dermatologic changes of the nose, the cheek, or the forehead.

“This dermal inflammation manifests itself as a diffuse erythema of the affected areas; scaly, dry skin; and, in certain cases, rosacealike lesions.” The dry skin cycle described by Ayres is initiated when the demodectic mite plugs the follicle and reduces the sebaceous outflow, which leads to scaling as well as rough and dry skin texture.[2] Sebaceous outflow is further reduced when patients inadvertently decide to apply facial cream. **The mite flourishes in this environment of oily additives, leading to an increase in the population of the mites and a continuation of the dry skin cycle.

The TREATMENT regimen is divided into in-office care and at-home care.

In the office, D folliculorum can be lured to the follicle surface with the use of volatile fluids, such as ether (not allowed in the U.S.), brushed vigorously across the external lid margin, following 0.5% proparacaine instillation. Five minutes later, a solution of 70% alcohol is applied in a similar manner. This regimen is reported to successfully reduce both the symptoms and the observed number of mites by the end of 3 weekly visits. Ether and alcohol should be used with caution, and corneal contact should be prevented.

A combination of this in-office treatment with a home regimen is suggested. The home regimen includes scrubbing the eyelids twice daily with baby shampoo diluted with water to yield a 50% dilution and applying an antibiotic ointment at night until resolution of symptoms.
Various treatments have been used to control Demodex mites. Most treatments involve spreading an ointment at the base of the eyelashes at night to trap mites as they emerge from their burrow and/or move from one follicle to another.

Mercury oxide 1% ointment is frequently used.
Pilocarpine gel reduced the number of mites and alleviated the symptom of itching in 11 patients in a nursing home. Celerio et al hypothesized that pilocarpine was directly toxic to the mites because its muscarinic action impedes respiration and motility.[6]

The latest popular treatment regimen includes the use of 50% tea tree oil with Macadamia nut oil, applied with cotton tip applicators, after one drop of tetracaine.[7, 8, 9]

Aggressively debride the lashes and the lash roots first with scrubs. Try to get the oil into the lash roots and along the lashes to kill any eggs. Treat the eyebrows as well. Three applications, 10 minutes apart, per visit are recommended; treatment is completed with compounded 20% tea tree ointment. Repeat for 3 visits, each one week apart.

Home regimen includes the following:
Use tea tree shampoo on hair and eye lashes every day.
Use tea tree soap or face wash every day.
Buy new makeup and discard old makeup; do not use makeup for 1 week.
Clean sheets and buy new pillows.
Check spouse; if both have this problem, both need to be treated.
Check pets.

For the first few weeks, use the ointment at night after tea tree shampoo scrubs.
This is then replaced with a pure antibiotic ointment or with compounded 10% tea tree ointment.

**THE ARTICLE is very long and in different sections, I copied what I thought was most important. It is listed under: Demodicosis

#88863 JJ on February 2, 2012 at 4:00 AM

Joanna,

“Burning” your skin is not a good thing. I burned my skin with a triclosan antibacterial wash and that’s when my rosacea started. When your ph balance and the health of your skin is destroyed, that’s when trouble starts. Your skin is also a reflection of the imbalance with your immune system. I would think if your body remains acidic or not properly ph, the demodex will return.

#88864 Joanna on February 2, 2012 at 4:07 AM

David, Rose, thanks for the feedback.

I totally see the way the land lies with the medical establishment as a whole. It is really scary that we can be diagnosed with some sort of delusion if we so much as address the mite issue with our doctors…..It is so obviously not bacterial in nature though. Rosacea, that is. The nature of the skin lesions resemble parasitic burrowing and nesting. The red swellings tend to migrate around the face too. Bacteria doesn’t behave that way!!

I have a very maveric doctor, but I don’t know how keen she would be to prescribe anti-parasitic meds for me. Doctors do have a Hypocratic oath, all things considered…And no doctor is going to do the amount of background study some of us with these mite infestations do; let’s face it. Excuse the pun.

I had really begun to think I was stuck with Rosacea. But there is hope.

Have you done the 60 day mustard cure David? Have you gotten your hands on anti-parasite meds?

Rose – I was dreaming of making little mustard packets with instructions to hand to people I see around town with Rosacea, ha ha. No discussion, just THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED TO DO!! Perhaps you can slip something similar into your colleague’s bag or is that too weird?

David – do you suggest the mites can get immune to mustard? Hope not. Turmeric is great, but I’m not sure it’s anti-parasitic, and it is quite messy!

I’m going to start eating the mustard.

As a footnote, when morale is low, remember Dr. Barry Marshall, who discovered that stomach ulcers were caused by a bacteria and could be cured with a simple course of antibiotics. The pharmaceuticals panicked and blocked all ways forward for him; they were making millions from ulcer meds. So it took years – and this doctor giving himself an ulcer to prove his theory – before he made a breakthrough and got his work recognised. He went on to win the Nobel Prize.

David – you have been very unlucky. There are great doctors out there; sometimes the search can just be long and totally soul-destroying. I had to get help for my son’s condition, and just had to keep letting off fire crackers everywhere I went until ONE day…..

However, this Delusional Parasitosis is a terrible thing as you so rightly point out. Maybe we should start a petition from Rosacea/DEmodex sufferers?

Does Toni have a website?

Best Jo

#88867 Joanna on February 2, 2012 at 4:43 AM

JJ, thanks I totally agree. I just overdid one small patch of skin because it was tickling so much, and it now looks worse.

I am being careful, as this mustard is strong stuff. …..I’m sorry to hear about your experience JJ! I don’t know what set my Rosacea off……I’ve never really though about it. I think for a long time I didn’t realise it was something that had a name. I was so down with other problems (migraine, nausea, dizziness, weight issues) that I had to self-diagnose it as Candida before getting anywhere by changing my diet. My skin didn’t seem to be the issue. Now it is THE issue.

That there are people who say they have been clear for a long time has really lifted my spirits. Planning a 60 day all-body regime, but it needs a bit of planning.

#88869 Joanna on February 2, 2012 at 4:50 AM

David – here is a doctor I listen to on Youtube on the subject of milk etc.

I figure milk intolerance could lie behind Rosacea/Demodex infestation, given that the Irish have both Rosacea and lactose issues, and thus pancreatic and insulin issues, even if the ‘symptom’ for the skin is the mites going on the rampage. Anyway, this doctor really puts milk issues into perspective. Wow, we’re so far from home…….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HO_9zS-FOQ&feature=BFa&list=FLhjt3HAXPPD6TL1sf75XbEA&lf=mh_lolz

Here is a Rosacea sufferer talking to a Doctor in California who advises a lactose-free diet for Rosaceans. The bacterial fallout in the gut is the problem……according to her. Anyway, the product she has made is based on Turmeric, works for a spectrum of skin issues, and with any luck is colourless!

http://www.psoria-gold.com/RESEARCH.html

#88876 David Bourke on February 2, 2012 at 8:37 AM

@Joanna – I’m now into week 4 of the mustard together with internal borax. And I just discovered tonight that men have many more hair follicles and sebaceous glands than women, so I may have to continue this treatment for 90 days, not 60. Great. I have yet to update the website with this information.

All insects can and do become immune to chemical pesticides. While mustard MAY have a chemical effect, we believe it kills mechanically rather than pesticidally. In other words, it kills the mites and their eggs by burning them physically in just the same way it will burn and blister YOUR skin if you apply too much of it.

Consequently, the mites can never become immune to it or evolve to deal with it.

You can see some recent post-mustard and internal borax regimen images I added to the website to show this here:

http://www.delusionalinsects.com/styled-17/styled-18/photos/index.html

And neither can YOU become immune to it or evolve to deal with it. So please follow Toni’s advice about finding and using the right quantities FOR YOU so that it doesn’t warm your skin. Remember that these mites, although chemically the hardiest insect I’ve ever come across, are members of the arachnid class. Which means they’re as easy to kill mechanically as any tiny spider.

So an amount of mustard which you won’t even feel on your skin will kill them stone dead. As Toni herself says, don’t make the mistake of thinking that more is better.

Remember, you should never feel your skin warming. If you do, the mixture is too strong and you need to dilute it with some more of your carrier.

#88877 David Bourke on February 2, 2012 at 8:59 AM

@Joanna – I forgot to add that the only anti-parasitic medical treatments I’ve ever had were for my scabies – Lyclear Dermal Cream and Derbac M. Neither worked because my scabies mites were pesticide-resistant. Kleen Green cleared them in two weeks.

I was never given anti-parasitics for the demodex problem because I was diagnosed as delusional without any skin scrapings, blood tests, immune system tests, underlying disease tests, thyroid tests, mineral/vitamin deficiency tests, or allergy tests. From dermatology, I received the grand total of a biopsy of a healed old flea bite and a verbal history-taking.

I was tricked into making a reference to crawling sensations by a very clever dermatologist who deliberately feigned not understanding my first two attempts to describe what I felt on my skin (soap bubbles popping and hair-flicking sensations).

Once he had that insect crawling reference, bingo – you’re psychotic, David.

Pure Monty Python.

#88898 Mike Marca on February 2, 2012 at 10:06 PM

I now have my eyebrows back again, and the hair is growing back nicely. Mike

#88899 Mike Marca on February 2, 2012 at 10:13 PM

Hello Joanna. I do not drink milk. So I know that my condition is not from milk. Mike

#88905 JJ on February 3, 2012 at 2:38 AM

Joanna – I’m glad you only did a small patch. It seems to take a second to ruin our skin and forever to fix it!

I posted somewhere that England & Ireland have very hi rates of Rosacea because of the humidity. Fungus infections usually start that way too from too much moisture for jock itch and athletes feet. I’m not so sure that keeping your body moist with mustard lotion is ideal, maybe for people in dry climates, they can get away with it more.

Milk and dairy always seem to be a problem and are listed in the top allergans, mostly because of the antibiotics and hormones that the cows are treated with. That goes for the meat too. It really does promote cancer and problems with the digestive tract. But it’s just one of many allergans, and I think once your body has been overtaken by something like the demodex mite or any infection that your diet is super important, otherwise just like some doctors, you are only partially stopping the problem by treating only the skin.

PIcking up litmus paper to check your ph should be really helpful. Did you know if your urine isn’t clear that you aren’t drinking enough water? Athletes know this. Water also alkalines your body and flushes out impurities. Your body can’t get sick if your properly alkaline. The ph on your face is important too. Not sure what the mustard solution is doing for the skin. It might kill the mite, but if your skin is ph imbalanced, then it will be a breeding ground for more disruption, mites and irritants and disease.

I wish you luck with the mustard solution, and cutting out dairy is always a good thing!

#88907 JJ on February 3, 2012 at 3:01 AM

David B.,

I’m sorry you had such bad luck with doctors, that’s a disgrace to the medical profession, but sometimes it forces us to pursue healthier alternatives, so maybe that’s the upside. (I’ve had bad luck too).

I’ve read some of your website and I really wish you luck on your journey especially with the mustard solution. I really feel tho that you aren’t covering all corners and that’s why your infestation is so severe. If you are still sleeping in a sleeping bag and only shaking it out, I think your are re-infesting yourself. As long as you have been treating yourself, you should be down to zero.

It’s hard to change a diet so radically, but I still think it’s key to treating the problem inside and out. I know you are drinking borax, but if your body is not alkaline and healthy, I think it only kills some and then you start the cycle all over again. I think your environment needs to be changed too. Buy a dehumidifier, something. I know you tried washing all your linens and said that didn’t work; I think that’s only because your body was so infested that it wasn’t enough. It needs to be a complete program covering all aspects of infestation: the body, the skin, your clothes and home, especially your diet, and I don’t know if you exercise to build more oxygen and health in your body. It’s all important, even what kind of water you drink and most guys don’t drink enough.

I feel so bad for you every time I read your posts, I really hope you try more with vit’s and herbs and diet and oxygen therapy with hydrogen peroxide baths and internally. Your sleeping bag can’t be complete cotton and then the skin can’t breathe, so you are creating a perfect environment for all bugs to grow.

I hope this helps, I only mean to help; your’s is one of the worst and longest cases I’ve read about.

#88910 JJ on February 3, 2012 at 3:27 AM

I don’t know how many have suffered from fleas, but this whole demodex thing reminds me of the same thing. I had a very large dog so the fleas had a large “host.” Flea bites made me sick, so keeping the fleas away was very important. They bite us just like they bite animals, and then that’s how animals get infected with worms and then the worms destroy their health & infest on the inside, ours too. Parasites are on the increase in humans.

To get rid of fleas or any bug, a complete program needs to be carried out or the bugs win. The eggs can Not be killed until they hatch, so that’s how they usually reinfest the house and animals. And fleas are everywhere, especially in grass and dirt.

I changed my dog’s bedding Daily, bathed him every week and then used a flea killer spray on his whole body. They still jumped on him, the little black specks wld be in his bedding every day, but I never had an infestation because I left no rock unturned.

The same applies to us but even more so. Too many posters seem to have animals, if you are around them, they need to be de-bugged for demodex mites. Your home needs to be debugged. Dust mites are one of the worst cases of causing lung problems and allergies. I would tear out all carpet if I had the choice. Spraying your carpets and furniture should be a must. Treating your whole body is important. We already know they infest the scalp and all hair follicles if given the time.

The body can not get sick or infested if our immune system is strong, that’s a fact. That’s why some people get colds and other don’t even when exposed to the virus.

The environment of our skin and face has to be “ripe” for the demodex to over populate. Mites are everywhere, they will never be completely erradicated; that’s why it’s so important to fight with our immune systems foremost.

I think our water system is faulty and checking your water for bacteria or at least purifying it, even using drops of iodine is suppose to purify your water. From traveling a lot, I was amazed at how my complexion would improve or change depending on the water and humidity level. My face has never liked humidity.

Meat and sugars make your body acidic, some fruits and most vege’s make your body alkaline, that’s always a good start.

Wishing all of you better success.